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New Don't tease the Mac Fans
they don't like it when you spoil their party.

First they claim that the Mac had it first, then they will say that some other platform before the PC had it first but it doesn't matter that the PC had it before the Mac.

Quicktime, buggy as it is, always beats DVD players in their book.

They completely ignore the Cuecat, free device that Radio Shack gave out, improved the UI by allowing users to scan in bar codes to go to web sites. Sure beat typing in [link|http://www.radioshack.com/|http://www.radioshack.com/] to the browser and then searching for the item they wanted instead of scanning it from a Radio Shack catalog and jumping right to the site on the website to buy it from. But no, it wasn't on the Mac first, so it doesn't count. Or they will try aad say that it wasn't a true UI improvement, or that it didn't matter. As far as I knew, it was only PC technology, it used a PS/2 keyboard port. But they did invent a Linux interface driver for it.

Oh yeah, let's ignore the PCjr, because it was just a piece of crap. It didn't sell well at first, like the Original Macintosh. One of my friends actually got a cheap PCJr from a surplus sale and they threw in a free 300 baud modem with it, he was able to hook it up to his TV set and play Tradewars and get on BBSes way back when. To him, it wasn't a piece of crap, it worked as advertised. All he did was get a copy of Procomm, and zing, off he went. Software was easier to install/use on the PCjr than the regular PC, as some games came on cartridges. You cannot beat just plugging in a cart and powering the system on for an easy install. Plus the Sidecar expansion on the PCJr had a primative plug and play technology, this was before the Mac, and at a time when all the Mac had for expansion was serial ports (Before SCSI, and ADB) and that floppy port.

The Amiga pinoneered high color displays and desktops. It had 4096 colors, when the Mac still worked in shades of grey (on its built in monitor) and the best that IBM had was 16 color EGA. The Amiga also had a built in speech chip and an API to access it. Amiga BASIC had the first interface to it via the "SPEAK" command, and other languages had built in support for it. But it doesn't matter, because it was not a Macintosh?

Let's not get started on those HP systems and the touch screen that they had, oh no. It predated the Macintosh and the UI made things easier to use by pointing at it with your finger. No points there, even if it did use 3.5" drives before most other PC Clones.


I am free now, to choose my own destiny.
New You miss the point
In 1984, PC and home computer users were typing commands to do stuff.

GEM hadn't happened yet, and Windows was still a twinkle in Bill's eye.

Mac users were dragging files to the trash.

PCs do this, they do that. Mainly the discussion about PC hardware and software is a discussion of What Microsoft Did Next.

The ability to play King's Quest in 320x200x16 colours is an evolution, not a revolution.

The ability to graphically manage your stuff, on the other hand, was a sea change that altered the face of computing for ever.[1]

So what if it was in black and white?

[1] Ye Olde Chestenutt about Xerox and the Star system is duly noted.


Peter
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New Big deal
Do you care that AT&T had the phone system and long distance before any other company? Does that fact prevent you from using WorldCom, Sprint, or any other Long Distance Carrier? Diner's Club invented the credit card, but does that prevent you from using Mastercard, Visa, Discover, or American Express? McDonald's practially invented Fast Food, but would that prevent you from going to Burger King, Taco Bell, Jack In The Box, KFC, Hardee's, etc? Ford practially invented the car (I know I know, some German guy did it first) or rather the automobile assembly line but will that stop you from buying a Chevy, Toyota, Saturn, GMC, etc? What prevents you from using the service or product from the company that originaly thought it up, or that had it before anyone else?

Pepsi and Coke, which is better? Or does the average person care which one came first? Or are they more concerned which one costs less?

Most of the time people go with the less expensive product or service, that $600USD PC rather than that $1200USD Mac. Why? Don't ask me, I am not your average user.

I am free now, to choose my own destiny.
     Argh! Why are Mac users so WHINY!!! - (tjsinclair) - (93)
         I hate the Mac - (tuberculosis) - (85)
             Agreed - (tjsinclair)
             It was a love-hate relationship - (orion)
             I said this many a year ago - (orion) - (79)
                 I remember - (tuberculosis) - (78)
                     Desktop Unixes and Mac Users - (orion)
                     But here is my point - (orion) - (76)
                         Excessive diversity - (tuberculosis) - (75)
                             Things have changed - (orion) - (74)
                                 Not enough - (tuberculosis) - (73)
                                     That sounds painful - (snork) - (69)
                                         Not all of the PC Industry - (orion) - (68)
                                             Pretty much - (tuberculosis) - (67)
                                                 Optical mouse/mouse wheel? - (admin) - (9)
                                                     Sun Workstations - 1987 - (tuberculosis) - (8)
                                                         Morley (ot) - (Steve Lowe) - (1)
                                                             I know what you mean! -NT - (tuberculosis)
                                                         Different optical technologies - (tonytib) - (1)
                                                             OK, Noted - (tuberculosis)
                                                         Re: Sun Workstations - 1987 - (pwhysall) - (2)
                                                             Hahahahaha! - (admin)
                                                             Yep - I remember that. -NT - (tuberculosis)
                                                         Figured you would say that. - (admin)
                                                 The PC side - (andread) - (1)
                                                     Latchable menus - OK - (tuberculosis)
                                                 Let me think about it - (orion) - (54)
                                                     Nope - (tuberculosis) - (40)
                                                         Re: Nope - (Steve Lowe) - (1)
                                                             How many paper airplanes did your team build? - (tuberculosis)
                                                         PC Sound - (orion) - (7)
                                                             Forget it - (pwhysall) - (6)
                                                                 More stuff they should have stole - (orion) - (4)
                                                                     The Enlightenment WM Had/Has It -NT - (altmann) - (3)
                                                                         I always hated that feature - (tuberculosis) - (2)
                                                                             I loved it - (orion)
                                                                             Yes/no - (admin)
                                                                 Hey somebody gets it! - (tuberculosis)
                                                         What about the light pen interface? - (orion) - (9)
                                                             Did your computer come with one? Does the mac? Not ubiq. - (tuberculosis) - (8)
                                                                 So what? On the PC the mouse is optional. - (orion) - (7)
                                                                     You're off topic - (tuberculosis) - (6)
                                                                         You're off your rocker - (orion) - (5)
                                                                             ?!?!? - (tuberculosis) - (4)
                                                                                 Stay on topic indeed? - (orion) - (3)
                                                                                     Taking your ball and going home? - (pwhysall) - (1)
                                                                                         Not my ball, not my home, not my game. - (orion)
                                                                                     OK, I'll make this simple for you - (tuberculosis)
                                                         Au contraire - (wharris2) - (19)
                                                             Don't tease the Mac Fans - (orion) - (2)
                                                                 You miss the point - (pwhysall) - (1)
                                                                     Big deal - (orion)
                                                             Think Not - (tuberculosis) - (15)
                                                                 Price, even if you like it or not, always is a big factor. - (orion) - (14)
                                                                     So low price is a PC "innovation" copied by everybody else? - (tuberculosis) - (13)
                                                                         The point is innovating to keep the price down, better bang - (orion) - (12)
                                                                             Maybe - (tuberculosis) - (11)
                                                                                 You apparently don't seem to see a lot of things - (orion) - (10)
                                                                                     What systems are those then? - (pwhysall) - (9)
                                                                                         I always thought you were intelligent. - (wharris2) - (8)
                                                                                             Expandable in which dimension? - (tuberculosis) - (1)
                                                                                                 Fear of a Red Hat - (orion)
                                                                                             Not only that - (orion) - (5)
                                                                                                 You still need Office - (tuberculosis) - (4)
                                                                                                     But Office isn't part of the OS - (orion) - (3)
                                                                                                         Sure it is - (tuberculosis) - (2)
                                                                                                             I said it before - (orion) - (1)
                                                                                                                 Re: I said it before - (wharris2)
                                                     *Spurts coffee over keyboard* - (pwhysall) - (12)
                                                         It was free, when it was Outlook 98 - (orion) - (10)
                                                             Nope - (pwhysall) - (9)
                                                                 Huh? - (orion) - (8)
                                                                     Key Words - (pwhysall) - (7)
                                                                         OT Your BLOG - (tuberculosis) - (6)
                                                                             Re: OT Your BLOG - (pwhysall) - (5)
                                                                                 Perl - ICK! - (tuberculosis) - (4)
                                                                                     Re: Perl - ICK! - (pwhysall) - (3)
                                                                                         Yeah but if I know me - (tuberculosis) - (2)
                                                                                             I think I've found Todd's Weblog Heaven - (pwhysall) - (1)
                                                                                                 Thanks! - (tuberculosis)
                                                         Evolution - (altmann)
                                     Actually, there has been innovation in PC's - (tonytib) - (2)
                                         Preach on! - (orion)
                                         My price trick - (tuberculosis)
             Why I hate the Mac - (orion) - (2)
                 I am your long lost sister - (Dark Phoenix 2) - (1)
                     Sister, where have you been? - (orion)
         They just are - (orion)
         The Katt knows! - (orion) - (5)
             Cute, but not to the point - (tjsinclair) - (4)
                 But I already have it! - (snork) - (3)
                     Good point - (tjsinclair) - (1)
                         Can't argue with that - (snork)
                     Yeah I know - (tuberculosis)

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