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Post #105,801
by tablizer
6/12/03 2:31:04 AM
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New Most places i've been don't have unit tests
I suggested it at my last major gig because things were growing too complicted, but nobody seemed interested.
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Post #105,811
by folkert
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6/12/03 8:26:44 AM
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New The point being...
YOU should always use them. Anything you do, should use them. They are easy to integrate into your coding, regardless of what others use as a practice.
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Post #105,857
by CRConrad
6/12/03 3:24:24 PM
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New OT - new LRPDism? (new thread)
Created as new thread #105856 titled [link|/forums/render/content/show?contentid=105856|OT - new LRPDism?]


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Post #105,861
by tablizer
6/12/03 3:30:57 PM
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New regarding unit testing

I have yet to find an easy solution to unit testing web apps, especially with function-poor languages like ColdFusion. Plus, you often need access to a testing database, and the DBA does not allow such in some places. I tried to install a local copy of Oracle, but it did not work.

If I pushed it, I could have probably done such with a Python script or something, but it seemed like a lot more work than just being really careful and/or letting the customer find it (eeeek!). Plus, the requirements were still changing.
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Post #105,863
by admin
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6/12/03 3:35:56 PM
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New Re: regarding unit testing
[link|http://httpunit.sourceforge.net/|http://httpunit.sourceforge.net/]

Capable of testing javascript as well.
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     Kill the Methodologists - (tuberculosis) - (69) - June 3, 2003, 02:07:46 PM EDT
         Skill: the anti-Manager - (jb4) - (1) - June 3, 2003, 07:08:55 PM EDT
             Re: Skill: the anti-Manager - (orion) - June 3, 2003, 08:06:30 PM EDT
         Re: Kill the Methodologists - (systems) - (61) - June 3, 2003, 09:08:51 PM EDT
             Thanks for joining in, comments - (boxley) - June 4, 2003, 09:06:24 AM EDT
             OT: Text formatting - (pwhysall) - June 4, 2003, 10:52:18 AM EDT
             Most Methodologies have their basis in fantasy - (tuberculosis) - (6) - June 4, 2003, 01:37:44 PM EDT
                 Let's see if I can summarize - (drewk) - (4) - June 4, 2003, 01:46:47 PM EDT
                     Basically, yeah - (tuberculosis) - (3) - June 4, 2003, 02:44:00 PM EDT
                         Which brings us to the essential tension in SW today: - (tseliot) - June 4, 2003, 07:38:28 PM EDT
                         Re: Basically, yeah - (deSitter) - (1) - June 4, 2003, 09:58:48 PM EDT
                             Ummm... - (ben_tilly) - June 4, 2003, 11:29:17 PM EDT
                 There's nothing wrong with Methodology... - (Simon_Jester) - June 5, 2003, 06:07:42 PM EDT
             Ahh, a PHB in training. - (broomberg) - (6) - June 4, 2003, 11:36:22 PM EDT
                 Programming is more art than science. - (static) - (1) - June 6, 2003, 08:25:26 AM EDT
                     I know every time I want some programming done - (boxley) - June 6, 2003, 08:42:10 AM EDT
                 This is the *only* reason I'm still a programmer - (tseliot) - (3) - June 6, 2003, 11:41:36 AM EDT
                     So you're good at forgetting things - (drewk) - (2) - June 6, 2003, 11:47:39 AM EDT
                         Oh stop yerself! - (jb4) - June 6, 2003, 01:39:03 PM EDT
                         That's easy - (ben_tilly) - June 7, 2003, 01:22:15 AM EDT
             Sorry, you're misinformed. - (admin) - (44) - June 5, 2003, 10:15:58 AM EDT
                 "You can't coach height" - (drewk) - (7) - June 5, 2003, 11:27:17 AM EDT
                     Exactly. And while we're on the subject... - (admin) - (6) - June 5, 2003, 11:29:53 AM EDT
                         No kidding - (drewk) - (3) - June 5, 2003, 11:38:25 AM EDT
                             heck, i got one dumber than a rock but gifted - (boxley) - (2) - June 5, 2003, 12:15:15 PM EDT
                                 Not the same. - (admin) - (1) - June 5, 2003, 12:17:19 PM EDT
                                     It is also used in the common tongue - (boxley) - June 5, 2003, 12:22:10 PM EDT
                         Doubt mine qualify as gifted... - (ChrisR) - June 5, 2003, 12:28:57 PM EDT
                         I got one of each - (broomberg) - June 5, 2003, 12:56:19 PM EDT
                 The problem with discussing elite programmers... - (ChrisR) - (5) - June 5, 2003, 12:47:25 PM EDT
                     Possible - (broomberg) - (4) - June 5, 2003, 01:14:45 PM EDT
                         I think I've reached that point - (drewk) - (2) - June 5, 2003, 01:31:18 PM EDT
                             The first thing I do now... - (admin) - June 5, 2003, 01:36:48 PM EDT
                             I worked with many real 10%ers - (boxley) - June 5, 2003, 04:23:59 PM EDT
                         Its situational to some extent - (tuberculosis) - June 5, 2003, 04:03:56 PM EDT
                 Actually, lazy is better - (broomberg) - (2) - June 5, 2003, 12:49:31 PM EDT
                     That's "responsibly lazy". - (admin) - June 5, 2003, 01:02:49 PM EDT
                     Wall in the Camel book: - (tseliot) - June 5, 2003, 05:56:12 PM EDT
                 Re: Sorry, you're misinformed. - (pwhysall) - (2) - June 6, 2003, 02:46:48 AM EDT
                     Undoubtedly. - (admin) - (1) - June 6, 2003, 08:48:59 AM EDT
                         Hmm. "curious", eh? - (static) - June 6, 2003, 08:54:08 AM EDT
                 Double post. -NT - (pwhysall) - June 6, 2003, 02:52:16 AM EDT
                 Talent how measured? - (tablizer) - (22) - June 10, 2003, 06:32:54 PM EDT
                     Point == missed. - (admin) - (21) - June 10, 2003, 06:34:29 PM EDT
                         Software development is like driving - (tablizer) - (20) - June 10, 2003, 10:02:50 PM EDT
                             Uhhh... - (Yendor) - (18) - June 10, 2003, 10:45:49 PM EDT
                                 ANYONE is a little too strong a requirement! :) - (a6l6e6x) - (1) - June 11, 2003, 01:15:52 AM EDT
                                     Well, OK... - (Yendor) - June 11, 2003, 01:33:26 AM EDT
                                 Audience - (tablizer) - (15) - June 11, 2003, 02:26:38 PM EDT
                                     Two words... - (Yendor) - (7) - June 11, 2003, 04:14:10 PM EDT
                                         Another Two Words. - (folkert) - June 11, 2003, 04:26:47 PM EDT
                                         Megadittos - (tjsinclair) - June 11, 2003, 06:07:02 PM EDT
                                         Most places i've been don't have unit tests - (tablizer) - (4) - June 12, 2003, 02:31:04 AM EDT
                                             The point being... - (folkert) - (3) - June 12, 2003, 08:26:44 AM EDT
                                                 OT - new LRPDism? (new thread) - (CRConrad) - June 12, 2003, 03:24:24 PM EDT
                                                 regarding unit testing - (tablizer) - (1) - June 12, 2003, 03:30:57 PM EDT
                                                     Re: regarding unit testing - (admin) - June 12, 2003, 03:35:56 PM EDT
                                     Don' you be talkin' about 'abstraction'... - (jb4) - (6) - June 11, 2003, 06:18:08 PM EDT
                                         Bull. Relational is more abstract than OO - (tablizer) - (5) - June 12, 2003, 02:32:03 AM EDT
                                             And tables are nothing but... - (jb4) - (4) - June 12, 2003, 06:09:32 PM EDT
                                                 Relational does not dictate underlying implementation - (tablizer) - (3) - June 13, 2003, 02:08:29 AM EDT
                                                     Bryce, what ARE you talking about - (jb4) - (2) - June 16, 2003, 04:28:23 PM EDT
                                                         You misunderstood me - (tablizer) - (1) - June 17, 2003, 02:25:34 AM EDT
                                                             And *why* do you think that happens all the time...? (new thread) - (CRConrad) - June 17, 2003, 03:27:56 AM EDT
                             Most software developers are wrong... -NT - (admin) - June 10, 2003, 10:52:37 PM EDT
         Nice -NT - (deSitter) - June 3, 2003, 09:50:36 PM EDT
         Robert C Martin concurs - (tuberculosis) - (2) - June 3, 2003, 10:34:56 PM EDT
             *snort* My PFY tells me that evey day - (tseliot) - (1) - June 4, 2003, 12:59:08 AM EDT
                 *Lots* of people have told me that - (drewk) - June 4, 2003, 08:10:29 AM EDT
         HOLEEECHIT! - (folkert) - June 4, 2003, 08:35:58 PM EDT

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