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     Java Applets and browsers - (Arkadiy) - (8)
         AFAIK - (admin) - (1)
             www.suntimes.com/crossword = good example -NT - (deSitter)
         Just say no - (tuberculosis) - (5)
             Only way to fly in my experience. - (admin) - (4)
                 That's the only type of applet I've written. - (mmoffitt)
                 Same here, more or less. - (Arkadiy) - (2)
                     Re: Same here, more or less. - (dshellman) - (1)
                         Yes, we've been tinking about JavaScript too - (Arkadiy)
     Java skills gap - (bluke) - (59)
         Re: Java skills gap - (deSitter) - (10)
             Believe me I know - (bluke) - (9)
                 Re: Believe me I know - (deSitter) - (8)
                     Makes sense, so it won't happen. -NT - (mmoffitt)
                     Not so easy to find a savvy person either - (bluke) - (6)
                         Re: Not so easy to find a savvy person either - (deSitter) - (5)
                             Because HR screens resumes - (bluke) - (4)
                                 Definitely agree on that last point. - (admin) - (3)
                                     The best thing I ever did was learn Smalltalk - (bluke) - (2)
                                         I dont know, but as long as they bathe regular I dont mind - (boxley)
                                         Great interview question: - (admin)
         I am afraid there is even more - (Arkadiy) - (45)
             This is why I am not a big fan of IDE's - (bluke) - (44)
                 Disagree slightly. - (mmoffitt) - (43)
                     GUI IDEs just get in my way - (admin) - (1)
                         I hate doing UI's. - (mmoffitt)
                     Intelij is a perfect example - (bluke) - (40)
                         Funny, I've found Java itself "awful" :-) -NT - (mmoffitt) - (39)
                             It is, but IntelliJ makes it less miserable -NT - (tuberculosis)
                             It all depends on where you are coming from - (bluke) - (37)
                                 Re: It all depends on where you are coming from - (deSitter) - (36)
                                     Two letters: GC - (Arkadiy) - (35)
                                         So? - (deSitter) - (30)
                                             GC is totally worth it and can be *more* efficient - (tuberculosis) - (29)
                                                 Ok I'll accept that - (deSitter)
                                                 I like ObjectiveC's memory management. -NT - (admin) - (2)
                                                     Its sort of NGC - (tuberculosis) - (1)
                                                         Kinda tedious, but not really. - (admin)
                                                 Reigning in the beast - (jb4) - (24)
                                                     Whoa - (deSitter) - (6)
                                                         "Partially persistant" things happen all of the time - (ben_tilly) - (5)
                                                             I am confused totally - (boxley) - (4)
                                                                 Its the heap - (tuberculosis)
                                                                 You can't use the stack for a lot of things - (ben_tilly) - (2)
                                                                     Re: You can't use the stack for a lot of things - (deSitter) - (1)
                                                                         A good design is a good design... -NT - (ben_tilly)
                                                     Ah, I see... - (admin) - (3)
                                                         OK, OK,...Fair enough - (jb4) - (2)
                                                             The world is full of less-than-adequate programmers - (tuberculosis) - (1)
                                                                 And plain ol' automation is the mechanism - (FuManChu)
                                                     Don't get it. - (Arkadiy) - (7)
                                                         Circular references and Class GC - (tuberculosis) - (6)
                                                             Still don't get it... - (Arkadiy) - (5)
                                                                 I guess now I do - (Arkadiy) - (4)
                                                                     Think singleton - (tuberculosis) - (3)
                                                                         Translate into non comp-sci jargon? -NT - (deSitter) - (2)
                                                                             Singleton is a pattern - (tuberculosis)
                                                                             Translation - (ben_tilly)
                                                     This was a problem in Java 1.02 as well - (tuberculosis) - (4)
                                                         Re: This was a problem in Java 1.02 as well - (dshellman) - (3)
                                                             Could you elaborate on classloader problem? - (Arkadiy) - (2)
                                                                 Re: Could you elaborate on classloader problem? - (dshellman) - (1)
                                                                     As the article says, - (Arkadiy)
                                         what does Guitar Center have to do with this? :) -NT - (Steve Lowe) - (2)
                                             Re: what does Guitar Center have to do with this? :) - (deSitter) - (1)
                                                 Yes, and in the hands of a Master - (jb4)
                                         Java has gonorrhea? Or Java == gonorrhea? I'd buy either. -NT - (mmoffitt)
         I question the source - (ben_tilly) - (1)
             Agree - marketing angle is obvious - (tuberculosis)
     One for Ross - (CRConrad) - (1)
         Interesting but misguided - (deSitter)
     That reminds me... - (CRConrad) - (21)
         Re: That reminds me... - (deSitter) - (20)
             And many of the ideas for Borland - (ChrisR)
             Drag-and-drop a few components, set a few properties, and... - (CRConrad) - (18)
                 Wrong on Paradox - (boxley) - (16)
                     Paradox -for Windows- != Paradox. PfW published ~199...4? -NT - (CRConrad) - (9)
                         Janvier 1993 - (altmann)
                         History of Visual Basic - (boxley) - (7)
                             A "history" devoid of dates. So: When was VB v. 1 released? - (CRConrad) - (5)
                                 VB 1 was a dos product was it not? I thought VB for windows - (boxley) - (4)
                                     Thats Quick Basic - VB 1.x was around 1993 - (deSitter) - (3)
                                         That's all well and good... But it wasn't a RAD IDE. - (CRConrad) - (2)
                                             Re: That's all well and good... But it wasn't a RAD IDE. - (deSitter)
                                             If you define RAD as usable - (boxley)
                             More history. - (a6l6e6x)
                     FoxPro clone of Paradox? - (Arkadiy) - (5)
                         Re: FoxPro clone of Paradox? - (deSitter) - (2)
                             I worked with DOS FoxPro - (Arkadiy) - (1)
                                 Re: I worked with DOS FoxPro - (deSitter)
                         spent a lot of time with Foxpro 2.0 - (boxley) - (1)
                             Flakey indeed - (Arkadiy)
                 DevGuide for OpenWindows 2 - (pwhysall)
     Article, links on freeware REXX - (deSitter) - (5)
         It's been a long time. . . - (morganek)
         tight and readable? - (cforde) - (3)
             I've done both as well - (deSitter) - (2)
                 Something curious just occured to me - (deSitter) - (1)
                     Nope - (ben_tilly)
     downloaded a new toy apache2triad - (boxley) - (1)
         Looks like a very useful bundle. Thanks for the pointer! -NT - (Another Scott)
     Nuther one of those Perl questions. - (folkert) - (2)
         This is Perl. What are guarantees? :-P - (ben_tilly)
         It is a list - (broomberg)
     Catalan numbers - (deSitter)
     Bruce Eckel on Java's generics - (ben_tilly) - (14)
         ObAPL plug - (deSitter)
         I enjoyed the follow-up more :) - (FuManChu)
         They're mostly about eliminating casting in collections - (tuberculosis) - (11)
             as a non jhead or any recent programmer - (boxley) - (1)
                 Sure - Ever tried BeanShell? - (tuberculosis)
             That was pretty much Bruce Eckel's point of view - (ben_tilly) - (7)
                 B&D is simpler - why complicate? - (deSitter) - (5)
                     Why isn't Forth ideal? - (ben_tilly) - (2)
                         Re: Why isn't Forth ideal? - (deSitter) - (1)
                             Yes, but never from those who designed it. ;) -NT - (FuManChu)
                     Bondage & Discipline? -NT - (tuberculosis) - (1)
                         Yes, it's stupid vacuous X-speak - (deSitter)
                 Yes - he no longer "Thinks in Java" - (tuberculosis)
             The real way to do generics would have been ... - (bluke)
     Okay, I am really down to learning Perl, Python next - (folkert) - (5)
         Shorter is generally better, if it still feels natural - (ben_tilly) - (3)
             Out of curiosity - what is a sensible way to inc a string? -NT - (Arkadiy) - (2)
                 Pretty much what you would guess... - (ben_tilly) - (1)
                     I've used alpha increment - (broomberg)
         Yep. That's the correct order. - (FuManChu)
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