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     Question is now moot (re: network scripting) - (tjsinclair) - (33)
         Biggest criticism I've seen of PHP - (drewk) - (8)
             Re: Biggest criticism I've seen of PHP - (tjsinclair) - (6)
                 Word from your Police Dept? What kind of students are these? -NT - (CRConrad) - (1)
                     Haven't met them yet - (tjsinclair)
                 I'd definitely vote for it over Front Page - (drewk) - (3)
                     My thoughts as well - (tjsinclair) - (2)
                         Personal Dictator? Professional Druid? Practical Devil? -NT - (Another Scott) - (1)
                             Program Director - (tjsinclair)
             Agreed. - (static)
         I'd use Seaside + Squeak + Postgres - (tuberculosis) - (23)
             OT: What country code is "st"? -NT - (drewk) - (1)
                 OT: It's the Peoples Republic of SmallTalk. :) - (a6l6e6x)
             What's the learning curve? - (drewk) - (12)
                 I think its easy, once you install squeak + seaside image - (tuberculosis) - (11)
                     There a good step by step "how to set this up" anywhere? -NT - (drewk) - (10)
                         You mean seaside? - (tuberculosis) - (9)
                             Sounds Windows-specific ... that work on Linux? -NT - (drewk) - (1)
                                 Of course - (tuberculosis)
                             Raises a question in my mind: - (admin) - (6)
                                 Everything in the image is typical - (tuberculosis) - (5)
                                     Yeah, but where does the config info come from? - (admin) - (4)
                                         Prompt them for it? - (tuberculosis) - (3)
                                             Re: Prompt them for it? - (admin) - (2)
                                                 There are various ways - (tuberculosis) - (1)
                                                     Thanks. -NT - (admin)
             Based on personal experience... - (admin) - (7)
                 Memories... - (Another Scott)
                 You can use emacs now - (tuberculosis) - (5)
                     Now that's progress... ;-) - (admin) - (4)
                         The description that I remember is... - (ben_tilly) - (3)
                             :-) -NT - (admin)
                             Nah. Emacs is a great operating system. - (broomberg) - (1)
                                 ICLRPDx2 (new thread) - (static)
     Only 9 years after it was introduced, JDBC 4 adds xLOB suppt - (tuberculosis) - (3)
         No kidding. -NT - (admin)
         Treat them as a byte[] -NT - (warmachine) - (1)
             That's the in-memory representation - (tuberculosis)
     C++ Builder 5: Shouldn't .h files update automagically? - (Another Scott) - (2)
         Probably not but I don't know that tool - (tuberculosis) - (1)
             Thanks. That's what I eneded up doing. -NT - (Another Scott)
     Simple network programming language? - (tjsinclair) - (51)
         Python. - (folkert)
         What Greg said. - (admin) - (3)
             That's exactly what I was thinking - (tjsinclair) - (2)
                 cautions, cause.. - (cforde) - (1)
                     Understood - (tjsinclair)
         REBOL gets you there the fastest - (ChrisR) - (4)
             Agreed. - (admin)
             I considered Java briefly - (tjsinclair) - (2)
                 Definietly not Java or anything with a compiler - (tuberculosis) - (1)
                     Granted - (tjsinclair)
         perl, creating sockets and listening is fairly easy -NT - (boxley) - (35)
             Thanks for the tip - (tjsinclair)
             But not as readable as Python. - (admin) - (33)
                 This isn't readable? - (broomberg) - (32)
                     Ben could reduce that to about 12 characters... ;-) -NT - (Another Scott) - (15)
                         Of course he could - (broomberg) - (14)
                             :-) Yup, but in Python one can't do that. - (Another Scott) - (11)
                                 Hmm - (broomberg) - (10)
                                     Write That Code! - (Another Scott)
                                     Sorry I'm late to the Party ... Ruby Version - (JimWeirich) - (8)
                                         Where's the error handling? - (admin) - (7)
                                             I wouldn't bet that it is missing - (ben_tilly) - (6)
                                                 OK, fine... but - (admin) - (5)
                                                     As I said... - (ben_tilly) - (4)
                                                         Near enough to Python, then. - (admin) - (3)
                                                             Re: Near enough to Python, then. - (JimWeirich) - (2)
                                                                 As I said... - (admin) - (1)
                                                                     Ahh, makes me long for the old days - (broomberg)
                             Oops. -NT - (inthane-chan)
                             ICJRLPD (new thread) - (inthane-chan)
                     As I said, "not AS readable as the Python" - (admin) - (15)
                         Not bad - (broomberg) - (4)
                             What. He. Said. - (jb4) - (3)
                                 WTF do YOU think it has on it...? - (admin)
                                 I don't think you'll be surprised. (img) - (Another Scott)
                                 Hiss - (ChrisR)
                         Wel, it's beautiful code - (Arkadiy) - (9)
                             Use the socket libraries then. - (admin)
                             It's introduction to networking - (tjsinclair) - (7)
                                 I'd go with socket basics. - (jake123) - (6)
                                     Re: I'd go with socket basics. - (admin) - (5)
                                         Didn't say it would take very long - (jake123) - (3)
                                             Programming Languages will influence the model - (ChrisR) - (2)
                                                 Indeed - (jake123) - (1)
                                                     Definitely want high level languages - (tjsinclair)
                                         Yep. -NT - (Arkadiy)
         I'd suggest Ruby... - (ben_tilly) - (2)
             I believe I stole that example from it - (broomberg)
             I'm thinking of quick and dirty HOWTO here - (tjsinclair)
         Consider Object REXX - (jake123) - (1)
             Thanks for the reminder - (tjsinclair)
     Revision control comparison - (dlevitt) - (7)
         I'd be suspicious of anything associated with PVCS - (admin) - (1)
             Ditto - she's a dog -NT - (tuberculosis)
         Talked to a friend of mine... - (Yendor) - (4)
             PVCS and the past - (dlevitt) - (3)
                 Re: PVCS and the past - (admin) - (2)
                     PVCS is a dog...especially on Unix. -NT - (Simon_Jester) - (1)
                         Watcha got against dogs? They're nice; PVCS isn't -NT - (hnick)
     text decoding from images - (boxley) - (9)
         Block HTML emails at the server. >;) -NT - (Steve Lowe)
         Bayesian filters - (Yendor) - (1)
             using them, not as effective as they used to be - (boxley)
         Hmm - (broomberg)
         GAH! old timers disease - (boxley) - (4)
             Hasn't this problem been solved? - (Another Scott) - (3)
                 tell me how I determine what is unsoliceted - (boxley) - (2)
                     Bayesian filters. - (Another Scott) - (1)
                         actually I hang out here - (boxley)
     GTK+ Tutorials? - (ChrisR)
     Ambrai Smalltalk getting decent - (tuberculosis)
     C++ ISO/IEC 14882:2003 - (jb4) - (4)
         No free lunch - (ChrisR) - (3)
             Actually have a (legal) copy of the C++9x std -NT - (jb4)
             For Googling, use "StroustrUp" in stead. HTH! :-) -NT - (CRConrad) - (1)
                 It's them funny Nordish names that give me fits -NT - (ChrisR)
     Python: I'm overlooking something obvious. - (inthane-chan) - (2)
         Works For Me. - (admin) - (1)
             Funky. 2.4.1, ActiveState installer. - (inthane-chan)
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