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Post #190,281 by tablizer 1/15/05 3:57:57 AM Reply	History of PHP in question Shows the difference between an OSS project and a corporate gig. Java started with a design. PHP grew up from a hack. My impression is that OOP was added on to PHP as an afterthought because one of the cofounders of it does not think much of OOP. As PHP became more popular, more people wanted Java-like OOP capabilities, perhaps out of habit. Similarly the originators of Java didn't give much thought to meta abilities in Java, and the later changes to add it seem hacky to many. It is a matter of priorities of the originators. ________________ oop.ismad.com
Post #190,310 by JayMehaffey 1/15/05 8:16:52 PM Reply	PHP started as less then a scripting language The first version of PHP was just a way to embedd server side tags in pages for things like hit counters. People wanted more and more features added, till somebody eventually added an IF tag and the race was off to create a real languages. As PHP was used for more and more complex projects, the capacity for OO programming was more desirable. OO is overkill for a lot of trivial web projects. But if you need to create a truely complex and powerful system, it is a big advantage. There is a reason PHP is on version 5 when most other languages only have two or three versions no matter how old they are. Jay
Post #190,346 by tablizer 1/16/05 2:10:29 AM Reply	Them 'er fightin' words OO is overkill for a lot of trivial web projects. But if you need to create a truely complex and powerful system, it is a big advantage. Yeah right. Wherezduproof. Let's not go there today. ________________ oop.ismad.com

Tilting at windmills: classes vs objects - (drewk) - (35) - Jan. 12, 2005, 10:26:04 PM EST

Er, no. - (admin) - (14) - Jan. 12, 2005, 10:35:32 PM EST

Well ... - (drewk) - (11) - Jan. 12, 2005, 10:41:28 PM EST

They're wrong. - (admin) - (9) - Jan. 12, 2005, 10:49:05 PM EST

I'd say parallel development - (drewk) - (5) - Jan. 12, 2005, 10:50:21 PM EST

I dispute that claim - (tuberculosis) - (1) - Jan. 13, 2005, 12:13:16 PM EST

Exactly. - (mmoffitt) - Jan. 26, 2005, 08:51:54 AM EST

History of PHP in question - (tablizer) - (2) - Jan. 15, 2005, 03:57:57 AM EST

PHP started as less then a scripting language - (JayMehaffey) - (1) - Jan. 15, 2005, 08:16:52 PM EST

Them 'er fightin' words - (tablizer) - Jan. 16, 2005, 02:10:29 AM EST

I think PHP's upgrades are just practical. - (static) - (2) - Jan. 13, 2005, 12:15:54 AM EST

By "class variables" you mean "static" class variables? -NT - (drewk) - (1) - Jan. 13, 2005, 12:18:47 AM EST

Er, yes. - (static) - Jan. 13, 2005, 12:39:01 AM EST

What to say if someone says that... - (ben_tilly) - Jan. 13, 2005, 10:43:01 AM EST

Nit - (dshellman) - (1) - Jan. 13, 2005, 10:53:33 AM EST

Actually, that's not a nit - (admin) - Jan. 13, 2005, 10:58:38 AM EST

a class is a type of object - (daemon) - (2) - Jan. 12, 2005, 10:44:44 PM EST

It's tables all the way down. :-) - (ChrisR) - (1) - Jan. 12, 2005, 11:51:51 PM EST

ICLRPD (new thread) - (Steve Lowe) - Jan. 13, 2005, 12:07:45 AM EST

Very astute observation - (tuberculosis) - Jan. 13, 2005, 12:10:32 PM EST

Re: Tilting at windmills: classes vs objects - (systems) - (15) - Jan. 24, 2005, 06:50:48 PM EST

I suspected that programming would eventually converge - (Ashton) - Jan. 25, 2005, 03:04:32 AM EST

Do you honestly believe that this is from TCL??? - (ben_tilly) - (13) - Jan. 25, 2005, 09:21:46 AM EST

Amen - (broomberg) - Jan. 25, 2005, 08:20:59 PM EST

Re: Do you honestly believe that this is from TCL??? - (systems) - (11) - Feb. 2, 2005, 02:55:04 AM EST

think you had better be a developer - (daemon) - (3) - Feb. 2, 2005, 09:07:03 AM EST

Funny; I was thinking the opposite ;) -NT - (FuManChu) - (2) - Feb. 2, 2005, 12:31:27 PM EST

Ive met lots of developers that have no clue - (daemon) - Feb. 2, 2005, 01:25:40 PM EST

Neither - (broomberg) - Feb. 2, 2005, 08:29:41 PM EST

Let me get this straight - (ben_tilly) - (5) - Feb. 2, 2005, 08:48:42 PM EST

very loud VD (clap clap clap) -NT - (daemon) - Feb. 2, 2005, 10:11:52 PM EST

Then let me elaborate - (systems) - (3) - Feb. 3, 2005, 04:55:39 AM EST

"Systems", you should meet Bryce. Bryce, this is "Systems". -NT - (CRConrad) - Feb. 3, 2005, 05:42:13 AM EST

BTW, "Systems": Lay off the exclamation marks. Have some ... - (CRConrad) - Feb. 3, 2005, 05:45:25 AM EST

You sound like the Rincewind of programming -NT - (ben_tilly) - Feb. 3, 2005, 11:20:52 AM EST

For scripting, TCL is poo. -NT - (pwhysall) - Feb. 3, 2005, 10:13:05 AM EST

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