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Post #105,090

by static

6/6/03 8:25:26 AM

Programming is more art than science.

I've said that for many years. The well known Perl mantra, TMTOWTDI*, reflects this. And how many times do we hear of "elegance"? Anything that can be elegant is in some way artistically influenced,

Maybe I should start describing myself as an artist...

Wade, who currently programs for a crust.

* There's More Than One Way To Do It, if you somehow don't know.

Is it enough to love
Is it enough to breathe
Somebody rip my heart out
And leave me here to bleed

Is it enough to die
Somebody save my life
I'd rather be Anything but Ordinary
Please

-- "Anything but Ordinary" by Avril Lavigne.

Post #105,093

by boxley

6/6/03 8:42:10 AM

I know every time I want some programming done

I call Art :-)
hanx,
bill

will work for cash and other incentives [link|http://home.tampabay.rr.com/boxley/resume/Resume.html|skill set]

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Kill the Methodologists - (tuberculosis) - (69) - June 3, 2003, 02:07:46 PM EDT

Skill: the anti-Manager - (jb4) - (1) - June 3, 2003, 07:08:55 PM EDT

Re: Skill: the anti-Manager - (orion) - June 3, 2003, 08:06:30 PM EDT

Re: Kill the Methodologists - (systems) - (61) - June 3, 2003, 09:08:51 PM EDT

Thanks for joining in, comments - (boxley) - June 4, 2003, 09:06:24 AM EDT

OT: Text formatting - (pwhysall) - June 4, 2003, 10:52:18 AM EDT

Most Methodologies have their basis in fantasy - (tuberculosis) - (6) - June 4, 2003, 01:37:44 PM EDT

Let's see if I can summarize - (drewk) - (4) - June 4, 2003, 01:46:47 PM EDT

Basically, yeah - (tuberculosis) - (3) - June 4, 2003, 02:44:00 PM EDT

Which brings us to the essential tension in SW today: - (tseliot) - June 4, 2003, 07:38:28 PM EDT

Re: Basically, yeah - (deSitter) - (1) - June 4, 2003, 09:58:48 PM EDT

Ummm... - (ben_tilly) - June 4, 2003, 11:29:17 PM EDT

There's nothing wrong with Methodology... - (Simon_Jester) - June 5, 2003, 06:07:42 PM EDT

Ahh, a PHB in training. - (broomberg) - (6) - June 4, 2003, 11:36:22 PM EDT

Programming is more art than science. - (static) - (1) - June 6, 2003, 08:25:26 AM EDT

I know every time I want some programming done - (boxley) - June 6, 2003, 08:42:10 AM EDT

This is the *only* reason I'm still a programmer - (tseliot) - (3) - June 6, 2003, 11:41:36 AM EDT

So you're good at forgetting things - (drewk) - (2) - June 6, 2003, 11:47:39 AM EDT

Oh stop yerself! - (jb4) - June 6, 2003, 01:39:03 PM EDT

That's easy - (ben_tilly) - June 7, 2003, 01:22:15 AM EDT

Sorry, you're misinformed. - (admin) - (44) - June 5, 2003, 10:15:58 AM EDT

"You can't coach height" - (drewk) - (7) - June 5, 2003, 11:27:17 AM EDT

Exactly. And while we're on the subject... - (admin) - (6) - June 5, 2003, 11:29:53 AM EDT

No kidding - (drewk) - (3) - June 5, 2003, 11:38:25 AM EDT

heck, i got one dumber than a rock but gifted - (boxley) - (2) - June 5, 2003, 12:15:15 PM EDT

Not the same. - (admin) - (1) - June 5, 2003, 12:17:19 PM EDT

It is also used in the common tongue - (boxley) - June 5, 2003, 12:22:10 PM EDT

Doubt mine qualify as gifted... - (ChrisR) - June 5, 2003, 12:28:57 PM EDT

I got one of each - (broomberg) - June 5, 2003, 12:56:19 PM EDT

The problem with discussing elite programmers... - (ChrisR) - (5) - June 5, 2003, 12:47:25 PM EDT

Possible - (broomberg) - (4) - June 5, 2003, 01:14:45 PM EDT

I think I've reached that point - (drewk) - (2) - June 5, 2003, 01:31:18 PM EDT

The first thing I do now... - (admin) - June 5, 2003, 01:36:48 PM EDT

I worked with many real 10%ers - (boxley) - June 5, 2003, 04:23:59 PM EDT

Its situational to some extent - (tuberculosis) - June 5, 2003, 04:03:56 PM EDT

Actually, lazy is better - (broomberg) - (2) - June 5, 2003, 12:49:31 PM EDT

That's "responsibly lazy". - (admin) - June 5, 2003, 01:02:49 PM EDT

Wall in the Camel book: - (tseliot) - June 5, 2003, 05:56:12 PM EDT

Re: Sorry, you're misinformed. - (pwhysall) - (2) - June 6, 2003, 02:46:48 AM EDT

Undoubtedly. - (admin) - (1) - June 6, 2003, 08:48:59 AM EDT

Hmm. "curious", eh? - (static) - June 6, 2003, 08:54:08 AM EDT

Double post. -NT - (pwhysall) - June 6, 2003, 02:52:16 AM EDT

Talent how measured? - (tablizer) - (22) - June 10, 2003, 06:32:54 PM EDT

Point == missed. - (admin) - (21) - June 10, 2003, 06:34:29 PM EDT

Software development is like driving - (tablizer) - (20) - June 10, 2003, 10:02:50 PM EDT

Uhhh... - (Yendor) - (18) - June 10, 2003, 10:45:49 PM EDT

ANYONE is a little too strong a requirement! :) - (a6l6e6x) - (1) - June 11, 2003, 01:15:52 AM EDT

Well, OK... - (Yendor) - June 11, 2003, 01:33:26 AM EDT

Audience - (tablizer) - (15) - June 11, 2003, 02:26:38 PM EDT

Two words... - (Yendor) - (7) - June 11, 2003, 04:14:10 PM EDT

Another Two Words. - (folkert) - June 11, 2003, 04:26:47 PM EDT

Megadittos - (tjsinclair) - June 11, 2003, 06:07:02 PM EDT

Most places i've been don't have unit tests - (tablizer) - (4) - June 12, 2003, 02:31:04 AM EDT

The point being... - (folkert) - (3) - June 12, 2003, 08:26:44 AM EDT

OT - new LRPDism? (new thread) - (CRConrad) - June 12, 2003, 03:24:24 PM EDT

regarding unit testing - (tablizer) - (1) - June 12, 2003, 03:30:57 PM EDT

Re: regarding unit testing - (admin) - June 12, 2003, 03:35:56 PM EDT

Don' you be talkin' about 'abstraction'... - (jb4) - (6) - June 11, 2003, 06:18:08 PM EDT

Bull. Relational is more abstract than OO - (tablizer) - (5) - June 12, 2003, 02:32:03 AM EDT

And tables are nothing but... - (jb4) - (4) - June 12, 2003, 06:09:32 PM EDT

Relational does not dictate underlying implementation - (tablizer) - (3) - June 13, 2003, 02:08:29 AM EDT

Bryce, what ARE you talking about - (jb4) - (2) - June 16, 2003, 04:28:23 PM EDT

You misunderstood me - (tablizer) - (1) - June 17, 2003, 02:25:34 AM EDT

And *why* do you think that happens all the time...? (new thread) - (CRConrad) - June 17, 2003, 03:27:56 AM EDT

Most software developers are wrong... -NT - (admin) - June 10, 2003, 10:52:37 PM EDT

Nice -NT - (deSitter) - June 3, 2003, 09:50:36 PM EDT

Robert C Martin concurs - (tuberculosis) - (2) - June 3, 2003, 10:34:56 PM EDT

*snort* My PFY tells me that evey day - (tseliot) - (1) - June 4, 2003, 12:59:08 AM EDT

*Lots* of people have told me that - (drewk) - June 4, 2003, 08:10:29 AM EDT

HOLEEECHIT! - (folkert) - June 4, 2003, 08:35:58 PM EDT

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