That is almost workable

Post #203,855 by ben_tilly 4/18/05 8:32:32 PM Reply	That is almost workable You're right about the price point, it is nice. Unfortunately if [link\|http://cmb.phys.cwru.edu/kisner/linux/compaq-r3000/\|http://cmb.phys.cwru...nux/compaq-r3000/] is to be believed, the wireless networking is from an internal Broadcom chip which is not supported under Linux. I've heard that getting an internal networking card working is significantly nicer than playing around with external ones. Cheers, Ben I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
Post #203,858 by bepatient 4/18/05 9:36:51 PM Reply	I've generally had good luck with pcmcia I've had some hiccups lately with MEPIS...but not alot of issues with vanilla debian...which I intend to revert my other TP to when I get a round tuit. A vanilla ($35) linksys 802b card is well supported and generally issue free. The problems arrived with the introduction of the higher speed chipsets. If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. _{Fudd's First Law of Opposition} [link\|mailto:bepatient@aol.com\|BePatient]
Post #203,885 by ben_tilly 4/19/05 11:16:14 AM Reply	So is the built-in wireless not working for you? I've had other reports where it does work for people on newer versions of Linux. I'll go with pcmcia if I have to, but it would be nice not to have to. Cheers, Ben I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
Post #203,935 by bepatient 4/19/05 3:03:38 PM Reply	I haven't tried on the T40 since it has only been a couple of weeks since I installed the internal card. I've been using the PCMCIA on my network for years with no issues...and I believe that the chipset on the IBM card is supported at 802.11b...not sure about the higher speed capability. Karsten popped a card into his penguin laptop and was on...and that party was several years back. Support for the cards is pretty good. If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. _{Fudd's First Law of Opposition} [link\|mailto:bepatient@aol.com\|BePatient]
Post #203,859 by Yendor 4/18/05 9:51:38 PM Reply	I have a Broadcom chipset in mine [link\|http://search.hp.com/query.html?col=alldocs&charset=iso-8859-1&hpvc=US+-+English&la=en&qs=&lk=1&rf=0&uf=1&nh=10&st=1&qt=HP+Pavilion+zd8080US+Notebook+PC&ocoldqt=zd8080&oc=441758\|HP zd8080us]. You're right that the Broadcom chipset isn't supported natively under Linux. So the wireless card works, but it's using the Windows driver and ndiswireless. It's easy to use and works well, from what I've been able to tell. The biggest problem I've had is not being able to connect to our wireless network at the office, on which the wireless access point has a 40-bit WEP key installed (what's the point?). So instead of using our own network, I just hijack another unprotected wireless network in the same building. I can reach everything I need from there anyway. -YendorMike "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin, 1759 Historical Review of Pennsylvania
Post #203,884 by ben_tilly 4/19/05 11:13:54 AM Reply	I'd like to be able to entirely remove... the infestation from Redmond. Using a proprietary Windows driver that comes with limitations wouldn't be my first choice. Or second choice. For instance if I ever travel in hotels, I'd want to be able to use my laptop with hotel wireless networks. (I've spent enough time stuck in hotel rooms this year to appreciate the value of doing so.) If silly WEP encryption is what they use, I'd want to work with that rather than have to find a workaround. If I had no other choice, then I'd do that. But I do, so I won't. (However I will be writing the obligatory letter to Compaq which they will promptly discard in the circular file because they don't care.) Cheers, Ben I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)

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