(new) Theory and Practice of Programming

Todd, hope you enjoy this bone - (ben_tilly) - (3) - March 28, 2005, 08:49:30 PM EST

It was great - when it was in Objective C - (tuberculosis) - (2) - March 29, 2005, 01:18:45 AM EST

But ... - (systems) - (1) - March 29, 2005, 01:24:43 PM EST

Language features enable design - (tuberculosis) - March 29, 2005, 02:18:39 PM EST

Pugs: what Perl 6 owes to Haskell - (ben_tilly) - March 25, 2005, 03:41:11 PM EST

Phone numbers and i18n - (Yendor) - (39) - March 25, 2005, 02:07:37 PM EST

Only thing I would question - (jake123) - March 25, 2005, 02:58:50 PM EST

If you want to make your display useful - (Arkadiy) - (3) - March 25, 2005, 03:10:53 PM EST

What else could you store it as? -NT - (drewk) - March 25, 2005, 04:36:43 PM EST

Re: If you want to make your display useful - (Yendor) - (1) - March 25, 2005, 05:25:18 PM EST

Country code, area code, main number, extension -NT - (Arkadiy) - March 25, 2005, 05:58:08 PM EST

Re: Phone numbers and i18n - (JayMehaffey) - (1) - March 25, 2005, 04:33:01 PM EST

Re: Phone numbers and i18n - (Yendor) - March 25, 2005, 05:30:29 PM EST

Basically, you're totally wrong, and your colleague right. - (CRConrad) - (22) - March 25, 2005, 06:22:08 PM EST

American users are helped by it - (drewk) - (17) - March 25, 2005, 08:11:08 PM EST

In Charlotte, and surrounding area,... - (a6l6e6x) - March 25, 2005, 09:04:33 PM EST

No - (tuberculosis) - (15) - March 27, 2005, 09:51:31 PM EST

True, if everything's 10-digit no need for the '1' -NT - (drewk) - March 27, 2005, 09:57:41 PM EST

the leading one is to route to a stp for long distance - (boxley) - (2) - March 27, 2005, 10:10:46 PM EST

I know why its there - (tuberculosis) - (1) - March 27, 2005, 10:50:58 PM EST

duh, forgot about that :-) - (boxley) - March 27, 2005, 10:56:07 PM EST

Here too - (SpiceWare) - March 27, 2005, 11:36:41 PM EST

Well, (probably because I'm a contrarian) - (jb4) - (9) - March 29, 2005, 08:15:39 PM EST

Note on "overlaid" area codes. - (static) - (8) - March 29, 2005, 08:56:50 PM EST

Houston did both - (SpiceWare) - (7) - March 29, 2005, 09:06:36 PM EST

Sounds like they didn't give enough notice. - (static) - (1) - March 29, 2005, 10:35:51 PM EST

wasn't much - (SpiceWare) - March 30, 2005, 10:21:47 AM EST

Re: Houston did both - (JayMehaffey) - March 30, 2005, 08:38:40 AM EST

The reason our "Bell system" will NEVER increase... - (jb4) - (3) - March 30, 2005, 10:45:23 AM EST

rule of 7 is long gone - (SpiceWare) - (2) - March 30, 2005, 11:05:02 AM EST

Yes, of course - (jb4) - (1) - March 30, 2005, 12:07:00 PM EST

I think that rule is slightly faulty anyway. - (static) - March 30, 2005, 11:56:35 PM EST

In A5a, it works like this. - (Another Scott) - (1) - March 25, 2005, 08:30:37 PM EST

wrt Canada - (jake123) - March 28, 2005, 09:01:51 AM EST

Also, a11y. - (pwhysall) - March 26, 2005, 02:37:03 AM EST

That's why you're an international linguist... - (jb4) - March 29, 2005, 08:03:18 PM EST

I've had a little experience storing I18n phone numbers. - (static) - (3) - March 25, 2005, 09:05:08 PM EST

Maybe you have to assume some level of user knowledge - (drewk) - (2) - March 26, 2005, 11:50:25 AM EST

Not to mention, having an International internal phone sys. - (folkert) - March 26, 2005, 03:19:56 PM EST

Definitely. - (static) - March 27, 2005, 02:52:27 AM EST

The only thing you can assume - (tuberculosis) - (4) - March 27, 2005, 09:47:11 PM EST

Have to disagree with that one - (drewk) - (2) - March 27, 2005, 11:11:44 PM EST

It would be a LOT of work - (tuberculosis) - March 27, 2005, 11:31:45 PM EST

No, Todd is right - (tonytib) - March 28, 2005, 10:31:08 AM EST

Re: The only thing you can assume - (JayMehaffey) - March 28, 2005, 11:00:35 AM EST

Comparing Big Lists in Perl - (pwhysall) - (21) - March 21, 2005, 05:04:42 AM EST

I'd probably do something like this - (broomberg) - (20) - March 21, 2005, 08:28:08 AM EST

Thanks - (pwhysall) - (14) - March 21, 2005, 08:35:29 AM EST

ROFL - (admin) - (12) - March 21, 2005, 08:47:30 AM EST

Why rofl? - (pwhysall) - (11) - March 21, 2005, 08:48:06 AM EST

That's not the issue. - (admin) - (10) - March 21, 2005, 08:50:14 AM EST

All of them. You. - (pwhysall) - (3) - March 21, 2005, 09:00:35 AM EST

So, you want EMACS in *Z*? -NT - (folkert) - (2) - March 21, 2005, 09:09:27 AM EST

*I* can't think of a single *valid* objection. -NT - (pwhysall) - March 21, 2005, 09:10:38 AM EST

No, gvim - (broomberg) - March 21, 2005, 10:26:08 AM EST

You're being too lazy - (ben_tilly) - (5) - March 21, 2005, 01:48:04 PM EST

Au contraire - (admin) - (4) - March 21, 2005, 02:44:13 PM EST

You can still leverage the effort though... - (ben_tilly) - (3) - March 21, 2005, 02:56:29 PM EST

"just"... -NT - (admin) - (2) - March 21, 2005, 03:17:53 PM EST

Compared to what you save... - (ben_tilly) - (1) - March 21, 2005, 03:22:15 PM EST

Compared to doing nothing and laughing at Peter... - (admin) - March 21, 2005, 03:25:15 PM EST

Don't forget the pretty print feature as well... - (ChrisR) - March 21, 2005, 02:37:32 PM EST

Here's the whole (working, ugly) program - (pwhysall) - (4) - March 21, 2005, 09:19:51 AM EST

Suggestion - (broomberg) - (2) - March 21, 2005, 10:20:57 AM EST

Thanks. - (pwhysall) - (1) - March 21, 2005, 10:22:34 AM EST

My pleasure - (broomberg) - March 21, 2005, 10:26:55 AM EST

sig_array global bad. - (broomberg) - March 21, 2005, 10:51:23 AM EST

And another question, this time shell - (Arkadiy) - (2) - March 18, 2005, 04:18:37 PM EST

I'd have to write a program... - (ben_tilly) - March 18, 2005, 06:27:29 PM EST

man bash - (broomberg) - March 18, 2005, 07:23:09 PM EST

Another Perl question - (Arkadiy) - (5) - March 18, 2005, 03:01:43 PM EST

There is no good way to do that - (ben_tilly) - (4) - March 18, 2005, 03:08:08 PM EST

What about IO::ALL? - (folkert) - (3) - March 18, 2005, 04:11:23 PM EST

Is that a CPAN module? Update: yes it is - (Arkadiy) - (1) - March 18, 2005, 04:14:57 PM EST

I was reading the description and there are tremendously - (folkert) - March 18, 2005, 04:32:16 PM EST

No - (ben_tilly) - March 18, 2005, 05:38:13 PM EST

Grrr! - (Arkadiy) - (1) - March 18, 2005, 02:48:22 PM EST

That one is a very common complaint - (ben_tilly) - March 18, 2005, 02:57:14 PM EST

Todd, have a question - (daemon) - (4) - March 18, 2005, 01:21:52 PM EST

I can send it this eve - (tuberculosis) - (3) - Aug. 21, 2007, 12:44:51 PM EDT

both, this is a hmm how does that work - (boxley) - (2) - March 18, 2005, 11:55:16 PM EST

I just sent you source code -NT - (tuberculosis) - (1) - Aug. 21, 2007, 12:46:34 PM EDT

thank you sir! -NT - (boxley) - March 19, 2005, 12:33:19 AM EST

Question about exceptions - (drewk) - (31) - March 16, 2005, 04:22:29 PM EST

Lots of discussions about that - (FuManChu) - (6) - March 16, 2005, 04:38:14 PM EST

That only goes for one kind of exceptions! - (CRConrad) - (1) - March 16, 2005, 04:43:24 PM EST

What does the "checked" mean to you? - (FuManChu) - March 16, 2005, 05:55:46 PM EST

But he's saying that you should use both - (drewk) - (3) - March 16, 2005, 05:18:00 PM EST

My rule of thumb is, - (Arkadiy) - March 16, 2005, 05:40:27 PM EST

Pick one and stick with it. - (admin) - March 16, 2005, 06:04:02 PM EST

You can do both (or more accurately: either) with or without - (FuManChu) - March 16, 2005, 06:05:51 PM EST

Re: Question about exceptions - (JimWeirich) - (23) - March 16, 2005, 07:35:00 PM EST

Nice point about responsibility, but grey areas abound - (FuManChu) - (11) - March 16, 2005, 07:46:02 PM EST

Re: Nice point about responsibility, but grey areas abound - (JimWeirich) - (10) - March 17, 2005, 03:30:15 PM EST

No, we don't - (drewk) - (9) - March 17, 2005, 05:25:32 PM EST

The difference is simple - (ben_tilly) - (8) - March 17, 2005, 05:57:25 PM EST

Problem with that - (drewk) - (4) - March 17, 2005, 06:13:50 PM EST

See? Whether it is an error IS ambiguous! -NT - (ben_tilly) - (2) - March 17, 2005, 06:19:06 PM EST

I think I know what to do then - (drewk) - (1) - March 17, 2005, 06:28:16 PM EST

Exactly -NT - (ben_tilly) - March 17, 2005, 06:59:56 PM EST

Re: Problem with that - (JimWeirich) - March 17, 2005, 11:59:18 PM EST

Thats the sort of logic that makes me wary of exceptions. - (static) - (2) - March 17, 2005, 08:18:40 PM EST

Exceptions are one form of Continuation - (ChrisR) - (1) - March 17, 2005, 10:33:45 PM EST

Icon's generators rely on the failure model. - (static) - March 18, 2005, 01:24:49 AM EST

Disabling assertions - (ChrisR) - (3) - March 16, 2005, 07:52:17 PM EST

That's one of the points he raised - (drewk) - (2) - March 16, 2005, 08:59:04 PM EST

Expense is relative - (ChrisR) - March 16, 2005, 11:52:33 PM EST

Re: That's one of the points he raised - (JayMehaffey) - March 17, 2005, 08:31:12 AM EST

DbC? -NT - (drewk) - (6) - March 16, 2005, 09:32:24 PM EST

Design by Contract - (Yendor) - (5) - March 16, 2005, 10:05:14 PM EST

Not the same thing. - (admin) - (4) - March 16, 2005, 10:31:01 PM EST

That's not strictly Eiffel; - (jake123) - (3) - March 17, 2005, 05:31:51 PM EST

It's built into Eiffel - (admin) - March 17, 2005, 06:01:57 PM EST

It is DESIGN by Contract after all - (JimWeirich) - (1) - March 17, 2005, 11:48:41 PM EST

As you say - (jake123) - March 19, 2005, 03:09:19 AM EST

AJAX programming - (admin) - (21) - March 16, 2005, 09:06:39 AM EST

Its the wave of the future - (tuberculosis) - (13) - Aug. 21, 2007, 06:39:34 AM EDT

If that's the case... - (admin) - (10) - March 16, 2005, 11:42:11 AM EST

FOSS? - (tuberculosis) - (8) - Aug. 21, 2007, 06:41:05 AM EDT

Thanks. -NT - (admin) - March 16, 2005, 02:19:34 PM EST

Just started using the calendar widget - very nice -NT - (SpiceWare) - (6) - Oct. 16, 2005, 09:40:47 PM EDT

Lots of new JS toolkits have come out - (tuberculosis) - (5) - Oct. 19, 2005, 12:38:21 PM EDT

Sheesh. - (admin) - (2) - Oct. 18, 2005, 07:05:41 PM EDT

Go to demos - (broomberg) - (1) - Oct. 18, 2005, 10:47:38 PM EDT

Didn't see that link anywhere... -NT - (admin) - Oct. 18, 2005, 11:03:20 PM EDT

Seems it's "script.aculo.us", not "script.acul.ous". HTH! -NT - (CRConrad) - (1) - Oct. 19, 2005, 03:45:01 AM EDT

Thx - Fixed -NT - (tuberculosis) - Oct. 19, 2005, 12:39:01 PM EDT

Re: If that's the case... - (johnu) - March 16, 2005, 01:30:39 PM EST

Holy-- You-- Son of a Blanchard - (FuManChu) - (1) - March 16, 2005, 11:46:24 AM EST

I have plenty of dull projects too - (tuberculosis) - Aug. 21, 2007, 12:39:47 PM EDT

Too bad Ajah isn't a Greek hero - (FuManChu) - (3) - March 16, 2005, 11:44:45 AM EST

Same question to you then: - (admin) - (2) - March 16, 2005, 11:46:43 AM EST

Yes, but I haven't used any so can't recommend one - (FuManChu) - (1) - March 16, 2005, 11:51:45 AM EST

Thanks. -NT - (admin) - March 16, 2005, 11:57:29 AM EST

The quirksmode guy has an interesting take on it. - (static) - March 16, 2005, 09:55:48 PM EST

Another article on AJAX. - (mmoffitt) - (1) - March 17, 2005, 09:20:27 AM EST

Microsoft misses the boat. Again. - (ben_tilly) - March 17, 2005, 11:47:55 AM EST

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