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     Problem for STers - (deSitter) - (1)
         You're thinking about it inside out - (tuberculosis)
     What I hate about C++ - (gdaustin) - (8)
         Re: What I hate about C++ - (neelk)
         ?? STL - (Simon_Jester)
         So you have to use simple stuff - (tuberculosis) - (5)
             Interpreted Environments - (gdaustin) - (3)
                 So you're ready for Squeak - (tuberculosis) - (2)
                     Need scalability.. And not necessarily a Web App... - (gdaustin)
                     To be fair... - (gdaustin)
             Happened to me before - (orion)
     Have I mentioned how much I love design? - (FuManChu) - (2)
         ... - (admin) - (1)
             Yup. - (FuManChu)
     Interoperability, MS style - (Arkadiy) - (3)
         "We're all about standards. Until they become difficult." -NT - (FuManChu)
         Embrace. Extend. Extinguish. -NT - (static) - (1)
             Spot on! -NT - (a6l6e6x)
     BBS Door/Games programming and FOSSIL - (orion)
     XML Mania is driving me crazy - (bluke) - (29)
         AAAAHHH!! Make it stop! -NT - (deSitter)
         AAAAHHH!! Make it stop! -NT - (deSitter) - (2)
             Bug!? - (deSitter) - (1)
                 Uh huh. - (pwhysall)
         There are only two reasons to use XML: - (admin) - (15)
             Re: There are only two reasons to use XML: - (deSitter)
             Does our situation fit your criteria? - (drewk) - (9)
                 That's part of what Scott meant by "loose coupling". - (FuManChu)
                 Only you are using the data - (tuberculosis) - (7)
                     Got a link for PLists? (google give too many to dig through) -NT - (drewk) - (3)
                         Explain it right here - (tuberculosis) - (2)
                             How about multi-dimensional arrays? -NT - (drewk) - (1)
                                 Lists of lists -NT - (tuberculosis)
                     Re: Only you are using the data - (JimWeirich) - (1)
                         Too complicated -NT - (tuberculosis)
                     Was just reminded that's not always going to be true - (drewk)
             Re: There are only two reasons to use XML: - (neelk) - (3)
                 Agreed. - (admin) - (2)
                     An effort to make this constructive and educational - (FuManChu) - (1)
                         PLists on sockets - (tuberculosis)
         Luddite standing in the way of progress! :) - (a6l6e6x)
         XML - Some Thoughts - (gdaustin)
         Winnah! of the Lucid Post of the Month award! - (jb4)
         Let's promote a relational alternative - (tablizer) - (5)
             But... - (gdaustin)
             Spitting - (tuberculosis) - (3)
                 But you see, Todd? - (gdaustin) - (2)
                     I don't think its the PHBs - (tuberculosis) - (1)
                         Another possibility... - (gdaustin)
     Why extends is evil? - (johnu) - (44)
         Is this just for Java? - (drewk)
         This argument is needlessly pedantic, IMO - (FuManChu)
         Lesson learned from Smalltalk - (ChrisR) - (1)
             sounds like a will -NT - (deSitter)
         Inheritance is a tool. - (admin) - (7)
             Re: Inheritance is a tool. - (deSitter) - (3)
                 There's more to life than implementation inheritance. - (admin)
                 Definitions - (johnu) - (1)
                     I'd ask Alan Kay - (tuberculosis)
             Thank you, Scott! - (jb4) - (1)
                 Another Me Too - (JimWeirich)
             Good example of bad inheritance, java.util.Stack - (bluke)
         This guy cracks me up - (tuberculosis)
         IS A vs HAS A - (gdaustin) - (30)
             Quite. - (static)
             I missed that course - (drewk) - (18)
                 Shorthand for relationships - (admin) - (17)
                     Re: Shorthand for relationships - (deSitter) - (1)
                         snicker - (FuManChu)
                     ISA/HASA are good for a first approximation - (JimWeirich) - (14)
                         So what does it get you? - (drewk) - (10)
                             Specialization vs. Generalization - (gdaustin)
                             Code - (JimWeirich) - (7)
                                 Thanks, but what would HASA look like? -NT - (drewk) - (6)
                                     HASA - (gdaustin) - (5)
                                         See, that's where I always get tripped up - (drewk) - (4)
                                             There is a point to naming the useless stuff - (ben_tilly) - (3)
                                                 Clarification - (drewk) - (2)
                                                     Yes - (ben_tilly) - (1)
                                                         That's why I shouldn't be a teacher - (drewk)
                             The example of a stack (see post above) is a good one - (bluke)
                         My car is a Saturn - (gdaustin)
                         hierarchies and the real world - (tablizer) - (1)
                             Nonsense - (ChrisR)
             Not quite that simple - (tuberculosis) - (9)
                 Thing I love/hate about smalltalk - (drewk) - (2)
                     Similar to Python in that fashion -NT - (admin)
                     Its real -NT - (tuberculosis)
                 Forgot to mention: key driver is "substitutability" - (tuberculosis) - (4)
                     Techies at Hertz - (tablizer) - (3)
                         And if your Table or Data Structure is... - (ChrisR)
                         Mostly - (tuberculosis) - (1)
                             Or perhaps that .... - (gdaustin)
                 Code sharing vs. polymorphism - (johnu)
     Naming convention/linguistic poser - (FuManChu) - (12)
         Group, list, collection, army, gang, troop, tribe, flock... -NT - (a6l6e6x) - (5)
             gaggle, herd, mob, assortment, bunch ... -NT - (jbrabeck) - (4)
                 BagO' -NT - (admin) - (3)
                     Metric assload -NT - (drewk) - (2)
                         Cubic Chin -NT - (pwhysall) - (1)
                             Oh, *that's* what 'cc' stands for (gotta learn this metric) -NT - (drewk)
         Dilberts. -NT - (Another Scott)
         Fie on the lot of you! - (FuManChu) - (2)
             Green, orange, pekeo, jasmine, spice, black tea... -NT - (jbrabeck)
             What's wrong with... - (admin)
         Coordinator - (tuberculosis) - (1)
             Yes, that'll do nicely! -NT - (FuManChu)
     Assistance with constraint violation error messages - (boxley) - (4)
         Depends how you define bug. - (ChrisR) - (1)
             My thinking exactly - (boxley)
         The question is what does the spec say? - (a6l6e6x)
         Trivial bug - (JayMehaffey)
     Delivering sub-second response times - (admin) - (11)
         Distributed monitoring tools... - (slugbug) - (3)
             To a certain extent. - (admin)
             Database? - (gdaustin) - (1)
                 One More Thing.. - (gdaustin)
         you may want to take a look here - (boxley) - (1)
             A year ago, maybe. - (admin)
         My two cents - (lincoln) - (1)
             Considering... - (admin)
         Query count versus query types. - (static) - (2)
             Just doing that move myself - (FuManChu)
             one thought.... - (slugbug)
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