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Post #46,557

Picture of pwhysall

7/23/02 4:38:16 PM

You miss the point

In 1984, PC and home computer users were typing commands to do stuff.

GEM hadn't happened yet, and Windows was still a twinkle in Bill's eye.

Mac users were dragging files to the trash.

PCs do this, they do that. Mainly the discussion about PC hardware and software is a discussion of What Microsoft Did Next.

The ability to play King's Quest in 320x200x16 colours is an evolution, not a revolution.

The ability to graphically manage your stuff, on the other hand, was a sea change that altered the face of computing for ever.[1]

So what if it was in black and white?

[1] Ye Olde Chestenutt about Xerox and the Star system is duly noted.

Peter
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Post #46,564

Picture of orion

7/23/02 4:49:47 PM

Big deal

Do you care that AT&T had the phone system and long distance before any other company? Does that fact prevent you from using WorldCom, Sprint, or any other Long Distance Carrier? Diner's Club invented the credit card, but does that prevent you from using Mastercard, Visa, Discover, or American Express? McDonald's practially invented Fast Food, but would that prevent you from going to Burger King, Taco Bell, Jack In The Box, KFC, Hardee's, etc? Ford practially invented the car (I know I know, some German guy did it first) or rather the automobile assembly line but will that stop you from buying a Chevy, Toyota, Saturn, GMC, etc? What prevents you from using the service or product from the company that originaly thought it up, or that had it before anyone else?

Pepsi and Coke, which is better? Or does the average person care which one came first? Or are they more concerned which one costs less?

Most of the time people go with the less expensive product or service, that $600USD PC rather than that $1200USD Mac. Why? Don't ask me, I am not your average user.

I am free now, to choose my own destiny.

Argh! Why are Mac users so WHINY!!! - (tjsinclair) - (93) - July 18, 2002, 01:22:16 AM EDT

I hate the Mac - (tuberculosis) - (85) - July 18, 2002, 10:47:53 AM EDT

Agreed - (tjsinclair) - July 18, 2002, 12:11:49 PM EDT

It was a love-hate relationship - (orion) - July 18, 2002, 12:31:53 PM EDT

I said this many a year ago - (orion) - (79) - July 18, 2002, 05:28:18 PM EDT

I remember - (tuberculosis) - (78) - July 19, 2002, 05:34:48 AM EDT

Desktop Unixes and Mac Users - (orion) - July 19, 2002, 08:10:13 AM EDT

But here is my point - (orion) - (76) - July 19, 2002, 09:10:32 AM EDT

Excessive diversity - (tuberculosis) - (75) - July 19, 2002, 09:43:25 AM EDT

Things have changed - (orion) - (74) - July 19, 2002, 09:52:28 AM EDT

Not enough - (tuberculosis) - (73) - July 22, 2002, 03:09:25 AM EDT

That sounds painful - (snork) - (69) - July 22, 2002, 11:09:40 AM EDT

Not all of the PC Industry - (orion) - (68) - July 22, 2002, 12:49:08 PM EDT

Pretty much - (tuberculosis) - (67) - July 22, 2002, 04:56:30 PM EDT

Optical mouse/mouse wheel? - (admin) - (9) - July 22, 2002, 05:24:04 PM EDT

Sun Workstations - 1987 - (tuberculosis) - (8) - July 23, 2002, 02:41:39 AM EDT

Morley (ot) - (Steve Lowe) - (1) - July 23, 2002, 03:10:27 AM EDT

I know what you mean! -NT - (tuberculosis) - July 23, 2002, 09:09:34 AM EDT

Different optical technologies - (tonytib) - (1) - July 23, 2002, 12:42:30 PM EDT

OK, Noted - (tuberculosis) - July 23, 2002, 04:57:23 PM EDT

Re: Sun Workstations - 1987 - (pwhysall) - (2) - July 23, 2002, 05:05:15 PM EDT

Hahahahaha! - (admin) - July 23, 2002, 05:24:37 PM EDT

Yep - I remember that. -NT - (tuberculosis) - July 23, 2002, 05:27:48 PM EDT

Figured you would say that. - (admin) - July 23, 2002, 05:25:41 PM EDT

The PC side - (andread) - (1) - July 22, 2002, 07:07:25 PM EDT

Latchable menus - OK - (tuberculosis) - July 23, 2002, 02:44:14 AM EDT

Let me think about it - (orion) - (54) - July 22, 2002, 07:10:51 PM EDT

Nope - (tuberculosis) - (40) - July 23, 2002, 03:04:08 AM EDT

Re: Nope - (Steve Lowe) - (1) - July 23, 2002, 03:14:57 AM EDT

How many paper airplanes did your team build? - (tuberculosis) - July 23, 2002, 09:13:07 AM EDT

PC Sound - (orion) - (7) - July 23, 2002, 10:51:23 AM EDT

Forget it - (pwhysall) - (6) - July 23, 2002, 12:45:39 PM EDT

More stuff they should have stole - (orion) - (4) - July 23, 2002, 01:27:15 PM EDT

The Enlightenment WM Had/Has It -NT - (altmann) - (3) - July 23, 2002, 01:51:42 PM EDT

I always hated that feature - (tuberculosis) - (2) - July 23, 2002, 05:25:25 PM EDT

I loved it - (orion) - July 23, 2002, 05:29:26 PM EDT

Yes/no - (admin) - July 23, 2002, 05:33:21 PM EDT

Hey somebody gets it! - (tuberculosis) - July 23, 2002, 04:25:16 PM EDT

What about the light pen interface? - (orion) - (9) - July 23, 2002, 01:39:50 PM EDT

Did your computer come with one? Does the mac? Not ubiq. - (tuberculosis) - (8) - July 23, 2002, 04:22:45 PM EDT

So what? On the PC the mouse is optional. - (orion) - (7) - July 23, 2002, 04:32:10 PM EDT

You're off topic - (tuberculosis) - (6) - July 23, 2002, 05:01:22 PM EDT

You're off your rocker - (orion) - (5) - July 23, 2002, 05:27:22 PM EDT

?!?!? - (tuberculosis) - (4) - July 23, 2002, 05:42:00 PM EDT

Stay on topic indeed? - (orion) - (3) - July 23, 2002, 06:13:29 PM EDT

Taking your ball and going home? - (pwhysall) - (1) - July 23, 2002, 06:21:35 PM EDT

Not my ball, not my home, not my game. - (orion) - July 23, 2002, 09:28:31 PM EDT

OK, I'll make this simple for you - (tuberculosis) - July 24, 2002, 02:58:34 AM EDT

Au contraire - (wharris2) - (19) - July 23, 2002, 03:10:14 PM EDT

Don't tease the Mac Fans - (orion) - (2) - July 23, 2002, 04:13:29 PM EDT

You miss the point - (pwhysall) - (1) - July 23, 2002, 04:38:16 PM EDT

Big deal - (orion) - July 23, 2002, 04:49:47 PM EDT

Think Not - (tuberculosis) - (15) - July 23, 2002, 04:48:04 PM EDT

Price, even if you like it or not, always is a big factor. - (orion) - (14) - July 23, 2002, 04:58:46 PM EDT

So low price is a PC "innovation" copied by everybody else? - (tuberculosis) - (13) - July 23, 2002, 05:06:55 PM EDT

The point is innovating to keep the price down, better bang - (orion) - (12) - July 23, 2002, 05:36:03 PM EDT

Maybe - (tuberculosis) - (11) - July 23, 2002, 05:45:24 PM EDT

You apparently don't seem to see a lot of things - (orion) - (10) - July 23, 2002, 06:16:39 PM EDT

What systems are those then? - (pwhysall) - (9) - July 23, 2002, 06:19:28 PM EDT

I always thought you were intelligent. - (wharris2) - (8) - July 26, 2002, 02:55:10 AM EDT

Expandable in which dimension? - (tuberculosis) - (1) - July 26, 2002, 03:39:55 AM EDT

Fear of a Red Hat - (orion) - July 26, 2002, 12:08:39 PM EDT

Not only that - (orion) - (5) - July 26, 2002, 12:03:18 PM EDT

You still need Office - (tuberculosis) - (4) - July 26, 2002, 03:49:08 PM EDT

But Office isn't part of the OS - (orion) - (3) - July 26, 2002, 06:38:14 PM EDT

Sure it is - (tuberculosis) - (2) - July 27, 2002, 11:18:10 AM EDT

I said it before - (orion) - (1) - July 27, 2002, 02:11:21 PM EDT

Re: I said it before - (wharris2) - July 30, 2002, 01:40:35 PM EDT

*Spurts coffee over keyboard* - (pwhysall) - (12) - July 23, 2002, 12:50:03 PM EDT

It was free, when it was Outlook 98 - (orion) - (10) - July 23, 2002, 01:32:07 PM EDT

Nope - (pwhysall) - (9) - July 23, 2002, 02:32:59 PM EDT

Huh? - (orion) - (8) - July 23, 2002, 03:57:30 PM EDT

Key Words - (pwhysall) - (7) - July 23, 2002, 05:13:35 PM EDT

OT Your BLOG - (tuberculosis) - (6) - July 23, 2002, 05:23:22 PM EDT

Re: OT Your BLOG - (pwhysall) - (5) - July 23, 2002, 05:25:21 PM EDT

Perl - ICK! - (tuberculosis) - (4) - July 23, 2002, 05:51:59 PM EDT

Re: Perl - ICK! - (pwhysall) - (3) - July 23, 2002, 05:55:06 PM EDT

Yeah but if I know me - (tuberculosis) - (2) - July 23, 2002, 05:58:11 PM EDT

I think I've found Todd's Weblog Heaven - (pwhysall) - (1) - July 23, 2002, 06:04:09 PM EDT

Thanks! - (tuberculosis) - July 24, 2002, 03:02:06 AM EDT

Evolution - (altmann) - July 24, 2002, 02:30:56 AM EDT

Actually, there has been innovation in PC's - (tonytib) - (2) - July 23, 2002, 07:58:10 PM EDT

Preach on! - (orion) - July 23, 2002, 08:54:48 PM EDT

My price trick - (tuberculosis) - July 24, 2002, 02:49:56 AM EDT

Why I hate the Mac - (orion) - (2) - July 19, 2002, 02:50:43 PM EDT

I am your long lost sister - (Dark Phoenix 2) - (1) - July 30, 2002, 04:05:44 PM EDT

Sister, where have you been? - (orion) - July 31, 2002, 12:08:14 AM EDT

They just are - (orion) - July 18, 2002, 12:28:09 PM EDT

The Katt knows! - (orion) - (5) - July 18, 2002, 07:33:29 PM EDT

Cute, but not to the point - (tjsinclair) - (4) - July 18, 2002, 09:52:12 PM EDT

But I already have it! - (snork) - (3) - July 19, 2002, 12:06:17 PM EDT

Good point - (tjsinclair) - (1) - July 19, 2002, 05:17:56 PM EDT

Can't argue with that - (snork) - July 21, 2002, 12:33:40 AM EDT

Yeah I know - (tuberculosis) - July 23, 2002, 05:09:37 PM EDT

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