And that point is completely true

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by ben_tilly

2/2/05 8:58:01 PM

And that point is completely true

Complete rewrites are much more affordable when you don't have to care about details such as market share. It does leave you with a lot of work and no shipable product while competitors are producing improvements.

There are no easy solutions to that. Just think of how long the road was for Microsoft to replace Windows 3.1 with Windows NT. (I think we all know that Windows 95 was not, despite many claims otherwise, actually a complete rewrite...) And I think that they handled it pretty well.

As an ironic example of not doing it so well, I'd like to point at Microsoft's current problems with Internet Explorer 6.0...

Cheers,
Ben

I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)

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When you say 'new' - (tuberculosis) - (41) - Jan. 28, 2005, 05:08:09 PM EST

Word from the IGM on ziwt says ... I was wrong - (drewk) - (40) - Jan. 28, 2005, 05:14:22 PM EST

I think you've got it - (tuberculosis) - (11) - Jan. 28, 2005, 05:37:00 PM EST

Would be nice to say that in the docs - (drewk) - (10) - Jan. 28, 2005, 06:11:29 PM EST

That's missing for most languages - (tuberculosis) - (6) - Jan. 29, 2005, 02:20:36 AM EST

Like Drew, I'm trying to teach myself Java. - (pwhysall) - (5) - Jan. 29, 2005, 04:09:20 PM EST

"Effective Java" => oxymoron :-) -NT - (ChrisR) - (1) - Jan. 29, 2005, 05:30:47 PM EST

"Microsoft Works" -NT - (drewk) - Jan. 29, 2005, 05:36:57 PM EST

What would he know about it? - (tuberculosis) - (2) - Jan. 29, 2005, 08:10:59 PM EST

That's an oddly visceral response. - (pwhysall) - (1) - Jan. 29, 2005, 08:18:31 PM EST

Symptomatic of general J-headed attitude - (tuberculosis) - Jan. 30, 2005, 01:53:36 AM EST

Re: Would be nice to say that in the docs - (Arkadiy) - (2) - Jan. 29, 2005, 02:05:49 PM EST

That's it exactly - (drewk) - Jan. 29, 2005, 04:25:26 PM EST

I'd give up on Morphic - (tuberculosis) - Jan. 29, 2005, 08:16:16 PM EST

Now I'm getting frustrated (again) - (drewk) - (27) - Jan. 29, 2005, 05:03:28 PM EST

Re: Now I'm getting frustrated (again) - (admin) - (1) - Jan. 29, 2005, 07:11:02 PM EST

Badness - (jake123) - Jan. 29, 2005, 07:49:26 PM EST

Servlets and business logic - (warmachine) - (22) - Jan. 29, 2005, 07:12:42 PM EST

So is this example stupid? - (drewk) - (21) - Jan. 30, 2005, 11:48:02 PM EST

Hell, yeah! - (warmachine) - (1) - Jan. 31, 2005, 07:05:16 PM EST

Re: Hell, yeah! - (admin) - Jan. 31, 2005, 08:00:58 PM EST

Way stupid - (tuberculosis) - (18) - Jan. 31, 2005, 08:25:16 PM EST

Trying to learn The Right Way[tm] - (drewk) - (17) - Jan. 31, 2005, 11:14:41 PM EST

No such way - (tuberculosis) - (16) - Jan. 31, 2005, 11:45:54 PM EST

I need to write a small app like it's a big one - (drewk) - (15) - Feb. 1, 2005, 12:27:48 AM EST

Huh, most people are trying to figure out the opposite - (tuberculosis) - Feb. 1, 2005, 04:18:18 AM EST

This is classic - (ben_tilly) - (13) - Feb. 1, 2005, 02:07:20 PM EST

Um, ... - (mmoffitt) - (1) - Feb. 1, 2005, 03:51:29 PM EST

No. Exceptions exist. But generally, yes. -NT - (ben_tilly) - Feb. 1, 2005, 03:59:27 PM EST

Not exactly - (drewk) - (10) - Feb. 1, 2005, 05:29:27 PM EST

Good luck - (ben_tilly) - Feb. 1, 2005, 08:08:22 PM EST

Ah - so that's what you're trying to do - (tuberculosis) - (8) - Feb. 1, 2005, 08:20:00 PM EST

Time to hit the library - (drewk) - (3) - Feb. 1, 2005, 08:49:09 PM EST

That's an old interview. - (admin) - (2) - Feb. 1, 2005, 08:56:43 PM EST

Gold mine - (drewk) - (1) - Feb. 1, 2005, 10:47:02 PM EST

Moochos grassy arse -NT - (pwhysall) - Feb. 3, 2005, 10:19:28 AM EST

Several copies of Rod's book around here. - (admin) - (3) - Feb. 1, 2005, 08:57:37 PM EST

Q on book. - (mmoffitt) - (2) - Feb. 4, 2005, 12:24:21 PM EST

Rod's book isn't for administrators - (admin) - (1) - Feb. 4, 2005, 12:58:13 PM EST

Ok, thanks. -NT - (mmoffitt) - Feb. 4, 2005, 03:25:24 PM EST

That's not what they are saying - (tuberculosis) - (1) - Jan. 29, 2005, 08:22:52 PM EST

Servlets and page scoped variables. - (warmachine) - Jan. 30, 2005, 07:10:08 AM EST

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There is a certain amount of value... - (admin) - (1) - Feb. 1, 2005, 09:29:09 AM EST

I already know that - (drewk) - Feb. 1, 2005, 05:32:59 PM EST

s/Tomcat/Jetty/ - (tuberculosis) - (10) - Feb. 1, 2005, 12:23:31 PM EST

Based on what? - (admin) - (9) - Feb. 1, 2005, 12:55:12 PM EST

Personal experience - (tuberculosis) - (8) - Feb. 1, 2005, 01:32:10 PM EST

A couple of years back, sure. - (admin) - (7) - Feb. 1, 2005, 04:49:46 PM EST

Oh Tomcat 5 - (tuberculosis) - (6) - Feb. 1, 2005, 04:57:38 PM EST

Reminds me of Spolsky's piece on Netscape - (FuManChu) - (5) - Feb. 1, 2005, 11:18:51 PM EST

And I remember disagreeing with it the first time - (ben_tilly) - (4) - Feb. 2, 2005, 01:45:57 AM EST

Makes sense to me. - (Another Scott) - (1) - Feb. 2, 2005, 07:55:37 AM EST

Know what you mean - (tuberculosis) - Feb. 2, 2005, 12:05:04 PM EST

It's a threshold thing - (ChrisR) - (1) - Feb. 2, 2005, 12:22:46 PM EST

And that point is completely true - (ben_tilly) - Feb. 2, 2005, 08:58:01 PM EST

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