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     Question on the java Spring tutorial - (drewk) - (7)
         That's just the command object. - (admin) - (6)
             So is PriceIncrease.java part of model, view or controller? - (drewk) - (5)
                 The reason for the validators - (admin) - (4)
                     Okay, we don't typically do that - (drewk) - (3)
                         It's not an OR layer. - (admin) - (2)
                             Not what you said / I heard - (drewk) - (1)
                                 You missed one. - (admin)
     For Peter, handy java resource - (drewk)
     OT: Inner/outer classes. - (pwhysall) - (30)
         Simple explanation: - (admin)
         Wheras an "outer" class is just an ordinary class. -NT - (CRConrad)
         There's some other types as well - (ChrisR)
         Also how Java fakes friendship - (tuberculosis)
         Inner class is declared inside another class - (Arkadiy)
         Thanks all - (pwhysall) - (24)
             Re: Thanks all - (systems) - (23)
                 You misunderstand, on at least one issue: - (CRConrad) - (1)
                     No, they can be used as factories as well. - (admin)
                 s/callbacks/delegates/g - (ChrisR) - (3)
                     Yep, one of the uglier useful things in Java. :-P -NT - (admin)
                     ICLRPD (new thread) - (drewk)
                     Great - another perfectly good term hijacked and hosed (new thread) - (tuberculosis)
                 You can't do #3 - (ben_tilly) - (3)
                     For most uses... - (admin) - (2)
                         I did find that interesting. One major complaint down. - (ben_tilly) - (1)
                             You'll find this interesting too - Bistro - (tuberculosis)
                 They sorta stink as closures - (Arkadiy) - (12)
                     You need Jim Weirich's... - (ChrisR) - (11)
                         Without being rude... - (pwhysall) - (4)
                             A recursive anonymous function... - (ChrisR) - (3)
                                 Is it just interesting, or is it useful? - (pwhysall) - (2)
                                     Well, in Java it's pretty useless. -NT - (ChrisR)
                                     It's a pretty basic feature found in functional languages - (jake123)
                         Re: You need Jim Weirich's... - (JimWeirich) - (5)
                             I've just followed the first step of execution - (Arkadiy) - (4)
                                 I understand it! - (ben_tilly) - (3)
                                     Read it out loud - (drewk) - (1)
                                         I detect glazed over eyes - (ben_tilly)
                                     This was as brilliant an explanation as I've ever seen - (Arkadiy)
     JSP question. - (mmoffitt) - (2)
         Re: JSP question. - (dshellman) - (1)
             Thanks man, appreciate it. -NT - (mmoffitt)
     No, this isn't Oh, Pun, either - (FuManChu)
     Unbelievable! - (Arkadiy) - (12)
         We wouldn't want programming to become too easy. -NT - (ChrisR)
         How? - (admin) - (10)
             OK, not EXACTLY Collection - (Arkadiy) - (9)
                 Oh, got it. - (admin) - (8)
                     Oh yes, lets make another class - (tuberculosis) - (7)
                         ICRPD (new thread) - (Arkadiy)
                         As I said: bleh. -NT - (admin)
                         If I ever have to program Java... - (static) - (4)
                             All languages have warts. - (admin) - (3)
                                 Some are worse - (tuberculosis) - (2)
                                     Tell us how you really feel about Java. :-) -NT - (Another Scott) - (1)
                                         Oh, its OK - (tuberculosis)
     How do I control file access in Java? - (drewk) - (14)
         What user is Tomcat running as? - (admin) - (8)
             Running as tomcat4 -NT - (drewk) - (7)
                 Re: Running as tomcat4 - (admin) - (6)
                     I chmod-ed 777 to make sure - (drewk) - (5)
                         What is this "policytool" of which you speak? - (admin) - (4)
                             Trying now -- cool, seems to work[1] - (drewk) - (3)
                                 If it's your server... - (admin) - (2)
                                     That's what the java secutiry docs said - (drewk) - (1)
                                         If you were doing hosting, you'd go broke - (ben_tilly)
         System.exec("chmod " + options + " " + filename)? -NT - (tuberculosis) - (4)
             Yes, that what I have in mind now - (Arkadiy) - (3)
                 Wasn't that - (drewk) - (2)
                     You're talking about JVM's access to external files - (Arkadiy)
                     You're only now starting to wonder? - (ben_tilly)
     Verity on VB - (pwhysall) - (3)
         ICLRPD (new thread) - (ben_tilly)
         From what I recall of my VB days: It's accurate. -NT - (Meerkat)
         Wicked -NT - (tuberculosis)
     The joys of .Net - (johnu) - (53)
         Ick. - (admin) - (18)
             It warn't me - (jb4)
             Here != IWETHEY in this case. -NT - (admin)
             So what's a good java IDE to use? - (drewk) - (15)
                 Intellij IDEA - (admin) - (14)
                     While learning, free is good - (drewk) - (10)
                         Checkout Eclipse - (johnu) - (9)
                             I despise that program - (tuberculosis) - (6)
                                 I'm no psychic... - (pwhysall) - (3)
                                     You ought to work in the circus -NT - (tuberculosis) - (1)
                                         I come here. Next best thing. -NT - (pwhysall)
                                     I think IDEA is good - I use it when I do Java - (tuberculosis)
                                 ICLRPD (new thread) - (ben_tilly)
                                 It's all relative - (johnu)
                             I am such a lUser - (drewk) - (1)
                                 Look at the pretty COLORS! -NT - (jb4)
                     Concur - (jb4) - (2)
                         As a rabid, frothing Emacs user - (admin)
                         Another vote for Intellij - (bluke)
         Listeners - (warmachine) - (1)
             Re: Listeners - (johnu)
         Crap and Double Crap -NT - (tuberculosis) - (10)
             Interesting thing is... - (johnu) - (9)
                 Umm... Squeak? -NT - (folkert) - (1)
                     Re: Umm... "up to date Windows UIs" -NT - (altmann)
                 Looked at Dolphin? - (tuberculosis)
                 Going farther afield - (ben_tilly) - (5)
                     You lose a lot of power though - (tuberculosis) - (4)
                         Re: You lose a lot of power though - (JimWeirich) - (3)
                             Is the parser written in Ruby? - (tuberculosis) - (2)
                                 Just like C# and .Net - (mmoffitt)
                                 Re: Is the parser written in Ruby? - (JimWeirich)
         #3 will be possible in C# 2.0 - (altmann) - (1)
             But it's gonna be great! -NT - (mmoffitt)
         C# 2.0 - (johnu) - (17)
             Strong typing bites itself in the gonads once again - (FuManChu) - (2)
                 Any production quality dynamic languages for .NET yet - (johnu) - (1)
                     Not that I've seen. - (FuManChu)
             Objects to the rescue - (johnu) - (13)
                 Sounds reasonable - (FuManChu) - (6)
                     Wibble, wibble... - (CRConrad) - (4)
                         Semantics - (FuManChu) - (3)
                             A) Almost everything is, when you get down to it; and B)... - (CRConrad) - (2)
                                 English is simply too flexible to be used well. - (FuManChu) - (1)
                                     Yeah, I know - but it makes for a funny contrast... - (CRConrad)
                     Re: Sounds reasonable - (johnu)
                 Same old bullshit. - (CRConrad) - (5)
                     I second that -NT - (warmachine)
                     Re: Same old bullshit. - (johnu) - (3)
                         And WTF does that have to do with anything? - (CRConrad) - (2)
                             Re: And WTF does that have to do with anything? - (johnu) - (1)
                                 OK, so what you originally said was only half the story. - (CRConrad)
         OT: Inner/outer classes. (new thread) - (pwhysall)
     Relative popularity of programming languages - (ben_tilly) - (29)
         Oooh what an awful website - (tuberculosis)
         Woohoo! - (imric) - (17)
             RPG cycles in and out. :-) -NT - (ChrisR) - (16)
                 *choke* - (imric) - (15)
                     Time for OO RPG? - (ChrisR) - (14)
                         Re: Time for OO RPG? - (jake123) - (8)
                             It's people like you that make.... - (ChrisR) - (7)
                                 Bah, we were here first. :) -NT - (inthane-chan) - (5)
                                     RPG was invented when computers were still considered... - (ChrisR) - (4)
                                         CF: Grognard. - (inthane-chan) - (3)
                                             Jacquard loom, perhaps? - (Ashton) - (2)
                                                 D'ja miss the bit about 'sojer of the Old Guard'/"Grumbler"? -NT - (CRConrad) - (1)
                                                     Moot I guess - seems only wargamers *use* the word at all. -NT - (Ashton)
                                 Glad to be of service - doing you right by doing you in -NT - (jake123)
                         Not your father's RPG - (johnu) - (4)
                             Oh, the horror - (ChrisR) - (3)
                                 The cycle is what makes RPG so good! - (imric) - (2)
                                     Well, yeah but there are some really strange... - (ChrisR) - (1)
                                         The display file IS a Primary (when you do it right) - (imric)
         Big change in Mar '04? - (FuManChu)
         It's ripe for a bout of iwethey one-up-person-ship - (Meerkat) - (7)
             With or without reference materials? -NT - (admin)
             Re: It's ripe for a bout of iwethey one-up-person-ship - (JayMehaffey)
             Bits and pieces - (broomberg) - (3)
                 Move Delphi/Kylix up one category; maybe two. Seriously. -NT - (CRConrad) - (2)
                     I accept that - (broomberg) - (1)
                         You have Pascal (syntax), Java (OO) and VB (IDE). Sum=Delphi -NT - (CRConrad)
             I know VMS DCL. - (pwhysall)
         www.godchecker.com - (pwhysall)
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