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     Subversion help? - (FuManChu) - (2)
         Re: Subversion help? - (pwhysall)
         Never mind. Ask on the mailing list and ye shall receive. - (FuManChu)
     Lines of code in a Java method ... - (bluke) - (73)
         I don't know of studies of this with OO languages - (ben_tilly) - (64)
             I remember that when I read Code Complete ... - (bluke) - (60)
                 Hence my speculation about how and why to change that for OO -NT - (ben_tilly) - (59)
                     In OO code many of the decision points ... - (bluke) - (58)
                         Quibble - (ben_tilly) - (57)
                             Okay, thought it was just me - (drewk) - (46)
                                 Not really missing anything. - (FuManChu) - (1)
                                     VMT in C++ - (Arkadiy)
                                 The superclass decides nothing - (ben_tilly) - (43)
                                     Once again, it's the terminology - (drewk) - (40)
                                         That's not multiple inheritance - (ben_tilly)
                                         Ramble ramble ramble - (FuManChu)
                                         Yes and No - (bluke) - (37)
                                             I mis-read Ben - (drewk) - (36)
                                                 You misunderstand interfaces and factories ... - (bluke) - (2)
                                                     Drew is right. - (FuManChu) - (1)
                                                         My point was - (bluke)
                                                 I'm actually on the fence - (ben_tilly) - (32)
                                                     That is with implementation inheritance - (bluke) - (2)
                                                         That is both with interface and implementation inheritance - (ben_tilly) - (1)
                                                             With interfaces it is less of a concern - (bluke)
                                                     Hadn't heard of LSP - (drewk) - (28)
                                                         Huh? - (tuberculosis) - (27)
                                                             Don't get all religious on me - (drewk) - (26)
                                                                 Going to disagreed on this point - (JimWeirich) - (1)
                                                                     agreed - (deSitter)
                                                                 Re: Don't get all religious on me - (JimWeirich) - (23)
                                                                     And that's the key point - (ben_tilly) - (22)
                                                                         Someday I've got to take a class - (drewk) - (21)
                                                                             ..when I get my inheritance -NT - (deSitter)
                                                                             Yup. No generic substitute for that. -NT - (FuManChu)
                                                                             Good idea in this instance. - (admin) - (14)
                                                                                 I object; it's part of a general pattern -NT - (FuManChu) - (13)
                                                                                     Ah, but I have a cunning strategy... - (admin) - (12)
                                                                                         Bah. Overridden. - (FuManChu) - (1)
                                                                                             Overloaded your capacity for understanding, eh? - (admin)
                                                                                         Ashton, is that you? - (Another Scott) - (7)
                                                                                             Better than the treasurer... - (admin) - (6)
                                                                                                 He'll have to wait - I'm collecting garbage - (ben_tilly) - (5)
                                                                                                     Coincidentally, there's a fellow around here named Mark... - (admin) - (4)
                                                                                                         I'm sorry but that pointer is dangling - (ben_tilly) - (3)
                                                                                                             Some people have too much time on their hands... - (static) - (2)
                                                                                                                 You're a real LALRf riot. - (admin) - (1)
                                                                                                                     So you sed. Personally, I think it's a Perl in the Blinker. -NT - (Another Scott)
                                                                                         Uuuuuhh... - (jb4)
                                                                                         The cun.. er, clever linguist suffers Code 715 - (Ashton)
                                                                             Or an interface - (tuberculosis) - (2)
                                                                                 Yes, and that's what we do - (drewk) - (1)
                                                                                     Language doesn't need to support abstract class - (tuberculosis)
                                                                             That was not what I meant - (bluke)
                                     It's a decision, but it's abstracted out - (Arkadiy) - (1)
                                         Yes, but I don't care how it works - (bluke)
                             DP's are compressed in OO - (tuberculosis) - (6)
                                 Polymorphism relies on a lie - (tablizer) - (5)
                                     Re: Polymorphism relies on a lie - (admin) - (2)
                                         Mostly, it is - (tablizer) - (1)
                                             To the naive programmer, perhaps. - (admin)
                                     Something tells me you'd like prototype OO as a midground -NT - (FuManChu) - (1)
                                         *No-one* can eat that much crow -NT - (pwhysall)
                             We had a big fight over case-vs-poly a few years ago -NT - (tablizer) - (2)
                                 Charley Rock Tree - (ChrisR) - (1)
                                     Ha! :-) -NT - (Another Scott)
             Re: I don't know of studies of this with OO languages - (deSitter)
             Interesting comment by Ron Jeffries - (bluke) - (1)
                 Re: Interesting comment by Ron Jeffries - (deSitter)
         to minimize the damage that these kind of developers wreak - (Arkadiy) - (1)
             Unfortunately I can't - (bluke)
         4. -NT - (FuManChu) - (2)
             In smalltalk that might be realistic - (bluke) - (1)
                 That was my point. Glad someone got the joke :) -NT - (FuManChu)
         1/2 page - (tuberculosis)
         Re: Lines of code in a Java method ... - (dshellman) - (1)
             Agree - (bluke)
     Java graphics manipulation - (ChrisR) - (3)
         Re: Java graphics manipulation - (admin) - (2)
             Will look into. - (ChrisR)
             Cheated. - (ChrisR)
     Is this the end? - (deSitter) - (18)
         Check the date, Ross. Check the date. -NT - (inthane-chan) - (17)
             Oops wrong window - (deSitter) - (16)
                 Going to take over the VB crowd initially - (tuberculosis) - (15)
                     Re: Going to take over the VB crowd initially - (JayMehaffey)
                     Re: Going to take over the VB crowd initially - (pwhysall) - (2)
                         Big apps - (tuberculosis) - (1)
                             yep, my favorite quote around here is - (boxley)
                     Damn near every job ad I see - (lincoln) - (10)
                         Talk to this guy - (deSitter) - (9)
                             That's a big 10-4, good buddy! - (lincoln)
                             Shoot me an email - (lincoln) - (1)
                                 Not yet! This isn't art, it's contracting -NT - (deSitter)
                             Email came back rejected this morning - (lincoln) - (5)
                                 Re: Email came back rejected this morning - (deSitter)
                                 Re: Email came back rejected this morning - (deSitter) - (3)
                                     He just called - (lincoln) - (2)
                                         Your icon is unusually apt... - (static) - (1)
                                             Your point is well taken - (lincoln)
     Some corrections, notes, etc on Code Complete 2 - (ben_tilly) - (15)
         EMACScript? - (pwhysall)
         Two additional typos. - (Another Scott) - (2)
             Thanks to both of you - (ben_tilly) - (1)
                 I know a little about that. It's 2 Two too typos in one! :) -NT - (Another Scott)
         Pathologically Eclectic Rubbish Lister? - (Simon_Jester)
         Small Ruby correction ... - (JimWeirich) - (3)
             D'oh - (ben_tilly) - (2)
                 Perhaps you were thinking of 'next' - (JimWeirich) - (1)
                     No, I just thought that Ruby was more similar than it is - (ben_tilly)
         Re: Some corrections, notes, etc on Code Complete 2 - (systems) - (5)
             Human dynamics have no precise answers - (ben_tilly) - (4)
                 What do you base this belief on? - (broomberg) - (3)
                     My memory is fine - (ben_tilly) - (2)
                         He needs real world experience - (broomberg) - (1)
                             No disagreement -NT - (ben_tilly)
     How many people work in more then 1 language at a time? - (bluke) - (28)
         Me - (broomberg)
         Me - (Arkadiy)
         Me - (hnick)
         Ayuh - (Yendor) - (1)
             Not exactly what I meant ... - (bluke)
         ObAOL - (Meerkat)
         .0/ - (drewk)
         Used to - (jake123) - (7)
             'Bout time ... I've been waiting for the canuks to speak up - (drewk)
             I speak both customer and developer - (boxley) - (1)
                 :) -NT - (jake123)
             Same for me...same languages even. - (bepatient) - (3)
                 Je suis sur - (jake123) - (2)
                     Je suis en train d'oublier tous. -NT - (bepatient) - (1)
                         La meme ici - (jake123)
         Re: How many people work in more then 1 language at a time? - (dlevitt)
         6 - (admin)
         Need to cut back - (ChrisR)
         At one time? - (FuManChu)
         Rack me up as well - (ben_tilly)
         I think most enterprise projects - (tuberculosis)
         /me - (jb4)
         Multiple languages tend to be de rigeur. - (static)
         Same as above - (Simon_Jester)
         /me - (folkert) - (3)
             Re: mythical languages - (FuManChu) - (2)
                 What are you talking about??? - (folkert) - (1)
                     Don't you mean myth-spellings? -NT - (ben_tilly)
     Do you use an IDE? - (bluke) - (63)
         I use emacs - (admin) - (17)
             That was just 1 example - (bluke) - (9)
                 Re: That was just 1 example - (admin) - (8)
                     What I meant was ... - (bluke) - (4)
                         Re: What I meant was ... - (admin) - (3)
                             I never really used Emacs ... - (bluke) - (2)
                                 No argument there. - (admin)
                                 But if they're using VIM and calling it VI - (Simon_Jester)
                     I find the prefix to be distracting - (bluke) - (2)
                         That would work as well. -NT - (admin)
                         Use leading underscores for ivars - less distracting - (tuberculosis)
             Little features won me over - (bluke) - (6)
                 Re: Little features won me over - (admin) - (5)
                     I am only doing Java now - (bluke) - (3)
                         Re: I am only doing Java now - (admin) - (2)
                             I do browse jars ... - (bluke) - (1)
                                 How about embedded ones? - (admin)
                     ICLRPD (new thread) - (Another Scott)
         I'm bouncing back and forth on this. - (broomberg) - (36)
             There is no question ... - (bluke) - (30)
                 OK - (broomberg) - (29)
                     Not that I am selling Intellij ... - (bluke) - (28)
                         Doubt it - (broomberg) - (27)
                             Most of my typing is inserting text. - (admin) - (2)
                                 ed is the standard text editor. -NT - (pwhysall) - (1)
                                     ? -NT - (admin)
                             Modes are evil. - (FuManChu) - (23)
                                 ? -NT - (pwhysall) - (14)
                                     ? RTFA - (FuManChu) - (13)
                                         ? -NT - (pwhysall) - (8)
                                             Love ya man -NT - (FuManChu)
                                             Type faster, Barry! :D -NT - (FuManChu) - (1)
                                                 Huh? -NT - (broomberg)
                                             I did RTFA - (broomberg) - (4)
                                                 ? - (pwhysall) - (3)
                                                     ? - (FuManChu) - (1)
                                                         Footpedal - (altmann)
                                                     Yup - (broomberg)
                                         ? -NT - (admin) - (3)
                                             ??? -NT - (Yendor) - (2)
                                                 ???? -NT - (broomberg) - (1)
                                                     !!! -NT - (Yendor)
                                 Modals wobble but they don't fall down. - (Another Scott) - (7)
                                     ROfsckingFL! - (jb4) - (6)
                                         Yep, teco was great. - (admin)
                                         In that case - (broomberg) - (4)
                                             Wuss - (pwhysall)
                                             Oh dear -- you woke Peter up. :-D -NT - (static) - (1)
                                                 Stalker! -NT - (pwhysall)
                                             Used both... - (jb4)
             VI keys. - (static) - (3)
                 I have heard this many times but never understood it - (bluke) - (2)
                     Refocus down just a little bit. - (static)
                     For me? - (Simon_Jester)
             IDEA for Java - (tuberculosis)
         The refactor tools are good - (ChrisR)
         Call it a terminology mismatch, then - (FuManChu) - (4)
             But that is what I use it for! - (broomberg) - (2)
                 How about this - (drewk) - (1)
                     Mostly. - (FuManChu)
             Maybe - (bluke)
         I don't either - (ben_tilly)
         I think I put my finger on it - (drewk)
     Casting in C#? - (broomberg) - (24)
         What about things like strtoint? - (broomberg)
         WARNING - HUNGARIAN NOTATION HEREIN -NT - (deSitter) - (22)
             I've crossed the annoyance threshold - (broomberg) - (20)
                 Not likely to be a casting issue - (ChrisR) - (8)
                     Oh please. - (broomberg) - (4)
                         Just going by the original error - (ChrisR) - (3)
                             Thank you - (broomberg) - (2)
                                 Classic library design issue - (ChrisR) - (1)
                                     This is not a problem in REAL OO languages - (tuberculosis)
                     Is a casting issue - (broomberg) - (2)
                         Is a junk idiom issue - see Todd's post -NT - (deSitter)
                         Is a language library/design issue - (tuberculosis)
                 /me whistles nonchalantly to myself in public -NT - (FuManChu) - (10)
                     'splain please. -NT - (broomberg) - (9)
                         Use Python. - (admin) - (8)
                             What GUI toolkit? - (broomberg) - (7)
                                 wxThingy, I wot. -NT - (pwhysall) - (5)
                                     Re: wxThingy, I wot. - (pwhysall) - (4)
                                         Valid weekend project - (broomberg) - (3)
                                             Re: Valid weekend project - (admin) - (2)
                                                 My unscientific impression from the newsgroup - (FuManChu) - (1)
                                                     Self-selecting sample - (drewk)
                                 wxWindows/wxPython -NT - (admin)
             GAK!!! -NT - (jb4)
     interesting HPFM - (boxley)
     C# OpenFileDialog memory - (broomberg) - (1)
         Or, if it has a CURRENTdir property or sump'n, use that...? -NT - (CRConrad)
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