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Buggy .NET components...
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admin
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- July 30, 2003, 09:42:30 PM EDT
I see a pattern....
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slugbug
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- (33)
- July 30, 2003, 11:36:45 PM EDT
Re: I see a pattern....
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deSitter
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- (32)
- July 31, 2003, 02:24:28 AM EDT
Unfortunately....
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slugbug
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- (31)
- July 31, 2003, 10:28:34 AM EDT
Integration testing...
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admin
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- (30)
- July 31, 2003, 11:19:12 AM EDT
Anybody given Mono a swing?
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tuberculosis
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- (8)
- Aug. 21, 2007, 06:25:12 AM EDT
Hasn't caught up to Microsoft C# yet
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orion
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- (1)
- July 31, 2003, 06:22:56 PM EDT
It won't matter much
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tuberculosis
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- Aug. 21, 2007, 06:25:27 AM EDT
Haven't had it since I was a teenager.
-NT
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Steve Lowe
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- (1)
- July 31, 2003, 06:23:50 PM EDT
I thought that was one of those "have it for life" things.
-NT
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admin
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- July 31, 2003, 06:44:41 PM EDT
The problem being, of course...
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admin
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- (2)
- July 31, 2003, 06:45:41 PM EDT
So where does it fit
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tuberculosis
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- (1)
- Aug. 21, 2007, 06:29:07 AM EDT
Front-end HTML generation
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admin
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- Aug. 1, 2003, 10:13:29 PM EDT
Why **** with Mono and .NET when I've got:
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FuManChu
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- Aug. 1, 2003, 02:57:33 AM EDT
Re: Integration testing...
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deSitter
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- Aug. 2, 2003, 02:01:01 AM EDT
On stability, scalability, and IT today....
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slugbug
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- (19)
- Aug. 3, 2003, 02:27:35 PM EDT
IT today
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orion
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- Aug. 3, 2003, 02:59:54 PM EDT
Blame it on the boom
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tuberculosis
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- (16)
- Aug. 21, 2007, 06:30:35 AM EDT
What can you do? Build wooden boats for a living?
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orion
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- Aug. 3, 2003, 06:27:48 PM EDT
Not just the code.. recall Tufte's brilliant deconstruction
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Ashton
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- (8)
- Aug. 3, 2003, 06:33:36 PM EDT
Formula is for babies.
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FuManChu
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- (7)
- Aug. 3, 2003, 07:49:58 PM EDT
Thou sayest (only better)
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Ashton
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- Aug. 4, 2003, 06:46:08 AM EDT
Have you used MS Project?
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drewk
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- (4)
- Aug. 4, 2003, 10:05:32 AM EDT
Yes and it is a joke
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tuberculosis
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- (3)
- Aug. 21, 2007, 06:31:15 AM EDT
I only want it for one thing
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drewk
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- (1)
- Aug. 4, 2003, 10:48:40 AM EDT
Link's broken
-NT
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tuberculosis
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- Aug. 21, 2007, 06:34:16 AM EDT
The Planning Game
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JimWeirich
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- Aug. 4, 2003, 07:41:34 PM EDT
Excellent point
-NT
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deSitter
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- Aug. 4, 2003, 10:49:11 AM EDT
It is all too easy...
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slugbug
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- (5)
- Aug. 4, 2003, 03:12:48 PM EDT
Re: It is all too easy...
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deSitter
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- Aug. 4, 2003, 03:18:39 PM EDT
Oh well on that front
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tuberculosis
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- (2)
- Aug. 21, 2007, 06:34:03 AM EDT
Astounding
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deSitter
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- Aug. 4, 2003, 04:06:28 PM EDT
Try Telcordia in Lisle Illinois
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boxley
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- Aug. 4, 2003, 05:43:40 PM EDT
How things have changed over the years
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orion
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- Aug. 4, 2003, 05:08:47 PM EDT
Java's not much better
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bluke
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- Aug. 4, 2003, 07:42:10 AM EDT
Not ready for prime time, .NET
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orion
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- (2)
- July 31, 2003, 12:11:26 AM EDT
.Net
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mmoffitt
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- (1)
- July 31, 2003, 09:27:21 AM EDT
800 pound gorilla
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orion
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- July 31, 2003, 12:56:27 PM EDT
Python 2.3 out as of July 29, 2003
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FuManChu
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- July 30, 2003, 01:06:27 PM EDT
Cool Python trick for persistence options
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FuManChu
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- July 29, 2003, 06:39:30 PM EDT
Python, mod_python, and statistics
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FuManChu
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- (3)
- July 29, 2003, 02:20:49 AM EDT
A few solutions:
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admin
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- (2)
- July 29, 2003, 09:30:26 AM EDT
Knew I could count on you, Scott :)
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FuManChu
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- (1)
- July 29, 2003, 11:03:12 AM EDT
Just imports the namespace.
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admin
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- July 29, 2003, 11:40:34 AM EDT
Another Java article perpetuates FUD about Smalltalk
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bluke
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- (10)
- July 28, 2003, 08:24:58 AM EDT
Simple answer
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drewk
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- July 28, 2003, 08:55:41 AM EDT
Re: Another Java article perpetuates FUD about Smalltalk
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JimWeirich
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- July 28, 2003, 10:08:55 AM EDT
My impression
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bluke
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- July 28, 2003, 11:12:31 AM EDT
Er...
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Yendor
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- (2)
- July 28, 2003, 11:14:26 AM EDT
Because the author claimed ...
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bluke
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- July 28, 2003, 11:22:20 AM EDT
99.9% of the speed improvement in Java...
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ChrisR
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- July 28, 2003, 11:27:35 AM EDT
The fact is that for most business systems ...
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bluke
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- July 28, 2003, 11:26:38 AM EDT
Personal experience for me
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tuberculosis
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- Aug. 21, 2007, 06:07:36 AM EDT
Re: Another Java article perpetuates FUD about Smalltalk
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dshellman
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- July 28, 2003, 12:54:36 PM EDT
Lost cause, give up. Can't beat PHB's
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tablizer
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- July 29, 2003, 01:06:22 AM EDT
Message Object Oriented vs Function Object Oriented
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JimWeirich
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- July 21, 2003, 12:57:05 PM EDT
It's not so much a Language issue...
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ChrisR
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- (28)
- July 21, 2003, 01:30:46 PM EDT
Mind Games
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JimWeirich
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- (27)
- July 21, 2003, 03:35:18 PM EDT
The biggest difference is how one treats the interaction
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ChrisR
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- (26)
- July 21, 2003, 04:30:20 PM EDT
Now a Language Issue again
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JimWeirich
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- (25)
- July 21, 2003, 04:52:33 PM EDT
Is it "missing methods" or "invalid messages" it handles?
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CRConrad
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- (23)
- July 21, 2003, 05:04:43 PM EDT
Both.
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admin
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- (22)
- July 21, 2003, 05:08:28 PM EDT
Sorry, I don't think you quite understood what I meant.
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CRConrad
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- (21)
- July 21, 2003, 05:28:58 PM EDT
Needlessly pedantic, IMO.
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admin
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- (20)
- July 21, 2003, 05:32:53 PM EDT
OK, so why don't we do it that way, then...
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CRConrad
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- (8)
- July 21, 2003, 05:47:53 PM EDT
Lose the chip...
-NT
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admin
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- (3)
- July 21, 2003, 05:49:48 PM EDT
OK, bye, then. (Heard anything from Addison, lately?)
-NT
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CRConrad
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- (2)
- July 21, 2003, 06:02:31 PM EDT
Suit yourself.
-NT
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admin
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- July 21, 2003, 06:03:29 PM EDT
You can do it (new thread)
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orion
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- July 21, 2003, 07:41:37 PM EDT
FOO bad. MOO good.
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ChrisR
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- (2)
- July 21, 2003, 06:12:31 PM EDT
Mooooooo.
-NT
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admin
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- July 21, 2003, 06:16:14 PM EDT
Re: FOO bad. MOO good.
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JimWeirich
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- July 21, 2003, 06:31:36 PM EDT
Re: OK, so why don't we do it that way, then...
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JimWeirich
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- July 21, 2003, 06:35:39 PM EDT
Method VS Message
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JimWeirich
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- July 21, 2003, 06:42:26 PM EDT
Sure.
-NT
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admin
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- July 21, 2003, 06:56:59 PM EDT
Re: Method VS Message
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tuberculosis
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- (8)
- Aug. 21, 2007, 05:42:37 AM EDT
Re: Method VS Message
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deSitter
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- (7)
- July 21, 2003, 11:42:24 PM EDT
Didn't you finish that smalltalk history doc Todd showed us?
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FuManChu
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- (1)
- July 22, 2003, 12:49:34 AM EDT
Re: Didn't you finish that smalltalk history doc Todd showed
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deSitter
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- July 22, 2003, 12:59:53 AM EDT
In theory yes, in practice no
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bluke
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- (4)
- July 22, 2003, 06:01:52 AM EDT
You must cheat - but you must not get caught
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tuberculosis
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- (3)
- Aug. 21, 2007, 05:44:33 AM EDT
Yes exactly
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bluke
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- (2)
- July 22, 2003, 10:31:22 AM EDT
Hmmm sounds as if
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Ashton
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- (1)
- July 22, 2003, 09:19:49 PM EDT
Not *so* clever
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tuberculosis
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- Aug. 21, 2007, 05:51:46 AM EDT
At that level, it is a language issue...
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ChrisR
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- July 21, 2003, 05:32:00 PM EDT
DoesNotUnderstand
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tuberculosis
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- (6)
- Aug. 21, 2007, 05:42:14 AM EDT
Reified Messages
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JimWeirich
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- (1)
- July 21, 2003, 06:50:52 PM EDT
Sounds about right to me
-NT
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tuberculosis
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- Aug. 21, 2007, 05:42:32 AM EDT
Re: DoesNotUnderstand
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deSitter
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- (3)
- July 21, 2003, 11:45:13 PM EDT
nil is an object
-NT
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admin
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- (2)
- July 22, 2003, 08:04:50 AM EDT
Re: nil is an object
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deSitter
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- (1)
- July 22, 2003, 10:07:10 AM EDT
Re: nil is an object
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bluke
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- July 22, 2003, 10:49:10 AM EDT
ICLRPD
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static
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- July 21, 2003, 10:53:46 PM EDT
It is a fundamental difference
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bluke
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- (30)
- July 22, 2003, 05:56:45 AM EDT
More Questions
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JimWeirich
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- (9)
- July 22, 2003, 06:28:12 AM EDT
Re: More Questions
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bluke
)
- (3)
- July 22, 2003, 07:23:18 AM EDT
Re: More Questions
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JimWeirich
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- (2)
- July 22, 2003, 07:54:36 AM EDT
It relates more to the mindset
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bluke
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- July 22, 2003, 08:03:03 AM EDT
In past discussions with Freep...
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ChrisR
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- July 22, 2003, 09:52:34 AM EDT
Where does polymorphism fit in?
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static
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- (1)
- July 22, 2003, 08:42:30 AM EDT
Polymorphism via inheritance/interface
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ChrisR
)
- July 22, 2003, 09:37:43 AM EDT
Example
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tuberculosis
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- (1)
- Aug. 21, 2007, 05:45:22 AM EDT
Re: Example
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JimWeirich
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- July 22, 2003, 11:45:27 AM EDT
Statically Typed Smalltalk
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tuberculosis
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- Aug. 21, 2007, 05:45:29 AM EDT
Statically Typed MOO
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JimWeirich
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- (19)
- July 22, 2003, 10:41:22 AM EDT
The other possible avenue
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ChrisR
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- (18)
- July 22, 2003, 10:47:24 AM EDT
Do you know how they do that?
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bluke
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- (17)
- July 22, 2003, 10:54:10 AM EDT
Compiler generates the necessary calls
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ChrisR
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- July 22, 2003, 11:02:54 AM EDT
AspectJ is code generation
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tuberculosis
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- (15)
- Aug. 21, 2007, 05:46:10 AM EDT
A comment and a question ...
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JimWeirich
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- (12)
- July 22, 2003, 02:19:07 PM EDT
Not really
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tuberculosis
)
- (11)
- Aug. 21, 2007, 05:46:27 AM EDT
Pushing the limits of Blanchard's Law
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JimWeirich
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- (10)
- July 22, 2003, 03:57:21 PM EDT
I don't think the basic argument is so much
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ChrisR
)
- (8)
- July 22, 2003, 04:09:32 PM EDT
Re: I don't think the basic argument is so much
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JimWeirich
)
- (7)
- July 22, 2003, 04:35:10 PM EDT
Should probably let Todd defend his Laws....but.... :-)
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ChrisR
)
- (6)
- July 22, 2003, 05:03:54 PM EDT
Still sounds arbitrary ...
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JimWeirich
)
- (5)
- July 22, 2003, 05:14:31 PM EDT
On par with "Eval"
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ChrisR
)
- (1)
- July 22, 2003, 05:20:45 PM EDT
Well said
-NT
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tuberculosis
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- Aug. 21, 2007, 05:51:08 AM EDT
No its not
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tuberculosis
)
- (2)
- Aug. 21, 2007, 05:51:13 AM EDT
Ok, I get it.
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JimWeirich
)
- (1)
- July 22, 2003, 07:48:18 PM EDT
Yep
-NT
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tuberculosis
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- Aug. 21, 2007, 05:51:33 AM EDT
Oh yeah
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FuManChu
)
- July 22, 2003, 04:28:15 PM EDT
What is your reasoning for this "law"?
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ben_tilly
)
- (1)
- Sept. 21, 2003, 05:20:53 PM EDT
OT re: coming to this thread late
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drewk
)
- Sept. 22, 2003, 10:32:55 AM EDT
Litmus Test
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JimWeirich
)
- (1)
- July 22, 2003, 07:03:41 AM EDT
Yes and No
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bluke
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- July 22, 2003, 07:34:46 AM EDT
Interesting comp.lang.smalltalk thread on this
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bluke
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- July 22, 2003, 08:16:51 AM EDT
Great OO arguement closer
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folkert
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- (33)
- July 16, 2003, 01:07:57 PM EDT
Re: Great OO arguement closer
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JimWeirich
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- (32)
- July 16, 2003, 02:06:39 PM EDT
Danke...
-NT
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folkert
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- July 16, 2003, 02:35:55 PM EDT
Huh?
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ben_tilly
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- (29)
- July 16, 2003, 04:10:00 PM EDT
Re: Huh?
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JimWeirich
)
- (28)
- July 16, 2003, 06:36:05 PM EDT
Dunno, but I have a guess...
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CRConrad
)
- (27)
- July 16, 2003, 08:01:47 PM EDT
Guaranteed destructor timing explained
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ben_tilly
)
- (26)
- July 16, 2003, 09:06:08 PM EDT
OK, Jim, add one more: Delphi. (And rename the concept!)
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CRConrad
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- (25)
- July 17, 2003, 07:54:15 AM EDT
Introducing The Magic Of HTML
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pwhysall
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- (11)
- July 17, 2003, 07:39:43 AM EDT
Yeah, yeah, but not when I'm in a hurry.
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CRConrad
)
- (1)
- July 17, 2003, 07:55:58 AM EDT
Well, slow down, then.
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pwhysall
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- July 17, 2003, 07:58:17 AM EDT
Asterisks don't bother me
-NT
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tablizer
)
- (8)
- July 19, 2003, 12:00:19 AM EDT
It
-NT
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deSitter
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- July 19, 2003, 09:54:18 AM EDT
It
-NT
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deSitter
)
- (6)
- July 19, 2003, 09:54:26 AM EDT
STOP SAYING THE WORD!!
-NT
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admin
)
- (4)
- July 19, 2003, 09:55:01 AM EDT
Suffice to say...
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FuManChu
)
- (3)
- July 19, 2003, 12:41:00 PM EDT
was it Nye or Ni?
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Simon_Jester
)
- (2)
- July 20, 2003, 10:02:43 PM EDT
Ni!
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pwhysall
)
- (1)
- July 21, 2003, 03:16:27 AM EDT
Sh!
-NT
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FuManChu
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- July 21, 2003, 11:05:44 AM EDT
WTF?
-NT
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deSitter
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- July 19, 2003, 09:55:24 AM EDT
Re: OK, Jim, add one more: Delphi. (And rename the concept!)
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JimWeirich
)
- (9)
- July 17, 2003, 08:06:37 AM EDT
Ah; the problem seems to be I didn't take into account...
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CRConrad
)
- (8)
- July 17, 2003, 09:19:30 AM EDT
Wow, are we in the same universe?
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JimWeirich
)
- (7)
- July 17, 2003, 02:32:44 PM EDT
(... continuing from the previous message)
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JimWeirich
)
- (6)
- July 17, 2003, 03:06:05 PM EDT
Combining replies into a single (bigger) slice of humble pie
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CRConrad
)
- (5)
- July 19, 2003, 07:01:07 PM EDT
Lots of Comments ...
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JimWeirich
)
- July 20, 2003, 01:11:17 AM EDT
You remind me of the blub paradox
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ben_tilly
)
- (3)
- July 20, 2003, 02:12:44 AM EDT
Speaking of PL History
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ChrisR
)
- (2)
- July 20, 2003, 02:31:49 PM EDT
Kay's thinking
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tuberculosis
)
- (1)
- Aug. 21, 2007, 05:40:24 AM EDT
xlnt
-NT
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deSitter
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- July 21, 2003, 12:48:33 AM EDT
Why are you so upset?
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ben_tilly
)
- (2)
- July 17, 2003, 10:50:14 AM EDT
Caw, caw: My own fault, mostly, mis-remembering the thread.
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CRConrad
)
- (1)
- July 17, 2003, 05:42:12 PM EDT
Just responding to the GC point...
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ben_tilly
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- July 18, 2003, 02:09:36 AM EDT
Scope exit vs. object cleanup
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admin
)
- July 16, 2003, 04:47:47 PM EDT
Don't be a sharecropper
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orion
)
- (1)
- July 13, 2003, 09:48:36 PM EDT
Read It Again. Then read below.
-NT
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Ashton
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- July 13, 2003, 10:52:35 PM EDT
Project Rave
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orion
)
- (7)
- July 12, 2003, 11:09:44 PM EDT
Raised eyebrow...
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Simon_Jester
)
- (6)
- July 13, 2003, 10:22:40 AM EDT
Re: Raised eyebrow...
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deSitter
)
- (5)
- July 13, 2003, 11:19:56 AM EDT
Theories and principals
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orion
)
- (4)
- July 13, 2003, 05:27:42 PM EDT
In that direction
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Ashton
)
- (3)
- July 13, 2003, 10:43:32 PM EDT
I have to at least try
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orion
)
- (2)
- July 13, 2003, 11:10:52 PM EDT
Try not! Do or do not, there is no try! - Yoda
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tuberculosis
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- (1)
- July 14, 2003, 01:52:40 AM EDT
I have love of programming, that isn't the problem
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orion
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- July 14, 2003, 04:51:20 PM EDT
Quick and dirty, verses correct and proper programming
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orion
)
- (6)
- July 10, 2003, 10:31:43 PM EDT
False dichotomy
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tuberculosis
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- (4)
- July 11, 2003, 05:36:42 PM EDT
inside out vs. top down
-NT
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deSitter
)
- (2)
- July 11, 2003, 10:04:03 PM EDT
More like "seat of your pants programming"
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orion
)
- (1)
- July 11, 2003, 10:06:48 PM EDT
Not every building needs an architect
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tuberculosis
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- July 12, 2003, 05:17:41 PM EDT
Quite.
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static
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- July 12, 2003, 01:49:38 AM EDT
Cutting the managers out of the equation...
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ChrisR
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- July 11, 2003, 11:08:24 PM EDT
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