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     Moot point now. - (inthane-chan) - (5)
         Dirty needle valves in the carb - (drewk)
         This the one that sat for ~3 months with the dead battery? - (Another Scott)
         This is right out of the My car book - (Ashton)
         And the answer is... - (inthane-chan) - (1)
             Vacuum problem then. Crikey! *HATE'EM* -NT - (folkert)
     is this the widget in question? Edit for more info - (boxley) - (7)
         No. - (pwhysall)
         another method to get yer car - (boxley) - (2)
             I dunno. - (pwhysall) - (1)
                 this is a method to clone the imobilizer rfid - (boxley)
         Think I grok your point.. - (Ashton) - (2)
             Another way to look at it. - (static) - (1)
                 Yes, I think I get the probability game == stall-for-time - (Ashton)
     Falling Car Crime In The UK & The Great Insurance Ripoff - (pwhysall) - (2)
         Over here the insurance rate argument is often... - (Another Scott) - (1)
             It is true - (ben_tilly)
     Can I trust this? - (ben_tilly) - (165)
         Dunno, but seems pretty low. - (Another Scott) - (1)
             No trade-in - (ben_tilly)
         No - (broomberg) - (1)
             Thought not :-) - (ben_tilly)
         Can you get a written quote? - (pwhysall) - (2)
             It is here as well...but there are ways around that... -NT - (ben_tilly) - (1)
                 Troof. These are CAR DEALERS we're talking about, after all. -NT - (pwhysall)
         Maybe - - (Ashton) - (8)
             Am I being too picky? - (ben_tilly) - (7)
                 That depends. - (pwhysall) - (2)
                     Right. I just hate spending money. - (ben_tilly) - (1)
                         Re: Right. I just hate spending money. - (Ashton)
                 Don't do it - (broomberg) - (2)
                     Good points - (ben_tilly) - (1)
                         Just be a reasonable alternative - (broomberg)
                 Don't choose between sizes based on price. - (Another Scott)
         If you are paying cash - (boxley) - (5)
             Re: "tell them that you are comparing" - (a6l6e6x) - (4)
                 I didnt even look at GM even tho I get the discount - (boxley) - (1)
                     Better than Fords - (tuberculosis)
                 There is a *reason* that GM is desperate - (ben_tilly) - (1)
                     No argument there. Last one I owned was a 1980 Citation. -NT - (a6l6e6x)
         Was price quoted on one of the demo models? - (jbrabeck) - (1)
             Will check on that - (ben_tilly)
         now have you looked at khia's more car less price - (boxley) - (17)
             Re: now have you looked at khia's more car less price - (Yendor)
             Kia, not Khia - (broomberg) - (7)
                 What, you never heard of a Garmann Khia? :) -NT - (a6l6e6x) - (6)
                     well I meant the Korean not the Carmen:-) -NT - (boxley)
                     No, but I have heard of a VW Karmen-Ghia. -NT - (folkert) - (4)
                         No you haven't; Alex had it right. - (CRConrad) - (3)
                             My favorite Picker of Nits! -NT - (folkert) - (1)
                                 Bah, I bet you say that to *all* the girls! - (CRConrad)
                             That's a Bingo! -NT - (a6l6e6x)
             That's the life span of an American car - (tuberculosis)
             No, and quality matters - (ben_tilly) - (6)
                 Re: No, and quality matters - (dws) - (1)
                     On Hyundai... - (pwhysall)
                 they wouldnt offer such a warranty if they expected expensiv - (boxley) - (3)
                     Actually, no - (broomberg)
                     Point - (ben_tilly) - (1)
                         didnt know about the milage, mind changed -NT - (boxley)
         Probably add local delivery, taxes and tags. - (bepatient) - (71)
             And it will never, ever break. - (pwhysall) - (70)
                 Depends. - (Another Scott) - (66)
                     Re: Depends. - (Ashton) - (1)
                         Werd. - (pwhysall)
                     Sure it's a wheel bearing? - (Steve Lowe) - (63)
                         Seconded.. though usually.. those 'click' not whine (?) - (Ashton) - (60)
                             Most interesting... - (pwhysall) - (59)
                                 Can't you weird Brit-peeples say "left" and "right"? - (CRConrad) - (58)
                                     Dear CRC - (pwhysall) - (51)
                                         I bet he has a really clean house! -NT - (bionerd) - (50)
                                             Oh, bullcrap. So, silly vego-person, can *you*... - (CRConrad) - (49)
                                                 You need to turn up your humor detector. :-) -NT - (Another Scott)
                                                 Stop being a knobhead, CRC. - (pwhysall) - (37)
                                                     He's not he is being CRC so leave him be -NT - (boxley)
                                                     You first, PeeWee. - (CRConrad) - (35)
                                                         Oh, give it a rest, ffs. - (pwhysall) - (34)
                                                             Any time. - (CRConrad) - (11)
                                                                 Re: Any time. - (pwhysall) - (9)
                                                                     AKA "I don't have any real answer". OK, noted. -NT - (CRConrad) - (6)
                                                                         Yellow flag thrown! - (bepatient) - (5)
                                                                             Bonus points awarded - (rcareaga) - (2)
                                                                                 Having at WHOM? - (pwhysall) - (1)
                                                                                     I stand corrected - (rcareaga)
                                                                             Oh, and by the way ... - (drewk) - (1)
                                                                                 ICLRPD (new thread) - (boxley)
                                                                     No, no, no. - (admin) - (1)
                                                                         ROFL! - (folkert)
                                                                 And there we are. - (mmoffitt)
                                                             Normal usage? Not here. - (ben_tilly) - (21)
                                                                 ICLRPD (new thread) - (CRConrad)
                                                                 So I guess... - (admin) - (19)
                                                                     Furlongs -NT - (drewk) - (1)
                                                                         no. - (pwhysall)
                                                                     You're risking a barrage of Norse longboat vituperation. ;) - (Another Scott) - (1)
                                                                         Keeps the LRPDs coming, dunnit? -NT - (admin)
                                                                     thats knot a good measurement -NT - (boxley)
                                                                     Um, actually, I think that your guess was backwards - (ben_tilly) - (13)
                                                                         I had it backwards, actually. - (pwhysall) - (1)
                                                                             what no fenders or wheel wells hood or trunk? -NT - (boxley)
                                                                         Confused? No. - (admin) - (10)
                                                                             Kind of invalidates your parallel, doesn't it though? - (CRConrad) - (9)
                                                                                 It's called "hyperbole". HTH! -NT - (admin) - (8)
                                                                                     OK, that's another word for it. Thanks! - (CRConrad) - (7)
                                                                                         Whatever gets you through the day. - (admin) - (6)
                                                                                             I think you're forgetting the most salient detail here... - (CRConrad) - (5)
                                                                                                 Ha, nice try. - (admin) - (4)
                                                                                                     Not even a "nice try" from you, though. - (CRConrad) - (3)
                                                                                                         Sorry, not my conversation, yours. -NT - (admin) - (2)
                                                                                                             Ha ha, very funny. But, hey, if you're granting... - (CRConrad) - (1)
                                                                                                                 No, you mistake my meaning. - (admin)
                                                 Yeah, actually I did understand what Peter was talking about - (bionerd) - (9)
                                                     ... - (admin)
                                                     You keep coming back to that. - (pwhysall)
                                                     Errrrmh, <cough>... ummm - (folkert)
                                                     Oh, you're all just basking in your cleverness, arent you? -NT - (bionerd) - (4)
                                                         They're sure basking in something! - (Nightowl)
                                                         Had I seen it in time, I too would have been sorely tempted. -NT - (CRConrad)
                                                         poor fellas cant tell the difference between an adjective - (boxley) - (1)
                                                             If you've got... - (pwhysall)
                                                     OK,w/ that admission you can to call me (or NE1) one too! :) -NT - (CRConrad)
                                     Oh *absolutely* gibber the Norse longboat terminology at us -NT - (drewk) - (4)
                                         ICLFRPD (new thread) - (pwhysall)
                                         Uh, that would be Larboard/Starboard, Lubber Boy -NT - (tuberculosis) - (2)
                                             nope havn/styrbord larboard is the same -NT - (boxley) - (1)
                                                 Not so - (tuberculosis)
                                     Doubly so when they drive on the wrong side of the road -NT - (ben_tilly)
                         It seems like a wheel bearing. - (Another Scott) - (1)
                             The wheel bearing's fine. Needs a rear McPherson strut. (new thread) - (Another Scott)
                 Consumer Reports likes them - (ben_tilly) - (2)
                     Re: Consumer Reports likes them - (lincoln) - (1)
                         Means it is even better than advertised. :-) -NT - (ben_tilly)
         Internet/Fleet sales is the way to go - (tonytib) - (6)
             that's how I bought my '96 Nissan Altima - (cforde) - (2)
                 '96 Nissan Altima - (Ashton) - (1)
                     ICLRPD (new thread) - (Steve Lowe)
             Over here, one avoids ex-fleet cars like t'plague. - (pwhysall) - (2)
                 Please read more carefully - (tonytib) - (1)
                     Over here... - (pwhysall)
         Some things I saw. - (static)
         It looks like I can trust it (is LoJack worthwhile?) - (ben_tilly) - (34)
             Yes. Do you know what it is/does? -NT - (folkert) - (1)
                 I know what it is/does - (ben_tilly)
             Do you know of anyone out there that's had a car stolen? - (Another Scott) - (3)
                 This *IS* Los Angeles - (ben_tilly)
                 It does happen. - (admin) - (1)
                     Had my new '87 'stang stolen... - (folkert)
             Take it - (broomberg) - (2)
                 I believe there is no sticker with LoJack - (ben_tilly) - (1)
                     If professional thieves get it, it won't matter -NT - (drewk)
             I *would* have said yes, but look at the insurance company - (drewk) - (1)
                 Yabut, there is a twist - (ben_tilly)
             Aren't taxes computed on the before rebate price? -NT - (lincoln) - (1)
                 Yes. -NT - (ben_tilly)
             If the insurance company thinks so, they'll pay for it - (tuberculosis) - (20)
                 How odd all this is. - (pwhysall) - (19)
                     if the car starts by inserting a key into a tumbler - (boxley) - (15)
                         Slide hammer is faster than a drill. -NT - (hnick)
                         Pair of scissors - (rcareaga)
                         OK. You're in. Now start it. - (pwhysall)
                         Don't work for modern anti-theft ignition killers. - (static) - (11)
                             That's certainly the case for my car. -NT - (pwhysall)
                             cant press the valet button? - (boxley) - (9)
                                 "Valet button"? - (pwhysall) - (7)
                                     what is an immobilizer - (boxley) - (6)
                                         Never heard of that. - (pwhysall) - (5)
                                             how is it connected to an immobilizer? a wire? -NT - (boxley) - (4)
                                                 Indeed. - (pwhysall) - (3)
                                                     and the laguage they speak is called voltage - (boxley) - (1)
                                                         Right. - (pwhysall)
                                                     is this the widget in question? (new thread) - (boxley)
                                 Don't have one of those. - (static)
                     Arse 1! -NT - (pwhysall)
                     Arse 2! -NT - (pwhysall)
                     Falling Car Crime In The UK & The Great Insurance Ripoff (new thread) - (pwhysall)
         Purchased - (ben_tilly) - (7)
             Congrats! -NT - (Another Scott)
             car dealers never lose :-) - (boxley) - (2)
                 He lost according to Toyota's figures - (ben_tilly) - (1)
                     Re: He lost according to Toyota's figures - (dws)
             suggestion.. - (cforde) - (2)
                 I'll definitely think about that - (ben_tilly)
                 ICLRPD (new thread) - (ben_tilly)
     usage of map software - (boxley) - (7)
         Re: usage of map software - (pwhysall) - (6)
             excellent! thank you - (boxley) - (5)
                 I would have thought I-85 to I-77 would be shorter. - (a6l6e6x) - (4)
                     that was for on the way back, are you going to be around? - (boxley) - (3)
                         Likely home, but not sure. - (a6l6e6x) - (2)
                             well if you are near - (boxley) - (1)
                                 Thanks! -NT - (a6l6e6x)
     Just wanted to see a LRPD in this forum ... - (drewk) - (2)
         Pshaw. That's just a baby thread. -NT - (Another Scott)
         It's about a car, right? -NT - (mmoffitt)
     Oh fer cryin out loud - (tuberculosis) - (3)
         No. (new thread) - (Another Scott)
         Killjoy. -NT - (mmoffitt)
         One might suppose - (Ashton)
     Who was it that was looking for cars? - (jbrabeck) - (6)
         No joke. - (a6l6e6x) - (5)
             Re: No joke. - (Steve Lowe)
             BMW's "iDrive" is Winders CE. - (Another Scott) - (1)
                 Well, that figures! -NT - (a6l6e6x)
             New excuse for speeding - (Steven A S) - (1)
                 Wouldn't work - (jbrabeck)
     Question about car shopping - (drewk) - (93)
         Been there - get the minivan - (jbrabeck)
         vehix advertises like crazy - (tuberculosis) - (1)
             Or 25% for a loaded Honda Pilot. -NT - (mmoffitt)
         gowith the freestar - (boxley) - (8)
             But have any of you *seen* the Freestyle? - (drewk) - (7)
                 I have seen it, test drove it,bought the freestar - (boxley)
                 Chrysler Pacifica or Dodge Magnum. - (folkert) - (1)
                     Same as the others - (drewk)
                 Fuel Economy - (jbrabeck)
                 CVT? - (admin) - (2)
                     There doesn't seem to be much real-world benefit yet. - (Another Scott) - (1)
                         That's the one. - (admin)
         www.autotrader.com? - (imric) - (2)
             Did you RTFP? I mentioned that. :-P -NT - (drewk) - (1)
                 huhuh. Yeah. huhuhuh. - (imric)
         Maybe Edmunds? - (Another Scott) - (6)
             That's what I'm starting to think - (drewk) - (5)
                 Just get the van. - (admin) - (4)
                     You lose - (drewk) - (3)
                         She said it herself: - (admin) - (2)
                             You didn't answer: have you actually *seen* the Freestyle? -NT - (drewk) - (1)
                                 Yeah, it looks like an SUV crossed with a wagon. -NT - (admin)
         Buy the van - (Steve Lowe)
         Re: Question about car shopping - (dws)
         Get a pickup - (pwhysall) - (3)
             :D -NT - (Steve Lowe)
             extended cab to keep dog and wife warm :-) -NT - (jbrabeck) - (1)
                 Re: extended cab to keep dog and wife warm :-) - (pwhysall)
         third row? - (Silverlock) - (52)
             Hey, only $18.5k! What a deal! -NT - (Another Scott)
             This is more efficient. - (mmoffitt) - (49)
                 Just tell me that those transistors aren't - (Ashton) - (1)
                     thats why my choice is better still uses tubes :-) -NT - (boxley)
                 druther have one of these - (boxley) - (43)
                     Looks noisy - (tuberculosis) - (42)
                         Since we're talking blue sky... - (Another Scott)
                         well yours looks pricy :-) - (boxley)
                         I'm partial to something more like one of... - (cforde) - (4)
                             45k and you have to assemble it yourself? - (boxley) - (2)
                                 balsa and fabric? - (cforde) - (1)
                                     Best construction materials! EVAR! - (folkert)
                             Verra nice - (Ashton)
                         Don't forget this one. - (mmoffitt) - (34)
                             Ah brute force - (tuberculosis) - (33)
                                 What I find interesting is ... - (mmoffitt) - (32)
                                     "pay so much to haul so little" - (Ashton)
                                     Bigger engines don't make planes go faster - (tuberculosis) - (30)
                                         s /emron/Imron :-) -NT - (Another Scott)
                                         Is the problem propeller pitch? - (drewk) - (2)
                                             Yep - new props with more "bite" - (tuberculosis) - (1)
                                                 So the problem is ... - (drewk)
                                         Hold it. - (mmoffitt) - (25)
                                             Re: Hold it. - (tuberculosis) - (24)
                                                 Agreed. -NT - (mmoffitt)
                                                 Uh, square law = Must *quadruple* power to double speed, no? -NT - (CRConrad) - (22)
                                                     Nah, make him try for 21025 hp -NT - (drewk) - (7)
                                                         Thing is, if you square it in kW, it makes only 15474.4 hp. - (CRConrad) - (5)
                                                             An 8-legged animal lifting a bucket that grows as it rises? -NT - (drewk) - (4)
                                                                 "Itsy Bitsy Sleipner..." ? - (CRConrad) - (3)
                                                                     I think he meant a 16-legged horse lifting a weight... -NT - (Another Scott)
                                                                     Defn: horsepower - (drewk) - (1)
                                                                         ..it's hard to get this stuff across to Fundies_____er, :-\ufffd -NT - (Ashton)
                                                         Turbine ---aaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhh--- Turbine. -NT - (mmoffitt)
                                                     Power required goes as cube of speed. - (Another Scott) - (12)
                                                         "cube of speed" - again, what units? km/h cubed != mph cubed - (CRConrad) - (11)
                                                             The linky explains all that. - (Another Scott) - (10)
                                                                 Oh fer cryin out loud (new thread) - (tuberculosis)
                                                                 Yup.. *bloody* pounds! and feet! + Another formula: - (Ashton) - (8)
                                                                     Neat. - (Another Scott) - (1)
                                                                         Funny you should mention.. - (Ashton)
                                                                     every redneck with a wrench knows that 14mm=* 9/16ths -NT - (boxley) - (5)
                                                                         Bah; old-Volvo fans know 14mm wrench will NOT fit 9/16 bolt! -NT - (CRConrad) - (4)
                                                                             horses duervers! fits just fine - (boxley) - (3)
                                                                                 Funny. Either your bolts or your wrenches are off measure. - (CRConrad) - (2)
                                                                                     try 13.8 mm if larger than, it would fit on would it? - (boxley) - (1)
                                                                                         No, IF 13.8 mm were larger than 14 mm then a 14 mm wrench... - (CRConrad)
                                                     OT: Hey CRC I'm looking for you in Open Forum - (jbrabeck)
                 Lemme guess - still no flush rivets - (tuberculosis)
                 If both endpoints are airports... -NT - (admin) - (1)
                     on mine you just need 170 meters of low grass. -NT - (boxley)
             NO, No, No.... - (folkert)
         Why "besides the front row"? Some weird Yank taboo...? -NT - (CRConrad) - (11)
             "Air bags" are known to kill small passengers. - (a6l6e6x) - (10)
                 Typical; "Why do the smart thing, when you can buy a tank?" - (CRConrad) - (9)
                     Middle seat in the back is safest, HTH! - (admin) - (6)
                         So, neither of you have read "Garp", I take it...? -NT - (CRConrad) - (5)
                             Ouch. -NT - (Another Scott) - (1)
                                 Yeah, well... And it HAD to be a friggin PV 544, dinnit? :-( -NT - (CRConrad)
                             Nope. - (admin) - (2)
                                 Yeah, well... *American* "safety information", you mean? -NT - (CRConrad) - (1)
                                     As opposed to "Garp"...? -NT - (admin)
                     You wanna get sued? - (drewk) - (1)
                         Yeah, lots of stuff comes with those stickers nowadays. - (CRConrad)
     The beret seems unlikely to land... - (ben_tilly) - (43)
         The Apple Pro keyboard plays nice with me. - (pwhysall) - (13)
             That's great for you - (ben_tilly) - (12)
                 Bite me, you miserable sod. - (pwhysall) - (3)
                     ;P - How does it feel to be on the other side of the BOOT? -NT - (folkert) - (1)
                         Not so bad... - (pwhysall)
                     That was not a boot - (ben_tilly)
                 Baby keep you up all night or something? - (admin) - (7)
                     No - (ben_tilly) - (6)
                         Sigh. - (pwhysall)
                         You might want to review #203693. He didn't do that... -NT - (Another Scott) - (3)
                             Reviewed - (ben_tilly) - (2)
                                 You're over-analysing. - (pwhysall)
                                 That's not the way I read it. - (Another Scott)
                         You're completely over-reacting - (admin)
         Hard drive size limitations. - (bepatient) - (19)
             Good points - (ben_tilly) - (18)
                 Deal not expected to repeat. - (bepatient) - (6)
                     That is almost workable - (ben_tilly) - (5)
                         I've generally had good luck with pcmcia - (bepatient) - (2)
                             So is the built-in wireless not working for you? - (ben_tilly) - (1)
                                 I haven't tried on the T40 - (bepatient)
                         I have a Broadcom chipset in mine - (Yendor) - (1)
                             I'd like to be able to entirely remove... - (ben_tilly)
                 IBM stockholders get deals. - (Another Scott) - (10)
                     Hmm... - (ben_tilly) - (9)
                         You probably need to compare specific machine numbers. - (Another Scott) - (2)
                             Point. How has your battery life been? -NT - (ben_tilly) - (1)
                                 Can't complain. - (Another Scott)
                         There is a backup plan for IBM. - (a6l6e6x) - (5)
                             That sounds like a very nice deal! - (ben_tilly) - (4)
                                 Take a look at this thread at Gillmor's blog. - (Another Scott) - (1)
                                     It was, it confirms my thinking :-) -NT - (ben_tilly)
                                 Re: Sent! -NT - (a6l6e6x) - (1)
                                     received! -NT - (ben_tilly)
         another question - (boxley) - (4)
             Cost is not the issue with your scenario - (ben_tilly) - (3)
                 Just wait until he figures out how to climb... - (admin) - (2)
                     I'm planning that as well... - (ben_tilly)
                     That doesn't work - (jake123)
         Thinkpad. - (ubernostrum) - (1)
             So far I have several good reports on thinkpads... - (ben_tilly)
         HP Laptop NC6000 - (lister) - (1)
             That looks interesting as well, thanks -NT - (ben_tilly)
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