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Caching Java Client Objects in 3 tier system
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johnu
)
- (4)
- June 27, 2003, 05:01:04 PM EDT
Re: Caching Java Client Objects in 3 tier system
- (
tuberculosis
)
- (3)
- June 28, 2003, 12:24:31 AM EDT
Re: Caching Java Client Objects in 3 tier system
- (
johnu
)
- (2)
- June 30, 2003, 08:36:46 AM EDT
Using Java Serialization?
- (
tuberculosis
)
- (1)
- June 30, 2003, 02:54:05 PM EDT
Re: Using Java Serialization?
- (
johnu
)
- June 30, 2003, 04:06:30 PM EDT
Maybe we need a new forum to fit my new job. :(
- (
tseliot
)
- (5)
- June 24, 2003, 03:44:57 AM EDT
Use active voice, not passive.
- (
ben_tilly
)
- (4)
- June 24, 2003, 09:35:00 AM EDT
OK, thanks!
- (
tseliot
)
- June 24, 2003, 11:19:38 AM EDT
About the only complaint I have is passive voice.
- (
folkert
)
- June 24, 2003, 02:01:20 PM EDT
Second try, edited passive voice:
- (
tseliot
)
- (1)
- June 24, 2003, 03:15:48 PM EDT
*Much* easier to read
-NT
- (
drewk
)
- June 24, 2003, 03:22:18 PM EDT
Okies all yer programmer types have me completely baffled
- (
boxley
)
- (6)
- June 21, 2003, 01:59:36 AM EDT
It's the same in Real Life (TM).
- (
Another Scott
)
- (5)
- June 21, 2003, 11:00:54 AM EDT
Re: It's the same in Real Life (TM). - wow
- (
deSitter
)
- (4)
- June 21, 2003, 12:50:20 PM EDT
Re: Did Smalltalk have a single creator, like FORTH and APL?
- (
a6l6e6x
)
- June 22, 2003, 12:24:22 AM EDT
Early history of Smalltalk
- (
tuberculosis
)
- (2)
- June 22, 2003, 01:38:15 PM EDT
Thanks for that. Very informative!
-NT
- (
tseliot
)
- (1)
- June 23, 2003, 12:57:48 PM EDT
Re: Thanks for that. Very informative!
- (
deSitter
)
- June 23, 2003, 12:58:48 PM EDT
Advanced programming languages - why are they not used?
- (
Arkadiy
)
- (104)
- June 20, 2003, 10:04:10 AM EDT
question from a non programmer
- (
boxley
)
- (11)
- June 20, 2003, 10:23:14 AM EDT
Second through fourth sentences are a blur
- (
Arkadiy
)
- (10)
- June 20, 2003, 10:40:07 AM EDT
sorry, I went from your specific
- (
boxley
)
- (9)
- June 20, 2003, 10:49:42 AM EDT
Well...
- (
Arkadiy
)
- (8)
- June 20, 2003, 11:14:55 AM EDT
I am not smart enough to detect the difference
- (
boxley
)
- (7)
- June 20, 2003, 11:25:14 AM EDT
In C++, "if" is simple
- (
Arkadiy
)
- (6)
- June 20, 2003, 11:34:47 AM EDT
I think I disagree, maybe
- (
drewk
)
- (5)
- June 20, 2003, 11:51:41 AM EDT
Re: I think I disagree, maybe
- (
Arkadiy
)
- (4)
- June 20, 2003, 12:13:50 PM EDT
I was right
- (
drewk
)
- June 20, 2003, 01:10:29 PM EDT
Re: I think I disagree, maybe
- (
tuberculosis
)
- (2)
- June 21, 2003, 12:09:13 AM EDT
Perl 6 will take that idea farther
- (
ben_tilly
)
- (1)
- June 21, 2003, 04:47:22 PM EDT
+5 Informative.
- (
static
)
- June 23, 2003, 07:53:30 AM EDT
I regard Smalltalk as a teaching language
- (
warmachine
)
- (5)
- June 20, 2003, 08:30:39 PM EDT
Dixit.
-NT
- (
Arkadiy
)
- June 20, 2003, 09:30:12 PM EDT
I regard it as the most powerful production tool I have
- (
tuberculosis
)
- June 21, 2003, 12:19:43 AM EDT
couple of comments
- (
ChrisR
)
- (2)
- June 21, 2003, 03:15:09 AM EDT
Re: couple of comments
- (
warmachine
)
- (1)
- June 21, 2003, 08:10:21 PM EDT
Documentation tool?
- (
ChrisR
)
- June 21, 2003, 11:41:57 PM EDT
Your brain is damaged
- (
tuberculosis
)
- (13)
- June 21, 2003, 12:04:55 AM EDT
I am not saying
- (
Arkadiy
)
- (11)
- June 21, 2003, 02:12:46 PM EDT
Average guy? Come here and say that! :)
- (
warmachine
)
- (6)
- June 21, 2003, 09:29:32 PM EDT
Either you are, or...
- (
Arkadiy
)
- (1)
- June 21, 2003, 11:21:03 PM EDT
Yep! But give it more time.
- (
warmachine
)
- June 22, 2003, 09:33:31 AM EDT
What's this got to do with the price of oil in Baghdad?
- (
tuberculosis
)
- (3)
- June 22, 2003, 12:50:49 AM EDT
Oops! You're right.
- (
warmachine
)
- (2)
- June 22, 2003, 09:01:00 AM EDT
You've missed something I think
- (
tuberculosis
)
- June 22, 2003, 01:43:11 PM EDT
Re: Oops! You're right.
- (
JimWeirich
)
- June 22, 2003, 01:58:49 PM EDT
OK that's true
- (
tuberculosis
)
- (3)
- June 22, 2003, 12:17:49 AM EDT
Smalltalk for Small Tykes
- (
JimWeirich
)
- June 22, 2003, 01:09:55 AM EDT
Wrong sense of "narrative".
- (
Arkadiy
)
- (1)
- June 22, 2003, 12:02:45 PM EDT
(Oops)
- (
Arkadiy
)
- June 22, 2003, 12:07:50 PM EDT
modeling English
- (
tablizer
)
- June 22, 2003, 05:04:41 PM EDT
Re: Advanced programming languages - why are they not used?
- (
deSitter
)
- (1)
- June 21, 2003, 04:18:50 AM EDT
I was going to mention Forth,
- (
Arkadiy
)
- June 21, 2003, 02:15:26 PM EDT
Bad Marketing
- (
tablizer
)
- (69)
- June 21, 2003, 02:38:06 PM EDT
Re-implement these examples, please
- (
ben_tilly
)
- (56)
- June 21, 2003, 04:30:05 PM EDT
Problem description missing
- (
tablizer
)
- (55)
- June 22, 2003, 03:08:05 AM EDT
Problem description
- (
ben_tilly
)
- (54)
- June 22, 2003, 06:33:35 PM EDT
Arrays of arrays? There's your problem.Use relational tables
-NT
- (
tablizer
)
- (53)
- June 22, 2003, 08:24:15 PM EDT
Why am I not surprised that you avoided the question?
- (
ben_tilly
)
- (52)
- June 22, 2003, 08:30:07 PM EDT
hold on, cowboy
- (
tablizer
)
- (51)
- June 22, 2003, 11:56:46 PM EDT
No, you never do say that you are done
- (
ben_tilly
)
- (50)
- June 23, 2003, 07:59:09 AM EDT
Okay, I admit it was too sweeping
- (
tablizer
)
- (49)
- June 23, 2003, 04:38:16 PM EDT
Re: Okay, I admit it was too sweeping
- (
deSitter
)
- June 23, 2003, 04:14:45 PM EDT
Thank you
- (
ben_tilly
)
- (47)
- June 24, 2003, 08:00:46 AM EDT
that is what I am looking for
- (
tablizer
)
- (46)
- June 24, 2003, 04:23:21 PM EDT
Re: that is what I am looking for
- (
admin
)
- (6)
- June 24, 2003, 04:33:53 PM EDT
What's that?
- (
deSitter
)
- (1)
- June 24, 2003, 08:42:36 PM EDT
Re: What's that?
- (
admin
)
- June 24, 2003, 10:00:36 PM EDT
Actually Java Anonymous Inner Classes
- (
tuberculosis
)
- (3)
- June 26, 2003, 12:32:37 AM EDT
If I remember correctly,
- (
Arkadiy
)
- (2)
- June 26, 2003, 11:56:46 AM EDT
Not entirely accurate.
- (
admin
)
- (1)
- June 26, 2003, 12:13:58 PM EDT
Thanks
- (
Arkadiy
)
- June 26, 2003, 12:46:09 PM EDT
ICLRPD (new thread)
- (
CRConrad
)
- June 24, 2003, 04:37:32 PM EDT
How much are you willing to pay?
- (
ben_tilly
)
- (37)
- June 24, 2003, 05:10:46 PM EDT
If you don't have the evidence, then just say so
-NT
- (
tablizer
)
- (36)
- June 24, 2003, 09:25:08 PM EDT
You win, again
- (
ben_tilly
)
- (35)
- June 24, 2003, 11:24:19 PM EDT
Can't ANYBODY ever find a #@!* BIZ example?
-NT
- (
tablizer
)
- (34)
- June 24, 2003, 11:53:17 PM EDT
Ben's given me an idea.
- (
static
)
- (4)
- June 25, 2003, 09:14:37 AM EDT
different "core"?
- (
tablizer
)
- (3)
- June 25, 2003, 09:09:55 PM EDT
That's one way to think of it.
- (
static
)
- (2)
- June 27, 2003, 07:42:08 AM EDT
But if tree traversal was trivial, then it does not matter
- (
tablizer
)
- (1)
- June 28, 2003, 12:27:03 AM EDT
It's a matter of perspective.
- (
static
)
- June 28, 2003, 08:51:24 AM EDT
A TOP example
- (
johnu
)
- (19)
- June 25, 2003, 12:52:13 PM EDT
re: transaction rollback
- (
tablizer
)
- (17)
- June 25, 2003, 08:59:12 PM EDT
Why not just use a closure?
- (
johnu
)
- (16)
- June 27, 2003, 08:33:53 AM EDT
Eval () is a kind of closure
- (
Arkadiy
)
- (15)
- June 27, 2003, 11:28:06 AM EDT
Python supports it...
- (
admin
)
- June 27, 2003, 11:30:47 AM EDT
topic is not about me, Mr. Insult
- (
tablizer
)
- June 28, 2003, 12:15:21 AM EDT
Re: Eval () is NOT a kind of closure
- (
JimWeirich
)
- (12)
- June 28, 2003, 03:45:30 PM EDT
You are right.
- (
Arkadiy
)
- (11)
- July 5, 2003, 01:52:00 PM EDT
All?
- (
ben_tilly
)
- (10)
- July 7, 2003, 03:24:34 PM EDT
I was thinking about
- (
Arkadiy
)
- (9)
- July 7, 2003, 05:27:39 PM EDT
Thought you had missed those :-)
- (
ben_tilly
)
- (8)
- July 7, 2003, 11:28:36 PM EDT
Re: Thought you had missed those :-)
- (
Arkadiy
)
- (7)
- July 8, 2003, 01:12:10 PM EDT
That mostly works
- (
ben_tilly
)
- (6)
- July 8, 2003, 02:03:05 PM EDT
Re: That mostly works
- (
Arkadiy
)
- (3)
- July 8, 2003, 03:40:28 PM EDT
Think we are even then
- (
ben_tilly
)
- (2)
- July 8, 2003, 03:59:45 PM EDT
A function to produce list from range
- (
Arkadiy
)
- (1)
- July 9, 2003, 10:08:08 AM EDT
So?
- (
ben_tilly
)
- July 9, 2003, 12:51:26 PM EDT
Fake Closures
- (
JimWeirich
)
- (1)
- July 10, 2003, 11:34:37 AM EDT
Wow
- (
Arkadiy
)
- July 10, 2003, 12:35:26 PM EDT
Re: A TOP example
- (
JimWeirich
)
- June 28, 2003, 03:55:08 PM EDT
Multivariate Regression Analysis
- (
ChrisR
)
- (8)
- June 25, 2003, 09:28:31 PM EDT
Why not Eval()?
- (
tablizer
)
- (7)
- June 26, 2003, 12:55:37 PM EDT
The problem is that the equations are part of the data
- (
ChrisR
)
- (5)
- June 26, 2003, 02:05:28 PM EDT
I am not following you
- (
tablizer
)
- (4)
- June 27, 2003, 02:02:25 AM EDT
Do you not understand Regression?
- (
ChrisR
)
- (3)
- June 27, 2003, 10:08:47 AM EDT
Eval can be used to compute arbitrary function
- (
Arkadiy
)
- (2)
- June 27, 2003, 11:39:49 AM EDT
Eval is "good enuf" for occassional use.
- (
tablizer
)
- (1)
- June 27, 2003, 01:02:48 PM EDT
You are not familiar with Ruby then
- (
ben_tilly
)
- June 27, 2003, 01:51:44 PM EDT
Of course Eval()?
- (
JimWeirich
)
- June 28, 2003, 03:50:32 PM EDT
Re: Bad Marketing
- (
JimWeirich
)
- (11)
- June 22, 2003, 03:54:51 AM EDT
re: closures
- (
tablizer
)
- (10)
- June 22, 2003, 02:52:13 PM EDT
re: closures
- (
JimWeirich
)
- (9)
- June 23, 2003, 03:31:29 AM EDT
bottom bread
- (
tablizer
)
- (8)
- June 23, 2003, 04:18:57 PM EDT
Still waiting for examples
- (
JimWeirich
)
- (7)
- June 28, 2003, 03:40:27 PM EDT
misunderstanding?
- (
tablizer
)
- (6)
- June 28, 2003, 04:58:06 PM EDT
misunderstanding? ... Now I'm Confused
- (
JimWeirich
)
- (5)
- June 28, 2003, 07:15:40 PM EDT
long blocks
- (
tablizer
)
- (4)
- June 28, 2003, 08:45:24 PM EDT
Back to the Example ...
- (
JimWeirich
)
- (3)
- June 29, 2003, 02:14:36 AM EDT
auto-close
- (
tablizer
)
- (2)
- June 29, 2003, 01:03:49 PM EDT
Exceptions
- (
JimWeirich
)
- (1)
- June 29, 2003, 03:37:50 PM EDT
Warning: Discussing exceptions with me is a loooong topic
-NT
- (
tablizer
)
- June 29, 2003, 10:03:31 PM EDT
Ugliest. Hack. Ever.
- (
tseliot
)
- (10)
- June 18, 2003, 02:45:22 PM EDT
Shared library collisions?
- (
admin
)
- (2)
- June 18, 2003, 02:59:31 PM EDT
Apparently not.
- (
tseliot
)
- (1)
- June 18, 2003, 04:31:03 PM EDT
Ah....
- (
admin
)
- June 18, 2003, 04:58:55 PM EDT
Are these .EXEs yours as developer, i.e. you have source?
- (
a6l6e6x
)
- (1)
- June 18, 2003, 03:18:07 PM EDT
Thanks. My hack gives me time to rewrite from scratch :)
-NT
- (
tseliot
)
- June 18, 2003, 04:38:52 PM EDT
Native mode server?
- (
deSitter
)
- (4)
- June 18, 2003, 03:53:26 PM EDT
Good idea.
-NT
- (
tseliot
)
- June 18, 2003, 04:39:10 PM EDT
Eh? Show your reasoning.
-NT
- (
pwhysall
)
- (2)
- June 18, 2003, 04:45:22 PM EDT
AD has claws in the executable
-NT
- (
deSitter
)
- (1)
- June 20, 2003, 08:54:34 AM EDT
Evidence, please.
- (
pwhysall
)
- June 20, 2003, 11:11:30 AM EDT
TopMind Collectibles
- (
ChrisR
)
- (6)
- June 13, 2003, 09:42:25 PM EDT
That's a good paper
- (
tuberculosis
)
- June 14, 2003, 01:17:17 AM EDT
Well, to be fair, let's point out...
- (
CRConrad
)
- (4)
- June 14, 2003, 04:41:32 PM EDT
Dumb arguments
- (
tablizer
)
- (3)
- June 15, 2003, 02:06:05 AM EDT
Beg to disagree on #3
- (
hnick
)
- (2)
- June 15, 2003, 12:07:50 PM EDT
totally agreed
-NT
- (
deSitter
)
- June 15, 2003, 10:20:27 PM EDT
Doesn't really contradict what I said. Dev.drvrs close to HW
-NT
- (
tablizer
)
- June 16, 2003, 12:16:25 AM EDT
Gosling continues to reinvent the wheel
- (
tuberculosis
)
- June 10, 2003, 02:10:36 AM EDT
Sun to pour millions into promoting misery and ignorance
- (
tuberculosis
)
- (4)
- June 6, 2003, 02:25:40 PM EDT
Quite frankly...
- (
admin
)
- (2)
- June 6, 2003, 02:37:42 PM EDT
Re: Quite frankly...
- (
tuberculosis
)
- (1)
- June 6, 2003, 05:53:49 PM EDT
Sure they can.
- (
admin
)
- June 6, 2003, 11:40:18 PM EDT
the prettiest thing on that link was at the bottom
- (
boxley
)
- June 6, 2003, 03:09:06 PM EDT
Series on programming the Atari 2600 - count them cycles!
- (
SpiceWare
)
- June 4, 2003, 02:35:33 PM EDT
Kill the Methodologists
- (
tuberculosis
)
- (69)
- June 3, 2003, 02:07:46 PM EDT
Skill: the anti-Manager
- (
jb4
)
- (1)
- June 3, 2003, 07:08:55 PM EDT
Re: Skill: the anti-Manager
- (
orion
)
- June 3, 2003, 08:06:30 PM EDT
Re: Kill the Methodologists
- (
systems
)
- (61)
- June 3, 2003, 09:08:51 PM EDT
Thanks for joining in, comments
- (
boxley
)
- June 4, 2003, 09:06:24 AM EDT
OT: Text formatting
- (
pwhysall
)
- June 4, 2003, 10:52:18 AM EDT
Most Methodologies have their basis in fantasy
- (
tuberculosis
)
- (6)
- June 4, 2003, 01:37:44 PM EDT
Let's see if I can summarize
- (
drewk
)
- (4)
- June 4, 2003, 01:46:47 PM EDT
Basically, yeah
- (
tuberculosis
)
- (3)
- June 4, 2003, 02:44:00 PM EDT
Which brings us to the essential tension in SW today:
- (
tseliot
)
- June 4, 2003, 07:38:28 PM EDT
Re: Basically, yeah
- (
deSitter
)
- (1)
- June 4, 2003, 09:58:48 PM EDT
Ummm...
- (
ben_tilly
)
- June 4, 2003, 11:29:17 PM EDT
There's nothing wrong with Methodology...
- (
Simon_Jester
)
- June 5, 2003, 06:07:42 PM EDT
Ahh, a PHB in training.
- (
broomberg
)
- (6)
- June 4, 2003, 11:36:22 PM EDT
Programming is more art than science.
- (
static
)
- (1)
- June 6, 2003, 08:25:26 AM EDT
I know every time I want some programming done
- (
boxley
)
- June 6, 2003, 08:42:10 AM EDT
This is the *only* reason I'm still a programmer
- (
tseliot
)
- (3)
- June 6, 2003, 11:41:36 AM EDT
So you're good at forgetting things
- (
drewk
)
- (2)
- June 6, 2003, 11:47:39 AM EDT
Oh stop yerself!
- (
jb4
)
- June 6, 2003, 01:39:03 PM EDT
That's easy
- (
ben_tilly
)
- June 7, 2003, 01:22:15 AM EDT
Sorry, you're misinformed.
- (
admin
)
- (44)
- June 5, 2003, 10:15:58 AM EDT
"You can't coach height"
- (
drewk
)
- (7)
- June 5, 2003, 11:27:17 AM EDT
Exactly. And while we're on the subject...
- (
admin
)
- (6)
- June 5, 2003, 11:29:53 AM EDT
No kidding
- (
drewk
)
- (3)
- June 5, 2003, 11:38:25 AM EDT
heck, i got one dumber than a rock but gifted
- (
boxley
)
- (2)
- June 5, 2003, 12:15:15 PM EDT
Not the same.
- (
admin
)
- (1)
- June 5, 2003, 12:17:19 PM EDT
It is also used in the common tongue
- (
boxley
)
- June 5, 2003, 12:22:10 PM EDT
Doubt mine qualify as gifted...
- (
ChrisR
)
- June 5, 2003, 12:28:57 PM EDT
I got one of each
- (
broomberg
)
- June 5, 2003, 12:56:19 PM EDT
The problem with discussing elite programmers...
- (
ChrisR
)
- (5)
- June 5, 2003, 12:47:25 PM EDT
Possible
- (
broomberg
)
- (4)
- June 5, 2003, 01:14:45 PM EDT
I think I've reached that point
- (
drewk
)
- (2)
- June 5, 2003, 01:31:18 PM EDT
The first thing I do now...
- (
admin
)
- June 5, 2003, 01:36:48 PM EDT
I worked with many real 10%ers
- (
boxley
)
- June 5, 2003, 04:23:59 PM EDT
Its situational to some extent
- (
tuberculosis
)
- June 5, 2003, 04:03:56 PM EDT
Actually, lazy is better
- (
broomberg
)
- (2)
- June 5, 2003, 12:49:31 PM EDT
That's "responsibly lazy".
- (
admin
)
- June 5, 2003, 01:02:49 PM EDT
Wall in the Camel book:
- (
tseliot
)
- June 5, 2003, 05:56:12 PM EDT
Re: Sorry, you're misinformed.
- (
pwhysall
)
- (2)
- June 6, 2003, 02:46:48 AM EDT
Undoubtedly.
- (
admin
)
- (1)
- June 6, 2003, 08:48:59 AM EDT
Hmm. "curious", eh?
- (
static
)
- June 6, 2003, 08:54:08 AM EDT
Double post.
-NT
- (
pwhysall
)
- June 6, 2003, 02:52:16 AM EDT
Talent how measured?
- (
tablizer
)
- (22)
- June 10, 2003, 06:32:54 PM EDT
Point == missed.
- (
admin
)
- (21)
- June 10, 2003, 06:34:29 PM EDT
Software development is like driving
- (
tablizer
)
- (20)
- June 10, 2003, 10:02:50 PM EDT
Uhhh...
- (
Yendor
)
- (18)
- June 10, 2003, 10:45:49 PM EDT
ANYONE is a little too strong a requirement! :)
- (
a6l6e6x
)
- (1)
- June 11, 2003, 01:15:52 AM EDT
Well, OK...
- (
Yendor
)
- June 11, 2003, 01:33:26 AM EDT
Audience
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tablizer
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- (15)
- June 11, 2003, 02:26:38 PM EDT
Two words...
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Yendor
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- (7)
- June 11, 2003, 04:14:10 PM EDT
Another Two Words.
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folkert
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- June 11, 2003, 04:26:47 PM EDT
Megadittos
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tjsinclair
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- June 11, 2003, 06:07:02 PM EDT
Most places i've been don't have unit tests
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tablizer
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- (4)
- June 12, 2003, 02:31:04 AM EDT
The point being...
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folkert
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- (3)
- June 12, 2003, 08:26:44 AM EDT
OT - new LRPDism? (new thread)
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CRConrad
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- June 12, 2003, 03:24:24 PM EDT
regarding unit testing
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tablizer
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- (1)
- June 12, 2003, 03:30:57 PM EDT
Re: regarding unit testing
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admin
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- June 12, 2003, 03:35:56 PM EDT
Don' you be talkin' about 'abstraction'...
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jb4
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- (6)
- June 11, 2003, 06:18:08 PM EDT
Bull. Relational is more abstract than OO
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tablizer
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- (5)
- June 12, 2003, 02:32:03 AM EDT
And tables are nothing but...
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jb4
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- (4)
- June 12, 2003, 06:09:32 PM EDT
Relational does not dictate underlying implementation
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tablizer
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- (3)
- June 13, 2003, 02:08:29 AM EDT
Bryce, what ARE you talking about
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jb4
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- (2)
- June 16, 2003, 04:28:23 PM EDT
You misunderstood me
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tablizer
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- (1)
- June 17, 2003, 02:25:34 AM EDT
And *why* do you think that happens all the time...? (new thread)
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CRConrad
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- June 17, 2003, 03:27:56 AM EDT
Most software developers are wrong...
-NT
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admin
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- June 10, 2003, 10:52:37 PM EDT
Nice
-NT
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deSitter
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- June 3, 2003, 09:50:36 PM EDT
Robert C Martin concurs
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tuberculosis
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- (2)
- June 3, 2003, 10:34:56 PM EDT
*snort* My PFY tells me that evey day
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tseliot
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- (1)
- June 4, 2003, 12:59:08 AM EDT
*Lots* of people have told me that
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drewk
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- June 4, 2003, 08:10:29 AM EDT
HOLEEECHIT!
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folkert
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- June 4, 2003, 08:35:58 PM EDT
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