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New he wasnt "over the edge" he has used those same
words in that way for 20 years, the wolfman in DC was doing that stuff in 1997. Nothing new so why is it jut now considered over the line.
thanx,
bill
when I was young I envisioned myself as the embodiment of Trinity, Now I realize I have turned into the Bambino
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New Point boxley.
I don't like Howard. I still want him on the air. Mostly because he pisses people off. Me included.
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-jb4

George W. "I cannot tell a lie"
George W. B. "I cannot tell a lie from lie related program activities"
New Greaseman???
That who you mean in DC?

Not quite. Stern has progressed. To the point where the term "shock jock" doesn't apply to him. He's danced that line so long that noone remembers its there.

Its true that the behavior wouldn't have warranted a second look 6 months ago. But the huge fine levied in FL against "sponge" and the potential for this to give the FCC back some teeth has got the media-megas very very scared.

But again, there should be a line, in my opinion. It has nothing to do with liking or disliking him. I often listen...and when he's funny...he is >really< funny.

Its not as simple as telling people to "turn it off". Wish it was that simple.

If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. Fudd's First Law of Opposition

It goes in, it must come out.Teslacle's Deviant to Fudd's Law

[link|mailto:bepatient@aol.com|BePatient]

New sorry greaseman
gay washington drunk cop bit puking all over a white tourist in their car and weenie wagging them, funny as hell but over the line.
thanx,
bill
when I was young I envisioned myself as the embodiment of Trinity, Now I realize I have turned into the Bambino
questions, help? [link|mailto:pappas@catholic.org|email pappas at catholic.org]
New That was a good one!
He had a few that went a bit far...and in the end it cost him a few years off the air.


If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. Fudd's First Law of Opposition

It goes in, it must come out.Teslacle's Deviant to Fudd's Law

[link|mailto:bepatient@aol.com|BePatient]

New Isn't the 'real'-ish problem that, you can't legislate
either taste or (any two peoples' same idea of) decency - though a Purchaser of Entertainment Can fire you? And if scared by a chance.. of loss-of-profits: Will?
(So how is a Giant Corporation different from a Giant Government, as wielder of Power to induce conformity?)

Now if we could legislate against either hypocrisy or sanctimony..

I see: a Lose/Lose situation + infinite tongue wagging signifying nada, but aiming for More Homogenization. One theme 24/7: bland.


Blah.
New Thats just it...
You equate Howard's ability to tell lesbian jokes and to have Jenna Jameson talk about only taking it up the a** from her boyfriend with variety in radio.

I don't.

Like there have never been funny guys that didn't tell dirty jokes.




If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. Fudd's First Law of Opposition

It goes in, it must come out.Teslacle's Deviant to Fudd's Law

[link|mailto:bepatient@aol.com|BePatient]

New No, actually I don't 'equate' such.
It just may be the price that a no-class majority forces all to pay, until some hypothetical time when .. .. .?. .. they develop some class, indicate that they don't Want to hear female dissing as-if it were a joke. After all, Barnum was proven right about such matters.

What I don't want is - John Ashcroft and ilk deciding *either* what is funny or what might 'have class'. I don't actually want a bunch of Corporate ad execs deciding either.. but we have accepted that them as have skimmed the most $$ get to pick the crap they put on "the people's airwaves" .. somehow we Let That Continue to happen, making a gift of that resource. That's US.

I predict it will be a long wait; we're comfy with pure shit as 'advertainment' - and it Sells So Well - and the MBAs Love That. Why.. what else could matter more to a mercantile group, striving for Efficiency in cash/quarter?

(Unless we decided that, say, a la BBC and a Set Tax - we Do Deserve a noncommercial, properly funded alternative to the AM-radio and Howard Sternish folks and their merchandising of genitalia for gigabucks. Referendum time?)

OK maybe in another couple years we can ask again.

(Seen Elimidate? there's what the up and coming are like. Kinda makes ya proud, no?)
New That corporate bland is what we get >today<
...because of the pervasiveness of the potty joke that is Stern.

If you don't have him as #1 in your market, you have someone trying to be like him to be #1 in the market.

Its like the train wreck. You can't help but to look. Thats what I equate his success to...you know you don't want to listen...but you just can't help yourself...you might miss seeing that actual severed head ;-)

He really >isn't< that good.

If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. Fudd's First Law of Opposition

It goes in, it must come out.Teslacle's Deviant to Fudd's Law

[link|mailto:bepatient@aol.com|BePatient]

New No, he really *isn't*
IM hallowed O. I believe I may have seen about 8 minutes, lifetime total of this twit - that's enough to correlate his stylelessness with all previous experiences of overtly smug [\ufffd DRL narcissists] in flagrante.

That he is Popular says.. well you know. Hog in trough game; that's US. But then we simultaneously horrify the rest of the world - while entertaining too: by the fact of what entertains US; not the content. Our 'footprint' precedes and sabotages any efforts at diplomatic explaining of larger issues, is my guess..
Recursive dissonance?

As you say, like watching Plan 9 from Outer Space - the near-worst of the worst becomes Entertainment! And we seem to have run with that perverse logic ever since. After all, it's just filler between ads, right - those "people's airwaves" cha cha.


(Check out Elimidate.. but not right after a meal, OK?)

moi

OK - I've watched Plan 9 at least twice. Too.
Now ... The Blob [is that a metaphor for Walmart?]
New ICLRPD (new thread)
Created as new thread #143938 titled [link|/forums/render/content/show?contentid=143938|ICLRPD]

If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. Fudd's First Law of Opposition

It goes in, it must come out.Teslacle's Deviant to Fudd's Law

[link|mailto:bepatient@aol.com|BePatient]

     Howard Stern yanked - (deSitter) - (51)
         pre-election sanctimony - (hnick)
         Ran him out of Denver after Columbine -NT - (Steve Lowe) - (8)
             And good riddance - (tuberculosis) - (7)
                 Funny you should say that - (Nightowl) - (6)
                     What's the point of even turning the radio on? - (deSitter) - (1)
                         Well, I have reasons to - (Nightowl)
                     Say WHAT?!? - (jb4) - (3)
                         Re: Say WHAT?!? - (Nightowl) - (2)
                             Thanks. You're right: He's whacked! - (jb4) - (1)
                                 Believe me, we tried - (Nightowl)
         I'm proud of them - (Nightowl) - (21)
             You would be. -NT - (CRConrad)
             Proud of what? I dont find Stern indecent or Bubba - (boxley) - (8)
                 No thanks, I like Nightowl - (Nightowl)
                 It's not that he's rude - (pwhysall) - (6)
                     much prefered bubba over stern - (boxley) - (5)
                         If you read my post more closely - (Nightowl) - (4)
                             church lady, think david spade in drag Saterday Nite Live - (boxley) - (3)
                                 church lady, think david spade in drag Saterday Nite Live - (Nightowl) - (2)
                                     the fines were just announced and you being in the business - (boxley) - (1)
                                         ...fines were just announced and you being in the business - (Nightowl)
             Agree but wouldn't say it was indecent - (deSitter) - (10)
                 I understand that - (Nightowl) - (9)
                     You're female, right? - (Ashton) - (3)
                         naw she smells a fart and thinks its roses by conditioning -NT - (boxley)
                         Re: You're female, right? - (Nightowl) - (1)
                             maybe in buttfsck missouri nude is not accepted - (boxley)
                     She didn't 'change the world', I'd say - (Meerkat) - (4)
                         Re: She didn't 'change the world', I'd say - (Nightowl) - (2)
                             Not even sure if SuperBowl was shown on free-to-air TV - (Meerkat) - (1)
                                 Ah ok, that helps - (Nightowl)
                         Same here - (pwhysall)
         I don't see this as true censorship. - (rickw) - (3)
             I watched Pat Robertson and Foulwell - (boxley) - (2)
                 Re: I watched Pat Robertson and Foulwell - (rickw) - (1)
                     so rush limbough should be off the air as well? -NT - (boxley)
         Re: Howard Stern yanked - (pwhysall) - (12)
             You obviously listened ;-) - (bepatient) - (11)
                 he wasnt "over the edge" he has used those same - (boxley) - (10)
                     Point boxley. - (Silverlock)
                     Greaseman??? - (bepatient) - (8)
                         sorry greaseman - (boxley) - (1)
                             That was a good one! - (bepatient)
                         Isn't the 'real'-ish problem that, you can't legislate - (Ashton) - (5)
                             Thats just it... - (bepatient) - (4)
                                 No, actually I don't 'equate' such. - (Ashton) - (3)
                                     That corporate bland is what we get >today< - (bepatient) - (2)
                                         No, he really *isn't* - (Ashton) - (1)
                                             ICLRPD (new thread) - (bepatient)
         Hey Boxley... you might be interested in this - (Nightowl) - (1)
             stern lost 6 of 40+ stations - (boxley)

Nelson is one of those insulting, conceited, impatient, coffee-drinking, cell-phone-using, Jaguar-driving advertising executives that you find in only two places: the movies and real life. His motto is: Speed up and smell the coffee.
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