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     Concurrency: the race is on - (FuManChu) - (40)
         Interesting, but ... - (Another Scott) - (4)
             I think he's talking to shrinkwrappers - (FuManChu)
             I'd criticize it differently - (ben_tilly) - (2)
                 That's true for servers, less so for workstations - (drewk) - (1)
                     True... - (ben_tilly)
         Favorite quote - (drewk) - (1)
             Speaking of quotes... (new thread) - (folkert)
         Just use databases and transactions. Fixed! -NT - (tablizer) - (32)
             Yes and no... - (Simon_Jester)
             And again, you demonstrate yourself to be wrong - (ben_tilly) - (30)
                 Up with people - (FuManChu) - (24)
                     No connection - (ben_tilly) - (23)
                         Questions - (tablizer) - (22)
                             Don't try to solve the problem - (ben_tilly) - (7)
                                 Dude, you are rude. Grow some people skills - (tablizer) - (4)
                                     This was one of your most hilarious posts ever, Bryce. -NT - (CRConrad) - (2)
                                         I am learning NOT to flame back. Me grow up........I think -NT - (tablizer) - (1)
                                             A: Doubt it. B: Still, YOU calling SOMEONE ELSE rude=>funnee -NT - (CRConrad)
                                     Yes, you did answer something - (ben_tilly)
                                 lock and load - (cforde) - (1)
                                     re: lock and load - (tablizer)
                             Question for you - (drewk) - (13)
                                 All the damn time - (broomberg) - (9)
                                     No hints from the peanut gallery - (drewk) - (8)
                                         Give him the benefit - (broomberg) - (7)
                                             Fairy nuff - (drewk) - (6)
                                                 Barry's right; overnormalization is 1 of Bryce's hobbyhorses -NT - (CRConrad) - (4)
                                                     Huh? What did I over-normalize? -NT - (tablizer) - (3)
                                                         It means the opposite of what you seem to think it does. HTH -NT - (CRConrad) - (2)
                                                             Okay then, what did I UNDER-normalize? - (tablizer) - (1)
                                                                 SIGH... "A hobby-horse" means, something you like to... - (CRConrad)
                                                 Note: in this case it really is a bad idea - (ben_tilly)
                                 Re: Question for you - (tablizer) - (2)
                                     Also called trade-offs. - (static) - (1)
                                         re: Also called trade-offs - (tablizer)
                 Ah yes, the Upperson procedure - (tuberculosis)
                 Guilty until proven innocent? -NT - (tablizer) - (3)
                     No, you said something stupid - (ben_tilly) - (2)
                         You don't seem to disagree anywhere - (tablizer) - (1)
                             I disagree with, "Fixed!" - (ben_tilly)
     Just started working on a JSP/Struts project - (bluke) - (5)
         Struts/JSP is already a few years old. - (Yendor) - (1)
             Unfortunately I don't make these decisions - (bluke)
         I feel your pain. - (mmoffitt)
         Yep, stone aged technology - (tuberculosis)
         In defense... - (Simon_Jester)
     Hey Ben: Perl fork / return value question - (broomberg) - (10)
         Just follow the documentation... - (ben_tilly) - (9)
             Smack! (forehead) -NT - (broomberg)
             Doesn't seem to work - (broomberg) - (7)
                 I think you wanted $kid == $pid, not $kid == -1 - (ben_tilly) - (6)
                     Got it. - (broomberg) - (5)
                         D'oh, I missed the call to sleep in your loop - (ben_tilly) - (4)
                             No prob - (broomberg) - (3)
                                 Got it, but define shortest? - (ben_tilly) - (2)
                                     Yick - (broomberg) - (1)
                                         Sounds reasonable -NT - (ben_tilly)
     Static HTML from database - (Arkadiy) - (19)
         Or VB. - (mmoffitt)
         Prebuilt template system just for you - (FuManChu) - (15)
             Come on. - (Arkadiy) - (14)
                 XSLT? - (altmann) - (3)
                     UGH! He's better off with plain ol C code. - (tuberculosis) - (2)
                         Sorry - (altmann)
                         XSL isn't bad for simple, quick and dirty formatting - (admin)
                 How complex do you want to get? - (admin) - (9)
                     So, what would be a good one for Python? - (Arkadiy) - (8)
                         Sounds like a job for Perl's HTML::Template - (Yendor) - (1)
                             There are a ton of good Perl template modules - (ben_tilly)
                         That's the reason many people would choose Python - (FuManChu) - (5)
                             That's going a bit far... - (admin) - (4)
                                 Meh. I'll meet that halfway - (FuManChu) - (3)
                                     So say it already - (Arkadiy) - (2)
                                         I can't think of any that do *everything* you want - (FuManChu) - (1)
                                             *Sigh* - (Arkadiy)
         Me? :-) - (static) - (1)
             Can't rely on anything in th esrever beyond static pages. -NT - (Arkadiy)
     Why does something this simple, take soo long? - (folkert) - (21)
         Probably at the Access level - (JayMehaffey) - (1)
             Doesn't matter either way. - (folkert)
         Investigate Pass-Through Queries in Access -NT - (altmann) - (1)
             Thanks. I do that later. - (folkert)
         Latency between Access and SQL Server - (ben_tilly) - (2)
             That is just WRONG. - (folkert)
             Sometimes faster just to import the whole table - (ChrisR)
         I would ask for a showplan - (Simon_Jester) - (1)
             There is an osql - (altmann)
         The answer is in the first line of your post -NT - (tuberculosis) - (1)
             Clever, cleaver, thine art. -NT - (folkert)
         Most questions that start, "why does Access......?" - (tablizer) - (9)
             That might change. - (inthane-chan) - (8)
                 Not unless VB is integrated with SQL server - (ben_tilly) - (7)
                     Yeesh! - (inthane-chan) - (4)
                         That trick is actually useful..ugly, but useful -NT - (ben_tilly) - (3)
                             The poor man's Control Tables -NT - (ChrisR) - (2)
                                 That's one thing to use it for -NT - (ben_tilly)
                                 Files systems are not much better. Trees too damned limited -NT - (tablizer)
                     Perish the thought - (ChrisR)
                     "In the Next Version" - (altmann)
     Python 2.4 final is out and has a new subprocess module - (FuManChu) - (8)
         Does it work with eudora2mbox.py? Yes, it does. Grr.... - (Another Scott)
         They need to get rid of the global interpreter lock -NT - (admin) - (6)
             Feel free to submit a patch ;) -NT - (FuManChu) - (2)
                 I don't need to. - (admin) - (1)
                     Multiprocess is indeed the way to go - (FuManChu)
             Does this effect only the C API's? - (ChrisR) - (2)
                 It already does that for a good chunk of C code - (FuManChu) - (1)
                     Not quite. - (admin)
     One line description of data model for Perl - (Arkadiy) - (33)
         Yep, you got it right. - (admin) - (1)
             You're not helping - (Arkadiy)
         Perl: Everything is... - (ChrisR)
         Over simplifying - (broomberg) - (1)
             linquistic versus data personalities - (tablizer)
         To pick up from what Barry said. - (static) - (4)
             No, everything is whatever Barry needs it to be - (Arkadiy) - (3)
                 The logic - (ben_tilly) - (2)
                     Keys... - (Simon_Jester) - (1)
                         Tie is NOT a module (and it sucks) - (ben_tilly)
         Well, Lisp - everything is a list or an atom... - (Simon_Jester) - (18)
             Atonm, list, hash... - (Arkadiy) - (17)
                 References are essentially pointers - (broomberg) - (7)
                     I am not trying to build anything in particular just now - (Arkadiy) - (6)
                         some answers - (cforde) - (5)
                             OK, another arbitrary distinction to remember - (Arkadiy) - (4)
                                 It's easy enough to test... - (Simon_Jester) - (2)
                                     Yes it is easy to test. - (Arkadiy) - (1)
                                         Testing has some disadvantages.... - (Simon_Jester)
                                 It isn't arbitrary - (ben_tilly)
                 References: pointers in languages that don't have pointers -NT - (FuManChu)
                 okay...look at it this way.... - (Simon_Jester)
                 PERL DOES NOT STORE LISTS!!! - (ben_tilly) - (6)
                     OK, in that case, what is (a,b,c) ? - (Arkadiy) - (5)
                         In which context? - (ben_tilly) - (4)
                             In the context of grammar and syntax - (Arkadiy) - (3)
                                 Simple answer: there is no syntactic difference - (ben_tilly) - (2)
                                     OK, I think I get it. - (Arkadiy) - (1)
                                         Yup, sounds like you've got it - (ben_tilly)
         lets try another viewpoint - (daemon)
         Sorry for not responding in this thread earlier - (ben_tilly) - (2)
             No worries. - (Arkadiy) - (1)
                 :-) -NT - (ben_tilly)
     OH NOES - (pwhysall) - (6)
         Wow, the balls of some people - (jake123)
         While this is just a practical joke now - (Arkadiy)
         Gotta be a joke, - (jb4) - (1)
             It is NOT. Microsoft has pursued this. Reported Groklaw -NT - (folkert)
         Trying to bulk up the portfolio of doom - (JayMehaffey)
         There is a vast amount of prior art - (tuberculosis)
     Finding decent programmers - (tuberculosis) - (56)
         well.. - (deSitter)
         Not surprising. - (admin) - (35)
             Don't agree - (tuberculosis) - (34)
                 Hire Jake - (deSitter)
                 Re: Don't agree - (admin) - (22)
                     Oh yeah - we want one scripting language - (tuberculosis) - (21)
                         Please don't ask the one about the manhole covers. :-/ - (Another Scott) - (1)
                             Otherwise known as... - (admin)
                         Shell scripting isn't the same thing at all. - (admin) - (9)
                             I said it was rhetorical - (tuberculosis) - (1)
                                 Don't you mean, "rederickal"? - (admin)
                             Admin, I'd like a copy of the CD or the ISO. -NT - (folkert) - (6)
                                 I'll throw a copy up on my site. - (admin) - (5)
                                     I wonder if that CD would be good as a VMWare image - (tonytib)
                                     When ever. Its a *NOT* short term thing. -NT - (folkert)
                                     Re: I'll throw a copy up on my site. - (admin) - (2)
                                         Interesting. - (folkert) - (1)
                                             Enjoy. -NT - (admin)
                         Potentially sparse? I don't think so... - (ben_tilly) - (6)
                             I took the ones that start with 0 into account. - (admin) - (2)
                                 I was referring to the step where you... - (ben_tilly) - (1)
                                     Ah, gotcha. Good point. -NT - (admin)
                             For various values of "sparse" - (tuberculosis) - (1)
                                 Unless you have a lot of knowledge... - (ben_tilly)
                             Re: social security numbers can start with 0 - (a6l6e6x)
                         Re: Oh yeah - we want one scripting language - (ubernostrum) - (1)
                             IRLRPD. (new thread) - (Another Scott)
                 NEED to be fixed or MAY need to be fixed? - (ben_tilly) - (1)
                     MAY - (tuberculosis)
                 you dont sell fish anymore, who cares if its fresh? - (daemon)
                 Reversing words is trickier than chars - (Arkadiy) - (6)
                     read the post above yours :-) - (daemon)
                     You're missing an obvious and good solution - (tuberculosis) - (4)
                         ohhh - (Arkadiy)
                         An obvious but NOT necessarily good solution - (ben_tilly) - (2)
                             It gives the results I expect - (tuberculosis) - (1)
                                 I was assuming... - (ben_tilly)
         Well it helps if you learn to spell it - (ben_tilly) - (10)
             I think you'd pass - (tuberculosis) - (9)
                 RemoveSpaces - (Arkadiy)
                 I might pass at that... - (ben_tilly) - (7)
                     Wife's-pathology interviews? >:-) -NT - (Another Scott) - (3)
                         Yes, she'll be a pathological expert -NT - (ben_tilly) - (2)
                             wow! goatrope her into a trip east - (daemon) - (1)
                                 That's up to her - (ben_tilly)
                     If you do decide to come here - (tuberculosis) - (2)
                         Get yourself enough iwetheyers in your dept... - (FuManChu) - (1)
                             Imagine what PARC might have done - (tuberculosis)
         I can answer all those questions. - (jake123) - (3)
             When can you get here? - (tuberculosis) - (2)
                 YEAH! -NT - (deSitter)
                 Ooh yeah - IWETHEY-West, here we come! -NT - (inthane-chan)
         I could take a stab... - (Arkadiy)
         Almost contradictory requests - (tablizer) - (1)
             Not true - (broomberg)
         There seems to be a problem in CS education - (ubernostrum)
     Time for good anti-OO battle to take minds off of election - (tablizer) - (77)
         Sorry cant go there - (daemon) - (32)
             How is being locked to a DB more evil than being locked to - (tablizer) - (31)
                 It's best to fit the tool to the job - (FuManChu) - (30)
                     Thanks for that ... +5 insightful - (drewk) - (6)
                         For various definitions of "start" ;) - (FuManChu)
                         On writing the "little language thing ..." - (systems) - (4)
                             Suggestion - (ben_tilly)
                             "Little Language" definition, components - (FuManChu) - (2)
                                 On what makes it easy to do little languages. - (JimWeirich) - (1)
                                     Good point. - (FuManChu)
                     Orthogonal to DB usage - (tablizer) - (22)
                         That's actually a good idea - (drewk) - (17)
                             *Snork* beat me to it :) -NT - (FuManChu)
                             Cure worse than the medicine. - (tablizer) - (15)
                                 "tends to bloat up code" - (admin) - (14)
                                     Your "solution" to such bloat was HQL, yes or no? -NT - (tablizer) - (13)
                                         It was a solution, yes. -NT - (admin)
                                         Since you seem to be slow... - (ben_tilly) - (11)
                                             I did NOT "lose". His solution was variation on SQL - (tablizer) - (10)
                                                 In your universe, perhaps - (ben_tilly) - (9)
                                                     The mapper did not reduce his code size - (tablizer) - (8)
                                                         Bryce, you lost this one already. - (ben_tilly) - (7)
                                                             I did NOT fscken lose. He gave no code-size proof. Zilch. - (tablizer) - (6)
                                                                 Why is code size your (apparently) sole criterion? - (drewk) - (5)
                                                                     You are welcome to present ANY metric you can justify - (tablizer) - (4)
                                                                         Thank you - (drewk) - (1)
                                                                             Usually people don't question those much - (tablizer)
                                                                         We've already been over change scenarios - (admin) - (1)
                                                                             re: We've already been over change scenarios - (tablizer)
                         "Orthogonal" in exactly the same sense as differential gears - (FuManChu) - (3)
                             You just shortened this thread by 200 posts. Cut & Paste. - (Another Scott) - (1)
                                 "[Nobody] ...points out that the cut-and-paste method... - (FuManChu)
                             No, you got me all wrong, dude - (tablizer)
         Repeat after me: - (admin) - (1)
             I never said OO was JUST about inheritance. - (tablizer)
         Amusing to note... - (JimWeirich) - (41)
             re: nouns and noun grouping - (tablizer) - (40)
                 Bryce: control tables are bad - (admin) - (37)
                     Time will erase performance differences - (tablizer) - (36)
                         That's not the main reason why they're bad. - (admin) - (35)
                             Because VC tools are hierarchy-biased. - (tablizer) - (34)
                                 Go read the thread. - (admin) - (33)
                                     You always talk as if I push a grand conspiracy - (tablizer) - (32)
                                         Relational has its place. - (admin) - (31)
                                             Math and Boolean expressions - (tablizer) - (30)
                                                 Ever use Zachary? - (admin) - (29)
                                                     I will believe it only when I see it with my own eyes - (tablizer) - (28)
                                                         - said the blind man (ducks and runs) -NT - (Arkadiy)
                                                         NO. - (admin) - (26)
                                                             You never identified an in-born fault of tables. -NT - (tablizer) - (25)
                                                                 Tables don't make good chairs. - (Another Scott) - (24)
                                                                     Vacuum Tubes - (tablizer) - (23)
                                                                         You can pry my tube guitar amp outta my cold, dead fingers. - (Steve Lowe) - (22)
                                                                             Digital precision can be boring - (tablizer) - (18)
                                                                                 Yes - tubes are IT man - (tuberculosis) - (17)
                                                                                     Heh! That was my first bass amp! - (jb4) - (16)
                                                                                         I don't know whether to be amused or appalled - (tuberculosis) - (15)
                                                                                             Both actually - (jb4) - (14)
                                                                                                 In negotiations - (jake123) - (13)
                                                                                                     Drooooooooool - (Steve Lowe) - (12)
                                                                                                         Didn't get it - (jake123) - (11)
                                                                                                             Bum R! -NT - (jb4) - (10)
                                                                                                                 Oh well. - (jake123) - (9)
                                                                                                                     Talk to your amp tech - (Steve Lowe) - (8)
                                                                                                                         Oh yeah - (jake123) - (1)
                                                                                                                             Had a teacher who did that - (drewk)
                                                                                                                         Re: Talk to your amp tech - (Ashton) - (5)
                                                                                                                             What I'm gaining - (jake123) - (4)
                                                                                                                                 Have you considered an attenuator? - (Steve Lowe) - (3)
                                                                                                                                     Yes I have - (jake123) - (2)
                                                                                                                                         New thread time, maybe...? -NT - (admin)
                                                                                                                                         This might not cost a bundle.. (new thread) - (Ashton)
                                                                             Mesa Boogie Forever -NT - (tuberculosis) - (2)
                                                                                 That'll prolly be my second choice - (jake123)
                                                                                 Feh! The Ultimate was... - (jb4)
                 re: nouns and noun grouping - (JimWeirich) - (1)
                     Can't do a whole lot with your hidden anecdotes - (tablizer)
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