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Post #46,524
by orion
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7/23/02 1:32:07 PM
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New It was free, when it was Outlook 98
IIRC it used to be a free download from MS, back when they offered the Outlook 98 and IE 4.0 bundle for Windows 95/98 and NT. The lawfirm I used to work for took full advantage of that and switched to Outlook from the Windows 95 "Inbox" and Exchange clients they used to have and use. They downloaded the install files and put them on a network location.

Sure it had its limitations and flaws, but they used it anyway.
I am free now, to choose my own destiny.
Post #46,531
by pwhysall
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7/23/02 2:32:59 PM
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New Nope
Outlook is the Exchange client, and a member application of the Office suite.

You need one of two things to legally run Outlook:

* An Office Standard licence
* An Exchange CAL

The version of Exchange that the CAL is for determines what version of Outlook you can run (in the absence of an Office licence):

* Exchange 5.5 : Outlook 97, 98 and 2000
* Exchange 2000 : Outlook 2002

Hope this clears things up.

Peter
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Post #46,544
by orion
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7/23/02 3:57:30 PM
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New Huh?
I ran Outlook 98 at home, for free, didn't use Exchange, used an Internet POP3 and SMTP server. There was an Outlook98.exe program that I downloaded from Microsoft, and it installed Outlook 98 and IE 4.0, as far as I knew if Microsoft allowed me to download and install it, I had a right to use it? It was, at that time, as free as IE was, as far as I knew.
I am free now, to choose my own destiny.
Post #46,574
by pwhysall
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7/23/02 5:13:35 PM
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New Key Words
"as far as you knew."

Peter
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Post #46,576
by tuberculosis
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7/23/02 5:23:22 PM
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New OT Your BLOG
What are you using for your blog software?
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Post #46,580
by pwhysall
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7/23/02 5:25:21 PM
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New Re: OT Your BLOG
I'm using [link|http://www.movabletype.org/|Moveable Type].

It's really quite nifty.

Peter
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Post #46,592
by tuberculosis
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7/23/02 5:51:59 PM
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New Perl - ICK!
I'm just not a perl guy. I respect it but never could get my head around it and never found a reason to work at it. Plus I'm already running postgres for my db. Thanks tho. I was hoping it was a java servlet thing.

I'm already running the wiki you can find at devtools.org on a resin server and its quite good. I'd like to find a blog that runs on these as I already know how to cope and don't have to add more stuff.

Your blog looks really good tho.
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Post #46,594
by pwhysall
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7/23/02 5:55:06 PM
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New Re: Perl - ICK!
I never touch the code - I just followed the instructions on how to install it :-)

Apparently you can hook it up with MySQL if you want, but I think that for my little blog the Berkeley DB storage it uses is quite adequate.

It could be written in Visual BASIC.NET BizTalk edition for all I care.

Oh.

Except it runs on my Debian GNU/Linux HP9000 server, which has a PARISC processor...

Peter
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Post #46,595
by tuberculosis
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7/23/02 5:58:11 PM
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New Yeah but if I know me
I'll get it all installed and some feature will annoy me and then....

I'll want to hack it somehow.
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Post #46,597
by pwhysall
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7/23/02 6:04:09 PM
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New I think I've found Todd's Weblog Heaven
[link|http://www.rollerweblogger.org/index.html|Click Here]

Peter
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Post #46,660
by tuberculosis
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7/24/02 3:02:06 AM
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New Thanks!
I'll give it a try.
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         I hate the Mac - (tuberculosis) - (85) - July 18, 2002, 10:47:53 AM EDT
             Agreed - (tjsinclair) - July 18, 2002, 12:11:49 PM EDT
             It was a love-hate relationship - (orion) - July 18, 2002, 12:31:53 PM EDT
             I said this many a year ago - (orion) - (79) - July 18, 2002, 05:28:18 PM EDT
                 I remember - (tuberculosis) - (78) - July 19, 2002, 05:34:48 AM EDT
                     Desktop Unixes and Mac Users - (orion) - July 19, 2002, 08:10:13 AM EDT
                     But here is my point - (orion) - (76) - July 19, 2002, 09:10:32 AM EDT
                         Excessive diversity - (tuberculosis) - (75) - July 19, 2002, 09:43:25 AM EDT
                             Things have changed - (orion) - (74) - July 19, 2002, 09:52:28 AM EDT
                                 Not enough - (tuberculosis) - (73) - July 22, 2002, 03:09:25 AM EDT
                                     That sounds painful - (snork) - (69) - July 22, 2002, 11:09:40 AM EDT
                                         Not all of the PC Industry - (orion) - (68) - July 22, 2002, 12:49:08 PM EDT
                                             Pretty much - (tuberculosis) - (67) - July 22, 2002, 04:56:30 PM EDT
                                                 Optical mouse/mouse wheel? - (admin) - (9) - July 22, 2002, 05:24:04 PM EDT
                                                     Sun Workstations - 1987 - (tuberculosis) - (8) - July 23, 2002, 02:41:39 AM EDT
                                                         Morley (ot) - (Steve Lowe) - (1) - July 23, 2002, 03:10:27 AM EDT
                                                             I know what you mean! -NT - (tuberculosis) - July 23, 2002, 09:09:34 AM EDT
                                                         Different optical technologies - (tonytib) - (1) - July 23, 2002, 12:42:30 PM EDT
                                                             OK, Noted - (tuberculosis) - July 23, 2002, 04:57:23 PM EDT
                                                         Re: Sun Workstations - 1987 - (pwhysall) - (2) - July 23, 2002, 05:05:15 PM EDT
                                                             Hahahahaha! - (admin) - July 23, 2002, 05:24:37 PM EDT
                                                             Yep - I remember that. -NT - (tuberculosis) - July 23, 2002, 05:27:48 PM EDT
                                                         Figured you would say that. - (admin) - July 23, 2002, 05:25:41 PM EDT
                                                 The PC side - (andread) - (1) - July 22, 2002, 07:07:25 PM EDT
                                                     Latchable menus - OK - (tuberculosis) - July 23, 2002, 02:44:14 AM EDT
                                                 Let me think about it - (orion) - (54) - July 22, 2002, 07:10:51 PM EDT
                                                     Nope - (tuberculosis) - (40) - July 23, 2002, 03:04:08 AM EDT
                                                         Re: Nope - (Steve Lowe) - (1) - July 23, 2002, 03:14:57 AM EDT
                                                             How many paper airplanes did your team build? - (tuberculosis) - July 23, 2002, 09:13:07 AM EDT
                                                         PC Sound - (orion) - (7) - July 23, 2002, 10:51:23 AM EDT
                                                             Forget it - (pwhysall) - (6) - July 23, 2002, 12:45:39 PM EDT
                                                                 More stuff they should have stole - (orion) - (4) - July 23, 2002, 01:27:15 PM EDT
                                                                     The Enlightenment WM Had/Has It -NT - (altmann) - (3) - July 23, 2002, 01:51:42 PM EDT
                                                                         I always hated that feature - (tuberculosis) - (2) - July 23, 2002, 05:25:25 PM EDT
                                                                             I loved it - (orion) - July 23, 2002, 05:29:26 PM EDT
                                                                             Yes/no - (admin) - July 23, 2002, 05:33:21 PM EDT
                                                                 Hey somebody gets it! - (tuberculosis) - July 23, 2002, 04:25:16 PM EDT
                                                         What about the light pen interface? - (orion) - (9) - July 23, 2002, 01:39:50 PM EDT
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                                                                 So what? On the PC the mouse is optional. - (orion) - (7) - July 23, 2002, 04:32:10 PM EDT
                                                                     You're off topic - (tuberculosis) - (6) - July 23, 2002, 05:01:22 PM EDT
                                                                         You're off your rocker - (orion) - (5) - July 23, 2002, 05:27:22 PM EDT
                                                                             ?!?!? - (tuberculosis) - (4) - July 23, 2002, 05:42:00 PM EDT
                                                                                 Stay on topic indeed? - (orion) - (3) - July 23, 2002, 06:13:29 PM EDT
                                                                                     Taking your ball and going home? - (pwhysall) - (1) - July 23, 2002, 06:21:35 PM EDT
                                                                                         Not my ball, not my home, not my game. - (orion) - July 23, 2002, 09:28:31 PM EDT
                                                                                     OK, I'll make this simple for you - (tuberculosis) - July 24, 2002, 02:58:34 AM EDT
                                                         Au contraire - (wharris2) - (19) - July 23, 2002, 03:10:14 PM EDT
                                                             Don't tease the Mac Fans - (orion) - (2) - July 23, 2002, 04:13:29 PM EDT
                                                                 You miss the point - (pwhysall) - (1) - July 23, 2002, 04:38:16 PM EDT
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                                                                     So low price is a PC "innovation" copied by everybody else? - (tuberculosis) - (13) - July 23, 2002, 05:06:55 PM EDT
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                                                                             Maybe - (tuberculosis) - (11) - July 23, 2002, 05:45:24 PM EDT
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                                                                                                 Fear of a Red Hat - (orion) - July 26, 2002, 12:08:39 PM EDT
                                                                                             Not only that - (orion) - (5) - July 26, 2002, 12:03:18 PM EDT
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                                                                                                     But Office isn't part of the OS - (orion) - (3) - July 26, 2002, 06:38:14 PM EDT
                                                                                                         Sure it is - (tuberculosis) - (2) - July 27, 2002, 11:18:10 AM EDT
                                                                                                             I said it before - (orion) - (1) - July 27, 2002, 02:11:21 PM EDT
                                                                                                                 Re: I said it before - (wharris2) - July 30, 2002, 01:40:35 PM EDT
                                                     *Spurts coffee over keyboard* - (pwhysall) - (12) - July 23, 2002, 12:50:03 PM EDT
                                                         It was free, when it was Outlook 98 - (orion) - (10) - July 23, 2002, 01:32:07 PM EDT
                                                             Nope - (pwhysall) - (9) - July 23, 2002, 02:32:59 PM EDT
                                                                 Huh? - (orion) - (8) - July 23, 2002, 03:57:30 PM EDT
                                                                     Key Words - (pwhysall) - (7) - July 23, 2002, 05:13:35 PM EDT
                                                                         OT Your BLOG - (tuberculosis) - (6) - July 23, 2002, 05:23:22 PM EDT
                                                                             Re: OT Your BLOG - (pwhysall) - (5) - July 23, 2002, 05:25:21 PM EDT
                                                                                 Perl - ICK! - (tuberculosis) - (4) - July 23, 2002, 05:51:59 PM EDT
                                                                                     Re: Perl - ICK! - (pwhysall) - (3) - July 23, 2002, 05:55:06 PM EDT
                                                                                         Yeah but if I know me - (tuberculosis) - (2) - July 23, 2002, 05:58:11 PM EDT
                                                                                             I think I've found Todd's Weblog Heaven - (pwhysall) - (1) - July 23, 2002, 06:04:09 PM EDT
                                                                                                 Thanks! - (tuberculosis) - July 24, 2002, 03:02:06 AM EDT
                                                         Evolution - (altmann) - July 24, 2002, 02:30:56 AM EDT
                                     Actually, there has been innovation in PC's - (tonytib) - (2) - July 23, 2002, 07:58:10 PM EDT
                                         Preach on! - (orion) - July 23, 2002, 08:54:48 PM EDT
                                         My price trick - (tuberculosis) - July 24, 2002, 02:49:56 AM EDT
             Why I hate the Mac - (orion) - (2) - July 19, 2002, 02:50:43 PM EDT
                 I am your long lost sister - (Dark Phoenix 2) - (1) - July 30, 2002, 04:05:44 PM EDT
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         They just are - (orion) - July 18, 2002, 12:28:09 PM EDT
         The Katt knows! - (orion) - (5) - July 18, 2002, 07:33:29 PM EDT
             Cute, but not to the point - (tjsinclair) - (4) - July 18, 2002, 09:52:12 PM EDT
                 But I already have it! - (snork) - (3) - July 19, 2002, 12:06:17 PM EDT
                     Good point - (tjsinclair) - (1) - July 19, 2002, 05:17:56 PM EDT
                         Can't argue with that - (snork) - July 21, 2002, 12:33:40 AM EDT
                     Yeah I know - (tuberculosis) - July 23, 2002, 05:09:37 PM EDT

It's like there's nothing you can do about that joke. It's coming and you just have to stand there.
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