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Post #124,261
by bbronson
11/5/03 10:48:23 AM
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New Agreed. #1 is a dog, #2 is a pump shotgun
You don't have to be awake for a dog to defend your home. And the sound of the pump action has already been pointed out. And for real home defense during a riot, a squad automatic weapon is your friend.

Got these tips from a cop friend. Ok, not the part about the s.a.w.

Brian Bronson
Post #124,272
by drewk
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11/5/03 11:52:47 AM
11/5/03 11:53:12 AM
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New Problem with a s.a.w. for home use
You need a tripod. Unless you've got one for each window, you have to be ready to lug the gun and tripod to the side with the most pitchforks. It can not be fired effectively from the hip, Rambo notwithstanding.

Although, if you've got a turret on the roof ...
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Post #124,285
by folkert
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11/5/03 12:49:03 PM
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New Don't forget the ...
The spare barrels and the boxes of ammo...

and the gloves to change the barrel...

Don't forget to cleanup the brass when you are done... recyclers don;t like Bloody Brass...

Ummm, you forgot to mention the 3000 Rounds Per Minute Cyclical Rate...

Wait, did you bring the depleted uranium rounds... or Ahhh tracers every fifth... cool.

Wanna start a fire? Wanna put one out?
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Post #124,291
by drewk
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11/5/03 1:01:57 PM
11/5/03 4:09:28 PM
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New Besides, when the Angry Mob[tm] comes for me ... (9k image)
I want one of [link|http://www.hqmc.usmc.mil/factfile.nsf/7e931335d515626a8525628100676e0c/9867a7c6f72a0ad08525627c006cb4ef?OpenDocument|these],

[image|http://www.hqmc.usmc.mil/factfile.nsf/7e931335d515626a8525628100676e0c/9867a7c6f72a0ad08525627c006cb4ef/$FILE/MK19MOD3.JPG||||]

loaded with alternating HEDP, WP and CS.[1]


High Explosive Dual Purpose (armor piercing/fragmentation), White Phospohorus and tear gas.
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Post #124,327
by bbronson
11/5/03 3:59:04 PM
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New Oh, that's better than the hvy weapon I was considering
I thought the 155mm gun/rocket launcher from the M551 Sheridan would be handy. You have the Shillelagh to take out the vehicles, and a 155 HE shell should do in crowds quite nicely.

Brian Bronson
Post #124,334
by Andrew Grygus
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11/5/03 4:31:08 PM
11/5/03 4:31:37 PM
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New But if they're just too aggressive . . .
. . you can make 'em regret it! Just pull the ripcord on your suitcase nuke.
[link|http://www.aaxnet.com|AAx]
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Post #124,335
by bbronson
11/5/03 4:32:26 PM
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New Hmm, too close to baby-bathwater. Except as last gasp
Post #124,328
by bbronson
11/5/03 3:59:32 PM
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New I thought it could use a bipod, too
     Picking some guns... - (inthane-chan) - (83) - Nov. 3, 2003, 01:46:21 PM EST
         Take a class, both of you. Try them there. -NT - (Another Scott) - (1) - Nov. 3, 2003, 01:49:08 PM EST
             In the planning. Just wanted some input. -NT - (inthane-chan) - Nov. 3, 2003, 02:11:29 PM EST
         Home defense... - (admin) - (10) - Nov. 3, 2003, 02:18:07 PM EST
             Re: Home defense... - (Yendor) - (1) - Nov. 3, 2003, 02:27:03 PM EST
                 Actually, I'm not being entirely accurate - (admin) - Nov. 3, 2003, 02:32:55 PM EST
             Agreed. #1 is a dog, #2 is a pump shotgun - (bbronson) - (7) - Nov. 5, 2003, 10:48:23 AM EST
                 Problem with a s.a.w. for home use - (drewk) - (6) - Nov. 5, 2003, 11:53:12 AM EST
                     Don't forget the ... - (folkert) - (4) - Nov. 5, 2003, 12:49:03 PM EST
                         Besides, when the Angry Mob[tm] comes for me ... (9k image) - (drewk) - (3) - Nov. 5, 2003, 04:09:28 PM EST
                             Oh, that's better than the hvy weapon I was considering - (bbronson) - (2) - Nov. 5, 2003, 03:59:04 PM EST
                                 But if they're just too aggressive . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (1) - Nov. 5, 2003, 04:31:37 PM EST
                                     Hmm, too close to baby-bathwater. Except as last gasp -NT - (bbronson) - Nov. 5, 2003, 04:32:26 PM EST
                     I thought it could use a bipod, too -NT - (bbronson) - Nov. 5, 2003, 03:59:32 PM EST
         Think about the purpose - (Silverlock) - Nov. 3, 2003, 02:24:10 PM EST
         Re: Picking some guns... - (Yendor) - Nov. 3, 2003, 02:35:52 PM EST
         Long and Short guns and hall clearers - (boxley) - Nov. 3, 2003, 03:26:46 PM EST
         Stopping power - (deSitter) - (7) - Nov. 3, 2003, 04:02:10 PM EST
             Rifles specifically for "distance" application. - (inthane-chan) - (6) - Nov. 3, 2003, 04:25:14 PM EST
                 Are you gonna be on the news soon? - (deSitter) - (5) - Nov. 3, 2003, 04:27:15 PM EST
                     No intention whatsoever. - (inthane-chan) - (4) - Nov. 3, 2003, 04:42:35 PM EST
                         I take it from that comment... - (ben_tilly) - (3) - Nov. 3, 2003, 05:27:03 PM EST
                             Finished. - (inthane-chan) - (2) - Nov. 3, 2003, 05:36:01 PM EST
                                 I meant your worry about general civil disturbance... -NT - (ben_tilly) - (1) - Nov. 3, 2003, 05:58:11 PM EST
                                     Well, yeah. Just wanted to add that disclaimer as well. :D -NT - (inthane-chan) - Nov. 3, 2003, 06:10:06 PM EST
         Was cleaning the bedroom closet earlier this year . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (1) - Nov. 3, 2003, 05:14:46 PM EST
             sorry pal but these days, your place is a called a compound -NT - (boxley) - Nov. 3, 2003, 09:08:33 PM EST
         Start off with a low recoil gun for training - (orion) - (1) - Nov. 4, 2003, 01:07:41 AM EST
             nononononononononononono!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - (boxley) - Nov. 4, 2003, 09:36:26 PM EST
         Gun Ad - (Arkadiy) - (6) - Nov. 4, 2003, 02:22:13 PM EST
             The thing about guns is... - (inthane-chan) - (4) - Nov. 4, 2003, 02:30:15 PM EST
                 I keep a sword around, actually... -NT - (admin) - (2) - Nov. 4, 2003, 02:44:36 PM EST
                     Does my ceremonial Army saber count? - (jbrabeck) - (1) - Nov. 4, 2003, 02:51:14 PM EST
                         If you can stick things with it, sure... - (admin) - Nov. 4, 2003, 02:54:35 PM EST
                 louisville slugger at points of entry - (boxley) - Nov. 4, 2003, 09:37:52 PM EST
             Burma shave... -NT - (hnick) - Nov. 4, 2003, 05:55:14 PM EST
         Of course, you must realize . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (10) - Nov. 4, 2003, 10:41:02 PM EST
             Good story. I'm glad it turned out well! - (Another Scott) - (8) - Nov. 5, 2003, 12:22:45 AM EST
                 Kids are a major consideration too - (Andrew Grygus) - (7) - Nov. 4, 2003, 11:52:25 PM EST
                     Finally... - (jbrabeck) - (2) - Nov. 5, 2003, 08:29:11 AM EST
                         I figure if general civil unrest breaks out... - (inthane-chan) - (1) - Nov. 5, 2003, 10:59:26 AM EST
                             General civil unrest - (jake123) - Nov. 5, 2003, 12:58:28 PM EST
                     A friend of mine has had a lot of guns - (boxley) - (3) - Nov. 5, 2003, 05:22:51 PM EST
                         Having been a kid once . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (2) - Nov. 5, 2003, 08:27:55 PM EST
                             Of course, kids aren't responsible enough for firearm use - (orion) - (1) - Nov. 5, 2003, 09:26:20 PM EST
                                 in a real world - (boxley) - Nov. 5, 2003, 11:03:29 PM EST
             And who says.... - (folkert) - Nov. 5, 2003, 12:56:40 PM EST
         Thoughtful replies, as befits zIWE - (Ashton) - Nov. 5, 2003, 09:01:34 PM EST
         question to all - (rcareaga) - (30) - Nov. 5, 2003, 09:27:38 PM EST
             I chalk it up to paranoia - (orion) - (10) - Nov. 5, 2003, 10:25:01 PM EST
                 Fluffy, White, boy... - (folkert) - (1) - Nov. 5, 2003, 11:19:08 PM EST
                     Relax - (orion) - Nov. 6, 2003, 12:47:16 AM EST
                 Re: I chalk it up to paranoia - (dmcarls) - (7) - Nov. 6, 2003, 02:06:14 PM EST
                     Taser, a good product. - (orion) - Nov. 6, 2003, 02:28:34 PM EST
                     Look at the Damn thing... - (folkert) - Nov. 6, 2003, 04:54:42 PM EST
                     Remember this company? - (dmcarls) - (4) - Jan. 14, 2004, 04:44:37 PM EST
                         Let's go with this - (deSitter) - (3) - Jan. 14, 2004, 04:47:29 PM EST
                             nonononono!!!!!!! AAARRGGGGHH!!!!!!! /me drops and shudders -NT - (boxley) - Jan. 14, 2004, 09:48:31 PM EST
                             I prefer... - (inthane-chan) - (1) - Jan. 19, 2004, 10:51:51 AM EST
                                 Polka style too. -NT - (inthane-chan) - Jan. 19, 2004, 10:52:09 AM EST
             Rand-om thoughts... - (folkert) - Nov. 5, 2003, 09:50:28 PM EST
             Nope, just a believer. - (Yendor) - (12) - Nov. 5, 2003, 10:38:17 PM EST
                 Couple of points. - (pwhysall) - Nov. 6, 2003, 03:10:13 AM EST
                 Oh, Geez. Not that again! - (mmoffitt) - (10) - Nov. 6, 2003, 04:13:09 PM EST
                     Well... - (folkert) - (1) - Nov. 6, 2003, 04:47:09 PM EST
                         Wasn't Terry somebody... - (mmoffitt) - Nov. 7, 2003, 12:07:42 PM EST
                     Miller case extremely doubtful - (Yendor) - (5) - Nov. 6, 2003, 04:55:03 PM EST
                         Also, further reading on the definition of a Militia: - (Yendor) - (1) - Nov. 6, 2003, 05:36:35 PM EST
                             Only two years left on my militia duty - (ChrisR) - Nov. 6, 2003, 05:41:06 PM EST
                         Point being... - (pwhysall) - (1) - Nov. 7, 2003, 02:00:13 AM EST
                             Exactly. - (mmoffitt) - Nov. 7, 2003, 12:05:45 PM EST
                         ROFL! - (mmoffitt) - Nov. 7, 2003, 12:12:17 PM EST
                     arnt you the same guy that whined about the USSC and bush? -NT - (boxley) - (1) - Nov. 8, 2003, 04:21:51 PM EST
                         They're supposed to determine the law, not elections. -NT - (mmoffitt) - Nov. 10, 2003, 09:08:47 AM EST
             A government must live in fear . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (3) - Nov. 5, 2003, 11:12:44 PM EST
                 Re: A government must live in fear . . - (deSitter) - (2) - Nov. 5, 2003, 11:20:07 PM EST
                     No... they have not... - (folkert) - (1) - Nov. 5, 2003, 11:24:06 PM EST
                         Re: No... they have not... - (deSitter) - Nov. 6, 2003, 01:15:43 AM EST
             I fear the other gun nuts more - (ChrisR) - Nov. 6, 2003, 02:45:13 PM EST
         Here's where to look 'em all up - (CRConrad) - (4) - Nov. 11, 2003, 02:52:39 AM EST
             HA... Some Wimp!! guffaw! -NT - (folkert) - Nov. 11, 2003, 10:39:52 AM EST
             Yeah, I'm familiar with the GAU-8/A - (inthane-chan) - Nov. 11, 2003, 10:59:28 AM EST
             Not at all - (drewk) - (1) - Nov. 11, 2003, 12:00:30 PM EST
                 <voice type="JORGHAN VONSTRANGLE"> - (folkert) - Nov. 11, 2003, 12:11:43 PM EST

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