Well, to be fair, let's point out...

Post #106,142 by CRConrad 6/14/03 4:41:32 PM Reply	Well, to be fair, let's point out... ...that there is a page on the opposite viewpoint, too: "[link\|http://www.dreamsongs.com/ObjectsHaveNotFailedNarr.html\|Objects Have Not Failed]". [link\|mailto:MyUserId@MyISP.CountryCode\|Christian R. Conrad] (I live in Finland, and my e-mail in-box is at the Saunalahti company.) Your lies are of Microsoftian Scale and boring to boot. Your 'depression' may be the closest you ever come to recognizing truth: you have no 'inferiority complex', you are inferior - and something inside you recognizes this. - [link\|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=71575\|Ashton Brown]
Post #106,160 by tablizer 6/15/03 2:06:05 AM Reply	Dumb arguments Paraphrased: 1. "See how popular static-typed OOP is" Popularity and usability are not necessarily related. Witness Windows popularity over OS/2, Mac, Linux, etc. Besides, many OO fans say that actual Java code being written is often "too procedural". 2. "Naked arrays are messy" Yes, they are. That is why we use RDBMS more now. It uses bad procedural techniques to compare to decent OOP (if there is such a thing). 3. "C++ is better than C" No duh. C sucks. It is no more the pinnacle of procedural languages than Yugo's are the pinnacle of passenger cars. C is popular mostly for its hardware-friendly traits, not its software engineering traits. ________________ oop.ismad.com
Post #106,168 by hnick 6/15/03 12:07:50 PM Reply	Beg to disagree on #3 C doesn't suck. It is quite nice for what it was designed for. It is essentially warmed over PDP assembly language that, being slightly older than god, has evolved a socialized and well defined user interface. It may not be appropriate for a large project. Consider using the proper tool for the job at hand. An air wrench is good for removing the lug nuts from your car, but it would kill the cones of your bicycle wheels. I write mostly driver level code. C is just ducky for me. I have been using it for an embarrassingly long time and it feels like a long-term lover to me; I'm aware of zits and wrinkles and no longer see them as meaningful. If I did a lot of large hairy user level apps, I would certainly use a different language. I am absolutely certain that your mileage will vary\ufffd Cheers, Hugh
Post #106,183 by deSitter 6/15/03 10:20:27 PM Reply	totally agreed -drl
Post #106,190 by tablizer 6/16/03 12:16:25 AM Reply	Doesn't really contradict what I said. Dev.drvrs close to HW ________________ oop.ismad.com

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