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     MF VSAM file access from Linux/Perl - (broomberg) - (4)
         Sweet! -NT - (a6l6e6x)
         oh. my. - (cforde)
         Great, now I'm having visions of the dreaded 'S0C7'... :) -NT - (Meerkat)
         Dude, that is like - AWESOME! - (folkert)
     Gosling - Father of Java - stopped in to speak today - (tuberculosis) - (9)
         ICROFLRPD - (FuManChu)
         I get the impression... - (static) - (6)
             I've always thought the best thing Java brought to the table - (ChrisR) - (3)
                 I don't see why that's good - (tuberculosis) - (2)
                     Innovation - (ChrisR) - (1)
                         Wow - that's really sad if that's the best thing -NT - (tuberculosis)
             One key aspect is the programmer's history.... - (Simon_Jester) - (1)
                 I suppose minimum wage looks good to a slave too -NT - (tuberculosis)
         Just so you know - (jake123)
     Tilting at windmills: classes vs objects - (drewk) - (35)
         Er, no. - (admin) - (14)
             Well ... - (drewk) - (11)
                 They're wrong. - (admin) - (9)
                     I'd say parallel development - (drewk) - (5)
                         I dispute that claim - (tuberculosis) - (1)
                             Exactly. - (mmoffitt)
                         History of PHP in question - (tablizer) - (2)
                             PHP started as less then a scripting language - (JayMehaffey) - (1)
                                 Them 'er fightin' words - (tablizer)
                     I think PHP's upgrades are just practical. - (static) - (2)
                         By "class variables" you mean "static" class variables? -NT - (drewk) - (1)
                             Er, yes. - (static)
                 What to say if someone says that... - (ben_tilly)
             Nit - (dshellman) - (1)
                 Actually, that's not a nit - (admin)
         a class is a type of object - (daemon) - (2)
             It's tables all the way down. :-) - (ChrisR) - (1)
                 ICLRPD (new thread) - (Steve Lowe)
         Very astute observation - (tuberculosis)
         Re: Tilting at windmills: classes vs objects - (systems) - (15)
             I suspected that programming would eventually converge - (Ashton)
             Do you honestly believe that this is from TCL??? - (ben_tilly) - (13)
                 Amen - (broomberg)
                 Re: Do you honestly believe that this is from TCL??? - (systems) - (11)
                     think you had better be a developer - (daemon) - (3)
                         Funny; I was thinking the opposite ;) -NT - (FuManChu) - (2)
                             Ive met lots of developers that have no clue - (daemon)
                             Neither - (broomberg)
                     Let me get this straight - (ben_tilly) - (5)
                         very loud VD (clap clap clap) -NT - (daemon)
                         Then let me elaborate - (systems) - (3)
                             "Systems", you should meet Bryce. Bryce, this is "Systems". -NT - (CRConrad)
                             BTW, "Systems": Lay off the exclamation marks. Have some ... - (CRConrad)
                             You sound like the Rincewind of programming -NT - (ben_tilly)
                     For scripting, TCL is poo. -NT - (pwhysall)
     Concurrency: the race is on - (FuManChu) - (40)
         Interesting, but ... - (Another Scott) - (4)
             I think he's talking to shrinkwrappers - (FuManChu)
             I'd criticize it differently - (ben_tilly) - (2)
                 That's true for servers, less so for workstations - (drewk) - (1)
                     True... - (ben_tilly)
         Favorite quote - (drewk) - (1)
             Speaking of quotes... (new thread) - (folkert)
         Just use databases and transactions. Fixed! -NT - (tablizer) - (32)
             Yes and no... - (Simon_Jester)
             And again, you demonstrate yourself to be wrong - (ben_tilly) - (30)
                 Up with people - (FuManChu) - (24)
                     No connection - (ben_tilly) - (23)
                         Questions - (tablizer) - (22)
                             Don't try to solve the problem - (ben_tilly) - (7)
                                 Dude, you are rude. Grow some people skills - (tablizer) - (4)
                                     This was one of your most hilarious posts ever, Bryce. -NT - (CRConrad) - (2)
                                         I am learning NOT to flame back. Me grow up........I think -NT - (tablizer) - (1)
                                             A: Doubt it. B: Still, YOU calling SOMEONE ELSE rude=>funnee -NT - (CRConrad)
                                     Yes, you did answer something - (ben_tilly)
                                 lock and load - (cforde) - (1)
                                     re: lock and load - (tablizer)
                             Question for you - (drewk) - (13)
                                 All the damn time - (broomberg) - (9)
                                     No hints from the peanut gallery - (drewk) - (8)
                                         Give him the benefit - (broomberg) - (7)
                                             Fairy nuff - (drewk) - (6)
                                                 Barry's right; overnormalization is 1 of Bryce's hobbyhorses -NT - (CRConrad) - (4)
                                                     Huh? What did I over-normalize? -NT - (tablizer) - (3)
                                                         It means the opposite of what you seem to think it does. HTH -NT - (CRConrad) - (2)
                                                             Okay then, what did I UNDER-normalize? - (tablizer) - (1)
                                                                 SIGH... "A hobby-horse" means, something you like to... - (CRConrad)
                                                 Note: in this case it really is a bad idea - (ben_tilly)
                                 Re: Question for you - (tablizer) - (2)
                                     Also called trade-offs. - (static) - (1)
                                         re: Also called trade-offs - (tablizer)
                 Ah yes, the Upperson procedure - (tuberculosis)
                 Guilty until proven innocent? -NT - (tablizer) - (3)
                     No, you said something stupid - (ben_tilly) - (2)
                         You don't seem to disagree anywhere - (tablizer) - (1)
                             I disagree with, "Fixed!" - (ben_tilly)
     Just started working on a JSP/Struts project - (bluke) - (5)
         Struts/JSP is already a few years old. - (Yendor) - (1)
             Unfortunately I don't make these decisions - (bluke)
         I feel your pain. - (mmoffitt)
         Yep, stone aged technology - (tuberculosis)
         In defense... - (Simon_Jester)
     Hey Ben: Perl fork / return value question - (broomberg) - (10)
         Just follow the documentation... - (ben_tilly) - (9)
             Smack! (forehead) -NT - (broomberg)
             Doesn't seem to work - (broomberg) - (7)
                 I think you wanted $kid == $pid, not $kid == -1 - (ben_tilly) - (6)
                     Got it. - (broomberg) - (5)
                         D'oh, I missed the call to sleep in your loop - (ben_tilly) - (4)
                             No prob - (broomberg) - (3)
                                 Got it, but define shortest? - (ben_tilly) - (2)
                                     Yick - (broomberg) - (1)
                                         Sounds reasonable -NT - (ben_tilly)
     Static HTML from database - (Arkadiy) - (19)
         Or VB. - (mmoffitt)
         Prebuilt template system just for you - (FuManChu) - (15)
             Come on. - (Arkadiy) - (14)
                 XSLT? - (altmann) - (3)
                     UGH! He's better off with plain ol C code. - (tuberculosis) - (2)
                         Sorry - (altmann)
                         XSL isn't bad for simple, quick and dirty formatting - (admin)
                 How complex do you want to get? - (admin) - (9)
                     So, what would be a good one for Python? - (Arkadiy) - (8)
                         Sounds like a job for Perl's HTML::Template - (Yendor) - (1)
                             There are a ton of good Perl template modules - (ben_tilly)
                         That's the reason many people would choose Python - (FuManChu) - (5)
                             That's going a bit far... - (admin) - (4)
                                 Meh. I'll meet that halfway - (FuManChu) - (3)
                                     So say it already - (Arkadiy) - (2)
                                         I can't think of any that do *everything* you want - (FuManChu) - (1)
                                             *Sigh* - (Arkadiy)
         Me? :-) - (static) - (1)
             Can't rely on anything in th esrever beyond static pages. -NT - (Arkadiy)
     Why does something this simple, take soo long? - (folkert) - (21)
         Probably at the Access level - (JayMehaffey) - (1)
             Doesn't matter either way. - (folkert)
         Investigate Pass-Through Queries in Access -NT - (altmann) - (1)
             Thanks. I do that later. - (folkert)
         Latency between Access and SQL Server - (ben_tilly) - (2)
             That is just WRONG. - (folkert)
             Sometimes faster just to import the whole table - (ChrisR)
         I would ask for a showplan - (Simon_Jester) - (1)
             There is an osql - (altmann)
         The answer is in the first line of your post -NT - (tuberculosis) - (1)
             Clever, cleaver, thine art. -NT - (folkert)
         Most questions that start, "why does Access......?" - (tablizer) - (9)
             That might change. - (inthane-chan) - (8)
                 Not unless VB is integrated with SQL server - (ben_tilly) - (7)
                     Yeesh! - (inthane-chan) - (4)
                         That trick is actually useful..ugly, but useful -NT - (ben_tilly) - (3)
                             The poor man's Control Tables -NT - (ChrisR) - (2)
                                 That's one thing to use it for -NT - (ben_tilly)
                                 Files systems are not much better. Trees too damned limited -NT - (tablizer)
                     Perish the thought - (ChrisR)
                     "In the Next Version" - (altmann)
     Python 2.4 final is out and has a new subprocess module - (FuManChu) - (8)
         Does it work with eudora2mbox.py? Yes, it does. Grr.... - (Another Scott)
         They need to get rid of the global interpreter lock -NT - (admin) - (6)
             Feel free to submit a patch ;) -NT - (FuManChu) - (2)
                 I don't need to. - (admin) - (1)
                     Multiprocess is indeed the way to go - (FuManChu)
             Does this effect only the C API's? - (ChrisR) - (2)
                 It already does that for a good chunk of C code - (FuManChu) - (1)
                     Not quite. - (admin)
     One line description of data model for Perl - (Arkadiy) - (33)
         Yep, you got it right. - (admin) - (1)
             You're not helping - (Arkadiy)
         Perl: Everything is... - (ChrisR)
         Over simplifying - (broomberg) - (1)
             linquistic versus data personalities - (tablizer)
         To pick up from what Barry said. - (static) - (4)
             No, everything is whatever Barry needs it to be - (Arkadiy) - (3)
                 The logic - (ben_tilly) - (2)
                     Keys... - (Simon_Jester) - (1)
                         Tie is NOT a module (and it sucks) - (ben_tilly)
         Well, Lisp - everything is a list or an atom... - (Simon_Jester) - (18)
             Atonm, list, hash... - (Arkadiy) - (17)
                 References are essentially pointers - (broomberg) - (7)
                     I am not trying to build anything in particular just now - (Arkadiy) - (6)
                         some answers - (cforde) - (5)
                             OK, another arbitrary distinction to remember - (Arkadiy) - (4)
                                 It's easy enough to test... - (Simon_Jester) - (2)
                                     Yes it is easy to test. - (Arkadiy) - (1)
                                         Testing has some disadvantages.... - (Simon_Jester)
                                 It isn't arbitrary - (ben_tilly)
                 References: pointers in languages that don't have pointers -NT - (FuManChu)
                 okay...look at it this way.... - (Simon_Jester)
                 PERL DOES NOT STORE LISTS!!! - (ben_tilly) - (6)
                     OK, in that case, what is (a,b,c) ? - (Arkadiy) - (5)
                         In which context? - (ben_tilly) - (4)
                             In the context of grammar and syntax - (Arkadiy) - (3)
                                 Simple answer: there is no syntactic difference - (ben_tilly) - (2)
                                     OK, I think I get it. - (Arkadiy) - (1)
                                         Yup, sounds like you've got it - (ben_tilly)
         lets try another viewpoint - (daemon)
         Sorry for not responding in this thread earlier - (ben_tilly) - (2)
             No worries. - (Arkadiy) - (1)
                 :-) -NT - (ben_tilly)
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