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New Problem with a s.a.w. for home use
You need a tripod. Unless you've got one for each window, you have to be ready to lug the gun and tripod to the side with the most pitchforks. It can not be fired effectively from the hip, Rambo notwithstanding.

Although, if you've got a turret on the roof ...
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Collapse Edited by drewk Nov. 5, 2003, 11:53:12 AM EST
Problem with a s.a.w. for home use
You need a tripod. Unless you've got one for each window, you have to be ready to lug the gun and tripod to the side with the most pitchforks. It can not be fired effectively from the hip, Rambo notwithstanding.
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Implicitly condoning stupidity since 2001.
New Don't forget the ...
The spare barrels and the boxes of ammo...

and the gloves to change the barrel...

Don't forget to cleanup the brass when you are done... recyclers don;t like Bloody Brass...

Ummm, you forgot to mention the 3000 Rounds Per Minute Cyclical Rate...

Wait, did you bring the depleted uranium rounds... or Ahhh tracers every fifth... cool.

Wanna start a fire? Wanna put one out?
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GUNS^wWEAPONS'WE'BE...
New Besides, when the Angry Mob[tm] comes for me ... (9k image)
I want one of [link|http://www.hqmc.usmc.mil/factfile.nsf/7e931335d515626a8525628100676e0c/9867a7c6f72a0ad08525627c006cb4ef?OpenDocument|these],

[image|http://www.hqmc.usmc.mil/factfile.nsf/7e931335d515626a8525628100676e0c/9867a7c6f72a0ad08525627c006cb4ef/$FILE/MK19MOD3.JPG||||]

loaded with alternating HEDP, WP and CS.[1]


High Explosive Dual Purpose (armor piercing/fragmentation), White Phospohorus and tear gas.
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Expand Edited by drewk Nov. 5, 2003, 04:09:28 PM EST
New Oh, that's better than the hvy weapon I was considering
I thought the 155mm gun/rocket launcher from the M551 Sheridan would be handy. You have the Shillelagh to take out the vehicles, and a 155 HE shell should do in crowds quite nicely.

Brian Bronson
New But if they're just too aggressive . . .
. . you can make 'em regret it! Just pull the ripcord on your suitcase nuke.
[link|http://www.aaxnet.com|AAx]
Expand Edited by Andrew Grygus Nov. 5, 2003, 04:31:37 PM EST
New Hmm, too close to baby-bathwater. Except as last gasp
New I thought it could use a bipod, too
     Picking some guns... - (inthane-chan) - (83)
         Take a class, both of you. Try them there. -NT - (Another Scott) - (1)
             In the planning. Just wanted some input. -NT - (inthane-chan)
         Home defense... - (admin) - (10)
             Re: Home defense... - (Yendor) - (1)
                 Actually, I'm not being entirely accurate - (admin)
             Agreed. #1 is a dog, #2 is a pump shotgun - (bbronson) - (7)
                 Problem with a s.a.w. for home use - (drewk) - (6)
                     Don't forget the ... - (folkert) - (4)
                         Besides, when the Angry Mob[tm] comes for me ... (9k image) - (drewk) - (3)
                             Oh, that's better than the hvy weapon I was considering - (bbronson) - (2)
                                 But if they're just too aggressive . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (1)
                                     Hmm, too close to baby-bathwater. Except as last gasp -NT - (bbronson)
                     I thought it could use a bipod, too -NT - (bbronson)
         Think about the purpose - (Silverlock)
         Re: Picking some guns... - (Yendor)
         Long and Short guns and hall clearers - (boxley)
         Stopping power - (deSitter) - (7)
             Rifles specifically for "distance" application. - (inthane-chan) - (6)
                 Are you gonna be on the news soon? - (deSitter) - (5)
                     No intention whatsoever. - (inthane-chan) - (4)
                         I take it from that comment... - (ben_tilly) - (3)
                             Finished. - (inthane-chan) - (2)
                                 I meant your worry about general civil disturbance... -NT - (ben_tilly) - (1)
                                     Well, yeah. Just wanted to add that disclaimer as well. :D -NT - (inthane-chan)
         Was cleaning the bedroom closet earlier this year . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (1)
             sorry pal but these days, your place is a called a compound -NT - (boxley)
         Start off with a low recoil gun for training - (orion) - (1)
             nononononononononononono!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - (boxley)
         Gun Ad - (Arkadiy) - (6)
             The thing about guns is... - (inthane-chan) - (4)
                 I keep a sword around, actually... -NT - (admin) - (2)
                     Does my ceremonial Army saber count? - (jbrabeck) - (1)
                         If you can stick things with it, sure... - (admin)
                 louisville slugger at points of entry - (boxley)
             Burma shave... -NT - (hnick)
         Of course, you must realize . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (10)
             Good story. I'm glad it turned out well! - (Another Scott) - (8)
                 Kids are a major consideration too - (Andrew Grygus) - (7)
                     Finally... - (jbrabeck) - (2)
                         I figure if general civil unrest breaks out... - (inthane-chan) - (1)
                             General civil unrest - (jake123)
                     A friend of mine has had a lot of guns - (boxley) - (3)
                         Having been a kid once . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (2)
                             Of course, kids aren't responsible enough for firearm use - (orion) - (1)
                                 in a real world - (boxley)
             And who says.... - (folkert)
         Thoughtful replies, as befits zIWE - (Ashton)
         question to all - (rcareaga) - (30)
             I chalk it up to paranoia - (orion) - (10)
                 Fluffy, White, boy... - (folkert) - (1)
                     Relax - (orion)
                 Re: I chalk it up to paranoia - (dmcarls) - (7)
                     Taser, a good product. - (orion)
                     Look at the Damn thing... - (folkert)
                     Remember this company? - (dmcarls) - (4)
                         Let's go with this - (deSitter) - (3)
                             nonononono!!!!!!! AAARRGGGGHH!!!!!!! /me drops and shudders -NT - (boxley)
                             I prefer... - (inthane-chan) - (1)
                                 Polka style too. -NT - (inthane-chan)
             Rand-om thoughts... - (folkert)
             Nope, just a believer. - (Yendor) - (12)
                 Couple of points. - (pwhysall)
                 Oh, Geez. Not that again! - (mmoffitt) - (10)
                     Well... - (folkert) - (1)
                         Wasn't Terry somebody... - (mmoffitt)
                     Miller case extremely doubtful - (Yendor) - (5)
                         Also, further reading on the definition of a Militia: - (Yendor) - (1)
                             Only two years left on my militia duty - (ChrisR)
                         Point being... - (pwhysall) - (1)
                             Exactly. - (mmoffitt)
                         ROFL! - (mmoffitt)
                     arnt you the same guy that whined about the USSC and bush? -NT - (boxley) - (1)
                         They're supposed to determine the law, not elections. -NT - (mmoffitt)
             A government must live in fear . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (3)
                 Re: A government must live in fear . . - (deSitter) - (2)
                     No... they have not... - (folkert) - (1)
                         Re: No... they have not... - (deSitter)
             I fear the other gun nuts more - (ChrisR)
         Here's where to look 'em all up - (CRConrad) - (4)
             HA... Some Wimp!! guffaw! -NT - (folkert)
             Yeah, I'm familiar with the GAU-8/A - (inthane-chan)
             Not at all - (drewk) - (1)
                 <voice type="JORGHAN VONSTRANGLE"> - (folkert)

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