(new) Theory and Practice of Programming

Trac problem - (tonytib) - (2) - Feb. 28, 2006, 12:32:56 PM EST

Are they in the page source? - (folkert) - (1) - Feb. 28, 2006, 01:53:10 PM EST

In the template - (tonytib) - Feb. 28, 2006, 03:44:43 PM EST

<Bullwinkle>This time for sure!</Bullwinkle> - (tuberculosis) - (1) - Feb. 16, 2006, 01:38:04 AM EST

Been able to do this for a long time with Jython. -NT - (admin) - Feb. 16, 2006, 09:11:00 AM EST

Little peek at the future? - (tuberculosis) - (1) - Feb. 15, 2006, 05:35:54 PM EST

Sounds pretty cool. - (admin) - Feb. 15, 2006, 05:45:32 PM EST

Perl Q: can I define my own use() (and a bit more)? - (Arkadiy) - (6) - Feb. 13, 2006, 06:29:45 PM EST

All things are possible - (ben_tilly) - (5) - Feb. 13, 2006, 07:27:37 PM EST

Description of test steps - (Arkadiy) - (4) - Feb. 13, 2006, 08:49:21 PM EST

Ah, that makes sense - (ben_tilly) - (3) - Feb. 13, 2006, 11:04:43 PM EST

Well, not exactly what I had in mind... - (Arkadiy) - (2) - Feb. 14, 2006, 12:01:13 PM EST

You can get where you want to go - (ben_tilly) - (1) - Feb. 14, 2006, 06:35:14 PM EST

OK, I'll consider your idea - (Arkadiy) - Feb. 14, 2006, 09:19:17 PM EST

Important industry conference coming up - (tuberculosis) - (12) - Feb. 11, 2006, 04:30:19 PM EST

Anyone care to explain Waterfall... - (ChrisR) - (9) - Feb. 11, 2006, 04:37:22 PM EST

How much of it did you read? - (drewk) - (1) - Feb. 11, 2006, 04:59:29 PM EST

Barely skimmed - (ChrisR) - Feb. 11, 2006, 05:07:14 PM EST

You never heard of the waterfall methodology? - (tuberculosis) - (6) - Feb. 11, 2006, 05:08:03 PM EST

Most projects that I work... - (ChrisR) - (5) - Feb. 11, 2006, 05:14:36 PM EST

Near as I can tell - (tjsinclair) - (2) - Feb. 11, 2006, 10:50:36 PM EST

Which is like, never - (tuberculosis) - (1) - Feb. 11, 2006, 11:25:14 PM EST

I've seen it happen - (ben_tilly) - Feb. 13, 2006, 01:29:18 PM EST

Check the conference date anyway -NT - (drewk) - (1) - Feb. 12, 2006, 10:10:02 AM EST

Is that really needed? - (SpiceWare) - Feb. 12, 2006, 01:17:26 PM EST

sent boss the ink and requested tht the company send me - (boxley) - Feb. 11, 2006, 05:23:31 PM EST

Re: Important industry conference coming up - (dws) - Feb. 11, 2006, 11:57:41 PM EST

Best .NET language? - (JayMehaffey) - (5) - Feb. 9, 2006, 08:51:16 PM EST

Try IronPython? -NT - (ben_tilly) - Feb. 9, 2006, 09:05:38 PM EST

C# is the native language... - (ChrisR) - (3) - Feb. 9, 2006, 09:31:15 PM EST

Stick with C# - (lincoln) - (2) - March 3, 2006, 12:15:07 PM EST

VB.Net won't get phased out - (ChrisR) - March 3, 2006, 12:49:42 PM EST

That is what I'm hearing - (JayMehaffey) - March 4, 2006, 12:20:31 PM EST

Borland to sell off language lines. - (Another Scott) - (6) - Feb. 8, 2006, 10:07:35 AM EST

JBuilder jumped the shark... - (Yendor) - Feb. 8, 2006, 10:23:17 AM EST

CRC should buy it. - (jb4) - (4) - Feb. 8, 2006, 12:51:03 PM EST

Speaking of WordPerfect. - (Another Scott) - (3) - Feb. 8, 2006, 01:01:27 PM EST

<sigh> - (jb4) - (2) - Feb. 8, 2006, 01:56:33 PM EST

I miss "View Codes" -NT - (drewk) - (1) - Feb. 8, 2006, 06:45:11 PM EST

I believe OO.ov2 has 'em. - (folkert) - Feb. 8, 2006, 06:53:59 PM EST

"backshoring?" - (cforde) - (20) - Feb. 8, 2006, 01:38:43 AM EST

There are a lot of disasters out there - (ben_tilly) - (19) - Feb. 8, 2006, 01:46:16 AM EST

Which came first? - (drewk) - (18) - Feb. 8, 2006, 09:40:17 AM EST

Your bet is wrong - (ben_tilly) - (17) - Feb. 8, 2006, 05:11:11 PM EST

Call me a cynic - (drewk) - (9) - Feb. 8, 2006, 06:42:04 PM EST

"Okay, you're a cynic." There, now no one else has to do it. -NT - (drewk) - Feb. 8, 2006, 06:42:36 PM EST

No, I'll just call you wrong. :-P - (ben_tilly) - (7) - Feb. 8, 2006, 08:48:50 PM EST

Okay, my statement was too broad - (drewk) - Feb. 9, 2006, 09:30:56 AM EST

Re: No, I'll just call you wrong. :-P - (JimWeirich) - (5) - Feb. 10, 2006, 05:10:23 PM EST

We're mostly in agreement. - (ben_tilly) - (4) - Feb. 13, 2006, 01:36:39 PM EST

That can't be true - (drewk) - (3) - Feb. 13, 2006, 02:01:31 PM EST

PHB meets reality. Reality ignores PHB. -NT - (ben_tilly) - (2) - Feb. 13, 2006, 02:05:36 PM EST

Damnfrigafraggamumblesputtercheckboxesfrigafraggamumble! -NT - (jb4) - Feb. 13, 2006, 02:30:10 PM EST

ICLRPD (new thread) - (jb4) - Feb. 13, 2006, 02:28:49 PM EST

question "waterfall" by looking at the discussion - (boxley) - (6) - Feb. 8, 2006, 09:47:47 PM EST

Same thing - (broomberg) - (5) - Feb. 8, 2006, 10:00:19 PM EST

sheesh reinventing the 1970 wheel :-) new name to me anyway -NT - (boxley) - (4) - Feb. 8, 2006, 10:06:40 PM EST

Was coined in 1970 - (broomberg) - Feb. 8, 2006, 10:19:53 PM EST

All you need to know - (altmann) - (2) - Feb. 9, 2006, 01:16:30 AM EST

Do the Agile guys picket the conference? ;-) - (jb4) - Feb. 9, 2006, 11:40:49 AM EST

Cute - (broomberg) - Feb. 9, 2006, 12:32:11 PM EST

Kristen Nygaard and Programmable interfaces - (systems) - (86) - Feb. 1, 2006, 05:14:27 AM EST

What about his history is interesting? - (ben_tilly) - (85) - Feb. 1, 2006, 09:49:24 PM EST

Re: What about his history is interesting? - (systems) - (84) - Feb. 2, 2006, 03:40:40 AM EST

You would do better to read Alan Kay - (tuberculosis) - (82) - Feb. 2, 2006, 04:04:27 PM EST

Wow. - (Arkadiy) - (81) - Feb. 4, 2006, 08:59:38 PM EST

Did you see HTML on the list? - (ben_tilly) - (79) - Feb. 6, 2006, 04:09:49 PM EST

OK, could you explain? - (Arkadiy) - (78) - Feb. 11, 2006, 07:03:26 PM EST

I think the point is that they're tools that are pretty easy - (jake123) - Feb. 11, 2006, 07:24:33 PM EST

Here's an example - (tuberculosis) - (76) - Feb. 11, 2006, 11:13:34 PM EST

lrpd the whole damn thing -NT - (boxley) - Feb. 11, 2006, 11:09:25 PM EST

I admire your pattern of use for computers - (Arkadiy) - (15) - Feb. 12, 2006, 12:45:02 PM EST

Not necessarily so (the "beyond 90%" part). - (pwhysall) - (10) - Feb. 12, 2006, 12:53:11 PM EST

I've got no Mac (yet?) - (Arkadiy) - (9) - Feb. 12, 2006, 03:29:48 PM EST

squeak.org -NT - (tuberculosis) - Feb. 12, 2006, 04:22:21 PM EST

Python? - (pwhysall) - (7) - Feb. 12, 2006, 05:19:59 PM EST

I've seen Python and Squeak - (Arkadiy) - (6) - Feb. 13, 2006, 06:27:52 PM EST

I'm shocked, sir. - (pwhysall) - (5) - Feb. 14, 2006, 01:44:42 AM EST

The 10% who understand things like - (Arkadiy) - (4) - Feb. 14, 2006, 12:07:20 PM EST

I've seen that smile - (drewk) - (1) - Feb. 14, 2006, 12:09:17 PM EST

The worst part is, she is righ. - (Arkadiy) - Feb. 14, 2006, 12:13:45 PM EST

DWIM?!? - (jb4) - (1) - Feb. 16, 2006, 02:09:11 PM EST

do what I meant -NT - (boxley) - Feb. 16, 2006, 02:13:24 PM EST

I don't believe the "crutch" is necessary - (tuberculosis) - Feb. 12, 2006, 04:21:57 PM EST

disagree, recently sent a example of an application - (boxley) - (2) - Feb. 12, 2006, 07:00:51 PM EST

A crutch - (Arkadiy) - Feb. 13, 2006, 06:29:12 PM EST

I need to have me a look at that - (pwhysall) - Feb. 14, 2006, 01:48:21 AM EST

I'd like that to be true, but don't think it is - (drewk) - (58) - Feb. 12, 2006, 07:25:14 PM EST

Ive used that treehouse design, didnt think too much of it - (boxley) - Feb. 12, 2006, 07:51:29 PM EST

You are a prisoner of your assumptions and conditioning - (tuberculosis) - (55) - Feb. 12, 2006, 11:53:09 PM EST

my point is that people use what they know - (boxley) - (2) - Feb. 13, 2006, 08:30:08 AM EST

Yes - exactly - (tuberculosis) - (1) - Feb. 13, 2006, 04:42:47 PM EST

sounds like a fax lnp project to me :-) -NT - (boxley) - Feb. 13, 2006, 06:24:45 PM EST

There's a central point we seem to differ on - (drewk) - (51) - Feb. 13, 2006, 09:04:53 AM EST

Yes, you can only think of one thing at a time - (tuberculosis) - (50) - Feb. 13, 2006, 04:55:43 PM EST

If I missed your point, it's because you forgot to make it - (drewk) - (49) - Feb. 13, 2006, 09:00:32 PM EST

But the applications *are* the walls - (tuberculosis) - (48) - Feb. 13, 2006, 10:50:05 PM EST

They're also inevitable - (drewk) - (47) - Feb. 14, 2006, 09:32:04 AM EST

Necessary for other reasons as well - (ben_tilly) - (8) - Feb. 14, 2006, 10:56:41 AM EST

There's a couple projects aimed at addressing security - (tuberculosis) - (2) - Feb. 14, 2006, 01:15:51 PM EST

Bah, break for lunch and people go and end the discussion -NT - (drewk) - (1) - Feb. 14, 2006, 01:42:58 PM EST

I've made it back to the office - gotta catch up! -NT - (tuberculosis) - Feb. 14, 2006, 03:09:58 PM EST

email has walls? think again - (boxley) - (4) - Feb. 14, 2006, 07:22:35 PM EST

That's what client-side encryption is for -NT - (drewk) - Feb. 14, 2006, 07:26:09 PM EST

As far as most recipients are concerned, it does - (ben_tilly) - (2) - Feb. 14, 2006, 07:29:26 PM EST

like windows, its the perception of security that counts -NT - (boxley) - (1) - Feb. 14, 2006, 08:25:23 PM EST

It is more complex than that - (ben_tilly) - Feb. 14, 2006, 09:50:40 PM EST

I was the king of level 1 help desk - (tuberculosis) - (37) - Feb. 14, 2006, 01:10:28 PM EST

Followed a link from the google search - (drewk) - (35) - Feb. 14, 2006, 01:41:29 PM EST

Hey, I had people who didn't know a menu from a window - (tuberculosis) - (34) - Feb. 14, 2006, 02:03:30 PM EST

I don't want to keep reinventing things - (drewk) - (33) - Feb. 14, 2006, 02:18:58 PM EST

Taxes are probably a bad example. - (Another Scott) - (32) - Feb. 14, 2006, 02:59:29 PM EST

Depends on what you want an example of - (drewk) - (31) - Feb. 14, 2006, 04:05:05 PM EST

Bingo - (tuberculosis) - (30) - Feb. 14, 2006, 09:32:13 PM EST

You're fighting human nature - (drewk) - (29) - Feb. 14, 2006, 10:02:41 PM EST

Take your last thought a little farther... - (Another Scott) - Feb. 14, 2006, 10:59:50 PM EST

Evidence runs to the contrary - (tuberculosis) - (27) - Feb. 15, 2006, 01:47:00 PM EST

you can safely ignore drewk - (boxley) - Feb. 15, 2006, 01:59:17 PM EST

You have a much looser definition of "make stuff" than I do - (drewk) - (25) - Feb. 15, 2006, 03:06:11 PM EST

Complete Bollocks - (tuberculosis) - (24) - Feb. 15, 2006, 05:28:06 PM EST

You're kidding me, right? - (admin) - (23) - Feb. 15, 2006, 05:43:12 PM EST

There will always be people too old to learn - (tuberculosis) - (22) - Feb. 15, 2006, 05:48:02 PM EST

I'll let you tell her she's "too old" to learn - (admin) - (21) - Feb. 15, 2006, 06:04:06 PM EST

It's also called respecting someone else's domain - (tonytib) - (20) - Feb. 15, 2006, 07:03:06 PM EST

Point missed again - (tuberculosis) - (19) - Feb. 15, 2006, 07:47:15 PM EST

And you're missing the point we're trying to make. - (admin) - (17) - Feb. 15, 2006, 07:50:19 PM EST

I wouldn't say immaterial - (jake123) - (2) - Feb. 15, 2006, 07:54:20 PM EST

MP3 is a data format, not an architecture. - (admin) - (1) - Feb. 15, 2006, 09:36:37 PM EST

Not my point - (jake123) - Feb. 16, 2006, 01:01:46 AM EST

I don't give a flip about your point - (tuberculosis) - (13) - Feb. 15, 2006, 08:35:24 PM EST

ICLRPD (new thread) - (boxley) - Feb. 15, 2006, 08:42:25 PM EST

Uh, yeah. - (admin) - (11) - Feb. 15, 2006, 09:35:01 PM EST

I don't have to bow to nobody! - (drewk) - (1) - Feb. 15, 2006, 09:56:02 PM EST

Exactly. -NT - (admin) - Feb. 15, 2006, 10:05:11 PM EST

Right on! - (tonytib) - (8) - Feb. 16, 2006, 12:30:54 AM EST

The ignorance around here is staggering - (tuberculosis) - (7) - Feb. 16, 2006, 01:17:38 AM EST

We disagree with you, so we're ignorant ... good call -NT - (drewk) - (3) - Feb. 16, 2006, 09:06:14 AM EST

Something about photos - not capable - links - (tuberculosis) - (2) - Feb. 16, 2006, 11:33:15 AM EST

Something about Photoshop, easy to use, etc - (tonytib) - (1) - Feb. 16, 2006, 11:54:38 AM EST

Heck... - (folkert) - Feb. 16, 2006, 12:18:35 PM EST

The arrogance around here is staggering. - (admin) - (2) - Feb. 16, 2006, 09:09:16 AM EST

Fine - you're all wrong and we'll leave it at that - (tuberculosis) - (1) - Feb. 16, 2006, 11:34:53 AM EST

As soon as you stop misrepresenting me I will - (admin) - Feb. 16, 2006, 12:07:44 PM EST

You keep missing the point - (tonytib) - Feb. 15, 2006, 08:19:16 PM EST

ICLRPD (new thread) - (lincoln) - March 3, 2006, 12:07:05 PM EST

ICLRPD (new thread) - (jb4) - Feb. 13, 2006, 02:38:04 PM EST

The idea is that these are tools for adhoc computing - (tuberculosis) - Feb. 6, 2006, 04:38:29 PM EST

The short history.... - (ChrisR) - Feb. 2, 2006, 08:13:20 PM EST

For your amusement. - (Another Scott) - (1) - Jan. 24, 2006, 01:22:46 PM EST

I sent him my OO-postscript page :-) -NT - (admin) - Jan. 24, 2006, 03:48:06 PM EST

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