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     Hey Admin - OO Awk - (broomberg) - (4)
         Re: Hey Admin - OO Awk - (admin) - (3)
             The one that nearly always gives me a headache... - (folkert) - (2)
                 As I've told people before on that one: - (admin) - (1)
                     ICLRPD (new thread) - (jb4)
     Better way to do this? - (admin) - (2)
         Short of building your own parser... - (ChrisR)
         That looks pretty clean. - (static)
     Funny post - (tuberculosis) - (3)
         Needs to be in Wikipedia... - (imric)
         Better line - (drewk)
         Nailed it! - (Arkadiy)
     Graphing in Javascript using Canvas Tag - (tuberculosis) - (82)
         Nifty, but next to useless, unfortunately. - (admin) - (8)
             Only if you're supporting broken browsers - (tuberculosis) - (7)
                 Er... - (admin) - (6)
                     Yes, this is a toy - (tuberculosis) - (5)
                         What about SVG? - (ChrisR) - (4)
                             Its dead, Jim. - (tuberculosis) - (3)
                                 It's dead on the web. - (pwhysall)
                                 Standardization process is broken - (JayMehaffey) - (1)
                                     Have you ever served on standards committee? - (tuberculosis)
         And it crashes older browsers.... - (Simon_Jester) - (72)
             Cool! Makes you wanna upgrade! - (tuberculosis) - (71)
                 No. Makes me think the web designer is a jackass. -NT - (ben_tilly) - (69)
                     If a browser crashes - its not the designer's fault - (tuberculosis) - (68)
                         Strongly disagree - (ben_tilly) - (67)
                             I think we have different quality expectations of software - (tuberculosis) - (66)
                                 I seem to recall... - (Yendor) - (1)
                                     If it's valid HTML/CSS, that's a browser bug. - (pwhysall)
                                 Agree on the crash thing. - (pwhysall)
                                 I agree with you about well-written software - (ben_tilly) - (62)
                                     Not blaming the users per se - (tuberculosis) - (61)
                                         cf. Ada - (jb4)
                                         member of a working group now, know what ya mean -NT - (boxley)
                                         You might not be blaming the users... - (ben_tilly) - (58)
                                             problem is you are all not willing to use microsoft only -NT - (boxley) - (1)
                                                 The right analogy for that is... - (ben_tilly)
                                             Or the user is enabling bad coders - (tuberculosis) - (55)
                                                 Suppose I'm a user using an old browser... - (ben_tilly) - (54)
                                                     By this logic we should all stick to html 3.2 forever - (tuberculosis) - (53)
                                                         Go back to the root conversation - (ben_tilly) - (52)
                                                             And it hasn't been touched in over 5 years - (tuberculosis) - (49)
                                                                 In other words the 1% figure was a red herring - (ben_tilly) - (48)
                                                                     I'm not the one doing the punishing in this scenario - (tuberculosis) - (4)
                                                                         You're not? - (ben_tilly) - (3)
                                                                             One user's pain is another's pleasure - (tuberculosis) - (2)
                                                                                 Far too often... - (ben_tilly) - (1)
                                                                                     He should not have to -NT - (broomberg)
                                                                     Is high-bandwidth streaming video a punishment? - (drewk) - (22)
                                                                         If you want to limit yourself... do that. - (folkert) - (18)
                                                                             No, they're being punsished - (drewk) - (17)
                                                                                 ICLRPDs. (new thread) - (Another Scott)
                                                                                 I wonder how Ben feels about stations - (tuberculosis) - (3)
                                                                                     Seems the US government is shoving this one - (folkert) - (1)
                                                                                         IIRC - (jb4)
                                                                                     I think that the switch is fine... - (ben_tilly)
                                                                                 No, it is not punishing them. - (folkert) - (11)
                                                                                     I think you summarized my position pretty well - (ben_tilly) - (10)
                                                                                         Firefox is a 5MB download that works well on older computers -NT - (pwhysall) - (9)
                                                                                             Not on my old system - (ben_tilly) - (8)
                                                                                                 Re: Not on my old system - (pwhysall) - (7)
                                                                                                     Is there a reason? - (ben_tilly) - (6)
                                                                                                         "Hu-mour". -NT - (admin) - (5)
                                                                                                             Can't be. It isn't funny. -NT - (ben_tilly) - (4)
                                                                                                                 Beg to differ - (drewk)
                                                                                                                 Maybe to *you* it isn't. - (admin) - (2)
                                                                                                                     of course they are misfunctioning, he's a father now -NT - (boxley) - (1)
                                                                                                                         Agreed - (broomberg)
                                                                         No - (ben_tilly) - (2)
                                                                             Nobody? - (drewk) - (1)
                                                                                 People aren't doing that? - (ben_tilly)
                                                                     I disagree - (pwhysall) - (1)
                                                                         Yes, the product is broken. But... - (ben_tilly)
                                                                     Also, aren't the users *choosing* to use a broken product? -NT - (pwhysall) - (17)
                                                                         Same question I offered Todd - (ben_tilly) - (16)
                                                                             Firefox, Opera, Safari, Camino -NT - (pwhysall) - (9)
                                                                                 Firefox, Safari, and Camino at least are broken - (admin) - (7)
                                                                                     Firefox and Safari - (tuberculosis) - (6)
                                                                                         Firefox dumps core fairly regularly for me - (ben_tilly) - (1)
                                                                                             Firefox/Deerpark 1.5 beta weird for me on MEPIS. - (Another Scott)
                                                                                         Completely missing the point. - (admin) - (3)
                                                                                             Yep, I don't get your point - (tuberculosis) - (2)
                                                                                                 Re: Yep, I don't get your point - (admin) - (1)
                                                                                                     So I should probably add something to my webpage - (tuberculosis)
                                                                                 What Scott said - (ben_tilly)
                                                                             Epiphany -NT - (drewk) - (5)
                                                                                 I haven't used it yet but... - (ben_tilly) - (4)
                                                                                     Well I feel silly - (SpiceWare) - (3)
                                                                                         And now I feel silly as well - (ben_tilly) - (2)
                                                                                             Wheee! cha-ching cha-ching - (drewk) - (1)
                                                                                                 LOL - don't feel quite so silly anymore -NT - (SpiceWare)
                                                             He who pays the piper calls the tune. - (broomberg) - (1)
                                                                 I understand why it happens. I don't have to like it. -NT - (ben_tilly)
                 "The job is not done - (Arkadiy)
     Java begins its decline - (tuberculosis) - (15)
         Correction. eBay uses Java. -NT - (ben_tilly) - (6)
             Hmm, I thought it was .asp - (tuberculosis) - (5)
                 They did, but not the port you are thinking of - (ben_tilly) - (4)
                     Long road - (tuberculosis) - (3)
                         They throw Hardware at it. - (folkert) - (1)
                             Sun would be for the databases -NT - (ben_tilly)
                         I agree with all of that but... - (ben_tilly)
         So what do you think back-ends will be written in? -NT - (warmachine) - (7)
             SmallTALK. Duh. -NT - (pwhysall)
             Trend puts the lie - (tuberculosis)
             Trend puts the lie - (tuberculosis) - (4)
                 Hey, we heard you the first time! -NT - (jb4) - (3)
                     QWEST DSL - where you're never sure if you've sent - (tuberculosis) - (2)
                         I open another browser tab to check on such occasions... -NT - (Another Scott)
                         Yeah, I need to fix that. -NT - (admin)
     Need some help with an ASP.Net form - (lincoln)
     Anybody ever parsed a DTD? - (tuberculosis) - (12)
         Not in polite company. -NT - (pwhysall) - (1)
             ICLRPD: Not in polite company. (new thread) - (Steve Lowe)
         I've parsed RTF - (warmachine) - (2)
             ya gotta start somewhere :-) -NT - (SpiceWare)
             I'm sorry! - (Steve Lowe)
         Yup - (drewk) - (3)
             XML murders relational normalization thinking - (tablizer) - (2)
                 Web pages aren't meant to be relational - (tuberculosis) - (1)
                     and it shows -NT - (tablizer)
         DTD is an old muddled standard - (ChrisR) - (2)
             And to make it extra fun - (tuberculosis) - (1)
                 Well, they did label it as Transitional... - (ChrisR)
     How do you manage database changes? - (admin) - (21)
         Re: How do you manage database changes? - (JimWeirich) - (11)
             Mind responding to some rails criticism? - (ben_tilly) - (10)
                 I would be interested to see... - (admin) - (8)
                     A Nested Comments Example - (JimWeirich) - (7)
                         Either one of us is missing something, or Rails is magic - (drewk) - (6)
                             I Missed Something - (JimWeirich) - (5)
                                 Adjacency trees are simple. - (admin) - (4)
                                     Re: Adjacency trees are simple. - (JimWeirich) - (3)
                                         The arbitrary SQL somewhat answers my question... - (admin)
                                         Not what he meant - (drewk) - (1)
                                             Re: Not what he meant - (JimWeirich)
                 Re: Mind responding to some rails criticism? - (JimWeirich)
         Weekly change scripts - (Yendor) - (3)
             We do something like that. - (static) - (2)
                 Oh, *that* process will scale well :-/ -NT - (drewk) - (1)
                     Tell me about it. - (static)
         We make them independent of code, and do them first - (ben_tilly) - (2)
             Automated or no? -NT - (admin) - (1)
                 No - (ben_tilly)
         Two answers - (tuberculosis)
         Re: How do you manage database changes? - (dws)
     Perl Line Endings Puzzle - (pwhysall) - (7)
         There is a small program or Why reinvent the wheel? - (folkert) - (2)
             Small glitch. - (pwhysall) - (1)
                 He isn't talking Per on Windows dew-ma -NT - (folkert)
         Use binmode then print \\r\\n on line endings. -NT - (ben_tilly) - (1)
             Ta, that sounds like just the ticket. -NT - (pwhysall)
         A different reply... - (folkert)
         My Apologies to you Peter. - (folkert)
     Why in the heck doesn't this work? - (folkert) - (10)
         Here's something I do when working with Excess - (jb4)
         Everything after the counts are illegal. - (broomberg)
         Add more stuff to the GROUP BY - (ben_tilly) - (7)
             Beat ya -NT - (broomberg) - (6)
                 Yeah, yeah. I gave a longer answer. -NT - (ben_tilly) - (5)
                     I gave less on purpose. - (broomberg) - (4)
                         I just wanted to drive home... - (ben_tilly) - (3)
                             What? - (broomberg) - (2)
                                 Logic is distinct from visual impact. I was going for that. -NT - (ben_tilly) - (1)
                                     Oh. You were padding. Got it. -NT - (broomberg)
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