(new) Theory and Practice of Programming

When does a java constructor execute? - (drewk) - (56) - Jan. 28, 2005, 03:47:08 PM EST

When you say 'new' - (tuberculosis) - (41) - Jan. 28, 2005, 05:08:09 PM EST

Word from the IGM on ziwt says ... I was wrong - (drewk) - (40) - Jan. 28, 2005, 05:14:22 PM EST

I think you've got it - (tuberculosis) - (11) - Jan. 28, 2005, 05:37:00 PM EST

Would be nice to say that in the docs - (drewk) - (10) - Jan. 28, 2005, 06:11:29 PM EST

That's missing for most languages - (tuberculosis) - (6) - Jan. 29, 2005, 02:20:36 AM EST

Like Drew, I'm trying to teach myself Java. - (pwhysall) - (5) - Jan. 29, 2005, 04:09:20 PM EST

"Effective Java" => oxymoron :-) -NT - (ChrisR) - (1) - Jan. 29, 2005, 05:30:47 PM EST

"Microsoft Works" -NT - (drewk) - Jan. 29, 2005, 05:36:57 PM EST

What would he know about it? - (tuberculosis) - (2) - Jan. 29, 2005, 08:10:59 PM EST

That's an oddly visceral response. - (pwhysall) - (1) - Jan. 29, 2005, 08:18:31 PM EST

Symptomatic of general J-headed attitude - (tuberculosis) - Jan. 30, 2005, 01:53:36 AM EST

Re: Would be nice to say that in the docs - (Arkadiy) - (2) - Jan. 29, 2005, 02:05:49 PM EST

That's it exactly - (drewk) - Jan. 29, 2005, 04:25:26 PM EST

I'd give up on Morphic - (tuberculosis) - Jan. 29, 2005, 08:16:16 PM EST

Now I'm getting frustrated (again) - (drewk) - (27) - Jan. 29, 2005, 05:03:28 PM EST

Re: Now I'm getting frustrated (again) - (admin) - (1) - Jan. 29, 2005, 07:11:02 PM EST

Badness - (jake123) - Jan. 29, 2005, 07:49:26 PM EST

Servlets and business logic - (warmachine) - (22) - Jan. 29, 2005, 07:12:42 PM EST

So is this example stupid? - (drewk) - (21) - Jan. 30, 2005, 11:48:02 PM EST

Hell, yeah! - (warmachine) - (1) - Jan. 31, 2005, 07:05:16 PM EST

Re: Hell, yeah! - (admin) - Jan. 31, 2005, 08:00:58 PM EST

Way stupid - (tuberculosis) - (18) - Jan. 31, 2005, 08:25:16 PM EST

Trying to learn The Right Way[tm] - (drewk) - (17) - Jan. 31, 2005, 11:14:41 PM EST

No such way - (tuberculosis) - (16) - Jan. 31, 2005, 11:45:54 PM EST

I need to write a small app like it's a big one - (drewk) - (15) - Feb. 1, 2005, 12:27:48 AM EST

Huh, most people are trying to figure out the opposite - (tuberculosis) - Feb. 1, 2005, 04:18:18 AM EST

This is classic - (ben_tilly) - (13) - Feb. 1, 2005, 02:07:20 PM EST

Um, ... - (mmoffitt) - (1) - Feb. 1, 2005, 03:51:29 PM EST

No. Exceptions exist. But generally, yes. -NT - (ben_tilly) - Feb. 1, 2005, 03:59:27 PM EST

Not exactly - (drewk) - (10) - Feb. 1, 2005, 05:29:27 PM EST

Good luck - (ben_tilly) - Feb. 1, 2005, 08:08:22 PM EST

Ah - so that's what you're trying to do - (tuberculosis) - (8) - Feb. 1, 2005, 08:20:00 PM EST

Time to hit the library - (drewk) - (3) - Feb. 1, 2005, 08:49:09 PM EST

That's an old interview. - (admin) - (2) - Feb. 1, 2005, 08:56:43 PM EST

Gold mine - (drewk) - (1) - Feb. 1, 2005, 10:47:02 PM EST

Moochos grassy arse -NT - (pwhysall) - Feb. 3, 2005, 10:19:28 AM EST

Several copies of Rod's book around here. - (admin) - (3) - Feb. 1, 2005, 08:57:37 PM EST

Q on book. - (mmoffitt) - (2) - Feb. 4, 2005, 12:24:21 PM EST

Rod's book isn't for administrators - (admin) - (1) - Feb. 4, 2005, 12:58:13 PM EST

Ok, thanks. -NT - (mmoffitt) - Feb. 4, 2005, 03:25:24 PM EST

That's not what they are saying - (tuberculosis) - (1) - Jan. 29, 2005, 08:22:52 PM EST

Servlets and page scoped variables. - (warmachine) - Jan. 30, 2005, 07:10:08 AM EST

Re: When does a java constructor execute? - (dshellman) - (13) - Feb. 1, 2005, 09:24:50 AM EST

There is a certain amount of value... - (admin) - (1) - Feb. 1, 2005, 09:29:09 AM EST

I already know that - (drewk) - Feb. 1, 2005, 05:32:59 PM EST

s/Tomcat/Jetty/ - (tuberculosis) - (10) - Feb. 1, 2005, 12:23:31 PM EST

Based on what? - (admin) - (9) - Feb. 1, 2005, 12:55:12 PM EST

Personal experience - (tuberculosis) - (8) - Feb. 1, 2005, 01:32:10 PM EST

A couple of years back, sure. - (admin) - (7) - Feb. 1, 2005, 04:49:46 PM EST

Oh Tomcat 5 - (tuberculosis) - (6) - Feb. 1, 2005, 04:57:38 PM EST

Reminds me of Spolsky's piece on Netscape - (FuManChu) - (5) - Feb. 1, 2005, 11:18:51 PM EST

And I remember disagreeing with it the first time - (ben_tilly) - (4) - Feb. 2, 2005, 01:45:57 AM EST

Makes sense to me. - (Another Scott) - (1) - Feb. 2, 2005, 07:55:37 AM EST

Know what you mean - (tuberculosis) - Feb. 2, 2005, 12:05:04 PM EST

It's a threshold thing - (ChrisR) - (1) - Feb. 2, 2005, 12:22:46 PM EST

And that point is completely true - (ben_tilly) - Feb. 2, 2005, 08:58:01 PM EST

What makes a "real" programming language? - (drewk) - (20) - Jan. 27, 2005, 10:10:34 PM EST

I think he's deluding himself. - (static) - (3) - Jan. 27, 2005, 10:29:27 PM EST

No doubt - (drewk) - (2) - Jan. 27, 2005, 10:30:50 PM EST

An anti-example. - (static) - Jan. 27, 2005, 11:20:17 PM EST

There are plenty - (jake123) - Jan. 28, 2005, 12:25:48 PM EST

You can do that in C# -NT - (altmann) - (1) - Jan. 27, 2005, 10:40:36 PM EST

Perfect :-D -NT - (drewk) - Jan. 27, 2005, 10:42:26 PM EST

That programmer is an idiot - (ben_tilly) - Jan. 27, 2005, 11:27:36 PM EST

You can do that in just about any modern language. - (admin) - (1) - Jan. 27, 2005, 11:52:47 PM EST

No invasion fleet, please! Just nuke it from orbit. -NT - (CRConrad) - Jan. 28, 2005, 03:18:42 AM EST

Fuel on the fire - (FuManChu) - (6) - Jan. 28, 2005, 01:14:08 AM EST

Hey, that's neat! - (static) - (2) - Jan. 30, 2005, 08:32:38 PM EST

It does make extensibility a snap. - (FuManChu) - (1) - Jan. 31, 2005, 02:24:51 AM EST

He was very much in love with doing things "correctly". - (static) - Jan. 31, 2005, 08:02:04 PM EST

Seems surprisingly like javascript - (tuberculosis) - (2) - Jan. 31, 2005, 08:28:48 PM EST

I kinda like JavaScript. - (static) - Jan. 31, 2005, 09:11:18 PM EST

Yup; the name binding and scopes are very similar -NT - (FuManChu) - Jan. 31, 2005, 10:36:00 PM EST

Well, since C often does "declaration only at first use"... - (CRConrad) - Jan. 28, 2005, 03:17:04 AM EST

Counter example - (tuberculosis) - (1) - Jan. 28, 2005, 04:25:00 AM EST

Great suggestion; seconded! -NT - (CRConrad) - Jan. 28, 2005, 08:02:46 AM EST

Sounds like a language holywar brewing over there - (tablizer) - Jan. 28, 2005, 07:16:32 PM EST

Database is excellent IPC mechanism - (tuberculosis) - (2) - Jan. 27, 2005, 09:40:05 AM EST

It's almost the *only* IPC mechanism for PHP ;) - (FuManChu) - Jan. 27, 2005, 11:50:14 AM EST

Never thought of it that way... - (pwhysall) - Jan. 27, 2005, 02:05:35 PM EST

Here's one more for Bryce: - (CRConrad) - (28) - Jan. 25, 2005, 10:46:27 AM EST

CRC error. Too late... already been pointed out. - (folkert) - Jan. 25, 2005, 11:18:26 AM EST

Oh yeah - there's a gem - (tuberculosis) - (13) - Jan. 26, 2005, 12:19:09 AM EST

Yeah, that's the one that struck me the most too. Sheesh! -NT - (CRConrad) - Jan. 26, 2005, 03:50:42 AM EST

That guy needs to be shot. - (static) - (3) - Jan. 26, 2005, 06:44:32 PM EST

factoring frowned on - (tablizer) - (2) - Jan. 27, 2005, 01:32:33 AM EST

You might find this interesting... (new thread) - (Another Scott) - Jan. 27, 2005, 07:43:17 AM EST

ICLRPD (new thread) - (jb4) - Feb. 2, 2005, 07:04:55 PM EST

Divide-and-Conquer - (tablizer) - (3) - Jan. 27, 2005, 01:23:40 AM EST

! - (pwhysall) - (2) - Jan. 27, 2005, 01:25:07 AM EST

For machines, no. For humans, yes. -NT - (tablizer) - Jan. 27, 2005, 01:33:20 AM EST

Database is excellent IPC mechanism (new thread) - (tuberculosis) - Jan. 27, 2005, 09:40:05 AM EST

I e-mailed him about the article - (bluke) - (3) - Jan. 27, 2005, 04:16:43 AM EST

That tells me he has *never* worked with cut-n-paste. -NT - (static) - (2) - Jan. 27, 2005, 06:59:18 AM EST

Sure he did - (broomberg) - (1) - Jan. 27, 2005, 09:30:24 AM EST

Never mind - (broomberg) - Jan. 27, 2005, 09:31:55 AM EST

Damn! - (tablizer) - (6) - Jan. 26, 2005, 04:09:11 PM EST

Go after him. - (admin) - (4) - Jan. 26, 2005, 06:16:44 PM EST

I sent him email asking for citation to be added -NT - (tablizer) - (3) - Jan. 27, 2005, 01:04:35 PM EST

Bah. - (admin) - (2) - Jan. 27, 2005, 01:44:08 PM EST

There's always time to escalate. - (imric) - (1) - Jan. 27, 2005, 02:10:10 PM EST

Update: he denies it - (tablizer) - Jan. 28, 2005, 04:05:43 PM EST

What HE said ^^^ -NT - (imric) - Jan. 26, 2005, 09:32:52 PM EST

32 - (systems) - (3) - Jan. 27, 2005, 03:46:43 AM EST

OT: Tried to locate his books at Amazon - (Arkadiy) - (2) - Jan. 27, 2005, 09:31:18 AM EST

I found 2 of them - (bluke) - (1) - Jan. 27, 2005, 03:28:45 PM EST

I wanted to find all of them... -NT - (Arkadiy) - Jan. 27, 2005, 03:58:25 PM EST

Here is his bio - (bluke) - Jan. 27, 2005, 04:28:43 AM EST

According to the author - (bluke) - Jan. 27, 2005, 07:46:20 AM EST

Seaside gets a new website - (tuberculosis) - (1) - Jan. 20, 2005, 12:23:00 PM EST

Woo! and Yay! and Stuff! - (folkert) - Jan. 20, 2005, 02:13:02 PM EST

Equivalent functionality of PHPsysinfo with python? - (Another Scott) - (2) - Jan. 20, 2005, 09:59:49 AM EST

No PHP experience here, but - (FuManChu) - Jan. 20, 2005, 11:35:09 AM EST

PHP exploits. - (static) - Jan. 20, 2005, 06:34:21 PM EST

Hey look - I'm famous! - (tuberculosis) - (2) - Jan. 19, 2005, 11:03:25 PM EST

Wooo... about time those numbers are bing shown -NT - (folkert) - Jan. 20, 2005, 01:57:07 AM EST

*GRIN* -NT - (imric) - Jan. 20, 2005, 08:23:52 AM EST

MF VSAM file access from Linux/Perl - (broomberg) - (4) - Jan. 19, 2005, 09:26:18 PM EST

Sweet! -NT - (a6l6e6x) - Jan. 19, 2005, 11:29:23 PM EST

oh. my. - (cforde) - Jan. 20, 2005, 02:20:06 AM EST

Great, now I'm having visions of the dreaded 'S0C7'... :) -NT - (Meerkat) - Jan. 20, 2005, 06:08:19 AM EST

Dude, that is like - AWESOME! - (folkert) - Jan. 20, 2005, 10:25:24 AM EST

Gosling - Father of Java - stopped in to speak today - (tuberculosis) - (9) - Jan. 19, 2005, 04:49:39 PM EST

ICROFLRPD - (FuManChu) - Jan. 19, 2005, 04:52:09 PM EST

I get the impression... - (static) - (6) - Jan. 19, 2005, 09:26:02 PM EST

I've always thought the best thing Java brought to the table - (ChrisR) - (3) - Jan. 19, 2005, 09:52:09 PM EST

I don't see why that's good - (tuberculosis) - (2) - Jan. 19, 2005, 10:55:23 PM EST

Innovation - (ChrisR) - (1) - Jan. 19, 2005, 11:44:44 PM EST

Wow - that's really sad if that's the best thing -NT - (tuberculosis) - Jan. 20, 2005, 12:15:52 AM EST

One key aspect is the programmer's history.... - (Simon_Jester) - (1) - Jan. 20, 2005, 01:48:38 PM EST

I suppose minimum wage looks good to a slave too -NT - (tuberculosis) - Jan. 21, 2005, 03:45:36 PM EST

Just so you know - (jake123) - Jan. 22, 2005, 01:21:56 PM EST

Tilting at windmills: classes vs objects - (drewk) - (35) - Jan. 12, 2005, 10:26:04 PM EST

Er, no. - (admin) - (14) - Jan. 12, 2005, 10:35:32 PM EST

Well ... - (drewk) - (11) - Jan. 12, 2005, 10:41:28 PM EST

They're wrong. - (admin) - (9) - Jan. 12, 2005, 10:49:05 PM EST

I'd say parallel development - (drewk) - (5) - Jan. 12, 2005, 10:50:21 PM EST

I dispute that claim - (tuberculosis) - (1) - Jan. 13, 2005, 12:13:16 PM EST

Exactly. - (mmoffitt) - Jan. 26, 2005, 08:51:54 AM EST

History of PHP in question - (tablizer) - (2) - Jan. 15, 2005, 03:57:57 AM EST

PHP started as less then a scripting language - (JayMehaffey) - (1) - Jan. 15, 2005, 08:16:52 PM EST

Them 'er fightin' words - (tablizer) - Jan. 16, 2005, 02:10:29 AM EST

I think PHP's upgrades are just practical. - (static) - (2) - Jan. 13, 2005, 12:15:54 AM EST

By "class variables" you mean "static" class variables? -NT - (drewk) - (1) - Jan. 13, 2005, 12:18:47 AM EST

Er, yes. - (static) - Jan. 13, 2005, 12:39:01 AM EST

What to say if someone says that... - (ben_tilly) - Jan. 13, 2005, 10:43:01 AM EST

Nit - (dshellman) - (1) - Jan. 13, 2005, 10:53:33 AM EST

Actually, that's not a nit - (admin) - Jan. 13, 2005, 10:58:38 AM EST

a class is a type of object - (daemon) - (2) - Jan. 12, 2005, 10:44:44 PM EST

It's tables all the way down. :-) - (ChrisR) - (1) - Jan. 12, 2005, 11:51:51 PM EST

ICLRPD (new thread) - (Steve Lowe) - Jan. 13, 2005, 12:07:45 AM EST

Very astute observation - (tuberculosis) - Jan. 13, 2005, 12:10:32 PM EST

Re: Tilting at windmills: classes vs objects - (systems) - (15) - Jan. 24, 2005, 06:50:48 PM EST

I suspected that programming would eventually converge - (Ashton) - Jan. 25, 2005, 03:04:32 AM EST

Do you honestly believe that this is from TCL??? - (ben_tilly) - (13) - Jan. 25, 2005, 09:21:46 AM EST

Amen - (broomberg) - Jan. 25, 2005, 08:20:59 PM EST

Re: Do you honestly believe that this is from TCL??? - (systems) - (11) - Feb. 2, 2005, 02:55:04 AM EST

think you had better be a developer - (daemon) - (3) - Feb. 2, 2005, 09:07:03 AM EST

Funny; I was thinking the opposite ;) -NT - (FuManChu) - (2) - Feb. 2, 2005, 12:31:27 PM EST

Ive met lots of developers that have no clue - (daemon) - Feb. 2, 2005, 01:25:40 PM EST

Neither - (broomberg) - Feb. 2, 2005, 08:29:41 PM EST

Let me get this straight - (ben_tilly) - (5) - Feb. 2, 2005, 08:48:42 PM EST

very loud VD (clap clap clap) -NT - (daemon) - Feb. 2, 2005, 10:11:52 PM EST

Then let me elaborate - (systems) - (3) - Feb. 3, 2005, 04:55:39 AM EST

"Systems", you should meet Bryce. Bryce, this is "Systems". -NT - (CRConrad) - Feb. 3, 2005, 05:42:13 AM EST

BTW, "Systems": Lay off the exclamation marks. Have some ... - (CRConrad) - Feb. 3, 2005, 05:45:25 AM EST

You sound like the Rincewind of programming -NT - (ben_tilly) - Feb. 3, 2005, 11:20:52 AM EST

For scripting, TCL is poo. -NT - (pwhysall) - Feb. 3, 2005, 10:13:05 AM EST

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