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     Buggy .NET components... - (admin) - (37)
         I see a pattern.... - (slugbug) - (33)
             Re: I see a pattern.... - (deSitter) - (32)
                 Unfortunately.... - (slugbug) - (31)
                     Integration testing... - (admin) - (30)
                         Anybody given Mono a swing? - (tuberculosis) - (8)
                             Hasn't caught up to Microsoft C# yet - (orion) - (1)
                                 It won't matter much - (tuberculosis)
                             Haven't had it since I was a teenager. -NT - (Steve Lowe) - (1)
                                 I thought that was one of those "have it for life" things. -NT - (admin)
                             The problem being, of course... - (admin) - (2)
                                 So where does it fit - (tuberculosis) - (1)
                                     Front-end HTML generation - (admin)
                             Why **** with Mono and .NET when I've got: - (FuManChu)
                         Re: Integration testing... - (deSitter)
                         On stability, scalability, and IT today.... - (slugbug) - (19)
                             IT today - (orion)
                             Blame it on the boom - (tuberculosis) - (16)
                                 What can you do? Build wooden boats for a living? - (orion)
                                 Not just the code.. recall Tufte's brilliant deconstruction - (Ashton) - (8)
                                     Formula is for babies. - (FuManChu) - (7)
                                         Thou sayest (only better) - (Ashton)
                                         Have you used MS Project? - (drewk) - (4)
                                             Yes and it is a joke - (tuberculosis) - (3)
                                                 I only want it for one thing - (drewk) - (1)
                                                     Link's broken -NT - (tuberculosis)
                                                 The Planning Game - (JimWeirich)
                                         Excellent point -NT - (deSitter)
                                 It is all too easy... - (slugbug) - (5)
                                     Re: It is all too easy... - (deSitter)
                                     Oh well on that front - (tuberculosis) - (2)
                                         Astounding - (deSitter)
                                         Try Telcordia in Lisle Illinois - (boxley)
                                     How things have changed over the years - (orion)
                             Java's not much better - (bluke)
         Not ready for prime time, .NET - (orion) - (2)
             .Net - (mmoffitt) - (1)
                 800 pound gorilla - (orion)
     Python 2.3 out as of July 29, 2003 - (FuManChu)
     Cool Python trick for persistence options - (FuManChu)
     Python, mod_python, and statistics - (FuManChu) - (3)
         A few solutions: - (admin) - (2)
             Knew I could count on you, Scott :) - (FuManChu) - (1)
                 Just imports the namespace. - (admin)
     Another Java article perpetuates FUD about Smalltalk - (bluke) - (10)
         Simple answer - (drewk)
         Re: Another Java article perpetuates FUD about Smalltalk - (JimWeirich) - (6)
             My impression - (bluke) - (3)
                 Er... - (Yendor) - (2)
                     Because the author claimed ... - (bluke)
                     99.9% of the speed improvement in Java... - (ChrisR)
             The fact is that for most business systems ... - (bluke)
             Personal experience for me - (tuberculosis)
         Re: Another Java article perpetuates FUD about Smalltalk - (dshellman)
         Lost cause, give up. Can't beat PHB's - (tablizer)
     Message Object Oriented vs Function Object Oriented - (JimWeirich) - (71)
         It's not so much a Language issue... - (ChrisR) - (28)
             Mind Games - (JimWeirich) - (27)
                 The biggest difference is how one treats the interaction - (ChrisR) - (26)
                     Now a Language Issue again - (JimWeirich) - (25)
                         Is it "missing methods" or "invalid messages" it handles? - (CRConrad) - (23)
                             Both. - (admin) - (22)
                                 Sorry, I don't think you quite understood what I meant. - (CRConrad) - (21)
                                     Needlessly pedantic, IMO. - (admin) - (20)
                                         OK, so why don't we do it that way, then... - (CRConrad) - (8)
                                             Lose the chip... -NT - (admin) - (3)
                                                 OK, bye, then. (Heard anything from Addison, lately?) -NT - (CRConrad) - (2)
                                                     Suit yourself. -NT - (admin)
                                                     You can do it (new thread) - (orion)
                                             FOO bad. MOO good. - (ChrisR) - (2)
                                                 Mooooooo. -NT - (admin)
                                                 Re: FOO bad. MOO good. - (JimWeirich)
                                             Re: OK, so why don't we do it that way, then... - (JimWeirich)
                                         Method VS Message - (JimWeirich) - (10)
                                             Sure. -NT - (admin)
                                             Re: Method VS Message - (tuberculosis) - (8)
                                                 Re: Method VS Message - (deSitter) - (7)
                                                     Didn't you finish that smalltalk history doc Todd showed us? - (FuManChu) - (1)
                                                         Re: Didn't you finish that smalltalk history doc Todd showed - (deSitter)
                                                     In theory yes, in practice no - (bluke) - (4)
                                                         You must cheat - but you must not get caught - (tuberculosis) - (3)
                                                             Yes exactly - (bluke) - (2)
                                                                 Hmmm sounds as if - (Ashton) - (1)
                                                                     Not *so* clever - (tuberculosis)
                         At that level, it is a language issue... - (ChrisR)
         DoesNotUnderstand - (tuberculosis) - (6)
             Reified Messages - (JimWeirich) - (1)
                 Sounds about right to me -NT - (tuberculosis)
             Re: DoesNotUnderstand - (deSitter) - (3)
                 nil is an object -NT - (admin) - (2)
                     Re: nil is an object - (deSitter) - (1)
                         Re: nil is an object - (bluke)
         ICLRPD - (static)
         It is a fundamental difference - (bluke) - (30)
             More Questions - (JimWeirich) - (9)
                 Re: More Questions - (bluke) - (3)
                     Re: More Questions - (JimWeirich) - (2)
                         It relates more to the mindset - (bluke)
                         In past discussions with Freep... - (ChrisR)
                 Where does polymorphism fit in? - (static) - (1)
                     Polymorphism via inheritance/interface - (ChrisR)
                 Example - (tuberculosis) - (1)
                     Re: Example - (JimWeirich)
                 Statically Typed Smalltalk - (tuberculosis)
             Statically Typed MOO - (JimWeirich) - (19)
                 The other possible avenue - (ChrisR) - (18)
                     Do you know how they do that? - (bluke) - (17)
                         Compiler generates the necessary calls - (ChrisR)
                         AspectJ is code generation - (tuberculosis) - (15)
                             A comment and a question ... - (JimWeirich) - (12)
                                 Not really - (tuberculosis) - (11)
                                     Pushing the limits of Blanchard's Law - (JimWeirich) - (10)
                                         I don't think the basic argument is so much - (ChrisR) - (8)
                                             Re: I don't think the basic argument is so much - (JimWeirich) - (7)
                                                 Should probably let Todd defend his Laws....but.... :-) - (ChrisR) - (6)
                                                     Still sounds arbitrary ... - (JimWeirich) - (5)
                                                         On par with "Eval" - (ChrisR) - (1)
                                                             Well said -NT - (tuberculosis)
                                                         No its not - (tuberculosis) - (2)
                                                             Ok, I get it. - (JimWeirich) - (1)
                                                                 Yep -NT - (tuberculosis)
                                         Oh yeah - (FuManChu)
                             What is your reasoning for this "law"? - (ben_tilly) - (1)
                                 OT re: coming to this thread late - (drewk)
         Litmus Test - (JimWeirich) - (1)
             Yes and No - (bluke)
         Interesting comp.lang.smalltalk thread on this - (bluke)
     Great OO arguement closer - (folkert) - (33)
         Re: Great OO arguement closer - (JimWeirich) - (32)
             Danke... -NT - (folkert)
             Huh? - (ben_tilly) - (29)
                 Re: Huh? - (JimWeirich) - (28)
                     Dunno, but I have a guess... - (CRConrad) - (27)
                         Guaranteed destructor timing explained - (ben_tilly) - (26)
                             OK, Jim, add one more: Delphi. (And rename the concept!) - (CRConrad) - (25)
                                 Introducing The Magic Of HTML - (pwhysall) - (11)
                                     Yeah, yeah, but not when I'm in a hurry. - (CRConrad) - (1)
                                         Well, slow down, then. - (pwhysall)
                                     Asterisks don't bother me -NT - (tablizer) - (8)
                                         It -NT - (deSitter)
                                         It -NT - (deSitter) - (6)
                                             STOP SAYING THE WORD!! -NT - (admin) - (4)
                                                 Suffice to say... - (FuManChu) - (3)
                                                     was it Nye or Ni? - (Simon_Jester) - (2)
                                                         Ni! - (pwhysall) - (1)
                                                             Sh! -NT - (FuManChu)
                                             WTF? -NT - (deSitter)
                                 Re: OK, Jim, add one more: Delphi. (And rename the concept!) - (JimWeirich) - (9)
                                     Ah; the problem seems to be I didn't take into account... - (CRConrad) - (8)
                                         Wow, are we in the same universe? - (JimWeirich) - (7)
                                             (... continuing from the previous message) - (JimWeirich) - (6)
                                                 Combining replies into a single (bigger) slice of humble pie - (CRConrad) - (5)
                                                     Lots of Comments ... - (JimWeirich)
                                                     You remind me of the blub paradox - (ben_tilly) - (3)
                                                         Speaking of PL History - (ChrisR) - (2)
                                                             Kay's thinking - (tuberculosis) - (1)
                                                                 xlnt -NT - (deSitter)
                                 Why are you so upset? - (ben_tilly) - (2)
                                     Caw, caw: My own fault, mostly, mis-remembering the thread. - (CRConrad) - (1)
                                         Just responding to the GC point... - (ben_tilly)
             Scope exit vs. object cleanup - (admin)
     Don't be a sharecropper - (orion) - (1)
         Read It Again. Then read below. -NT - (Ashton)
     Project Rave - (orion) - (7)
         Raised eyebrow... - (Simon_Jester) - (6)
             Re: Raised eyebrow... - (deSitter) - (5)
                 Theories and principals - (orion) - (4)
                     In that direction - (Ashton) - (3)
                         I have to at least try - (orion) - (2)
                             Try not! Do or do not, there is no try! - Yoda - (tuberculosis) - (1)
                                 I have love of programming, that isn't the problem - (orion)
     Quick and dirty, verses correct and proper programming - (orion) - (6)
         False dichotomy - (tuberculosis) - (4)
             inside out vs. top down -NT - (deSitter) - (2)
                 More like "seat of your pants programming" - (orion) - (1)
                     Not every building needs an architect - (tuberculosis)
             Quite. - (static)
         Cutting the managers out of the equation... - (ChrisR)
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