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New Start off with a low recoil gun for training
Buy or rent a .22 caliber gun and/or rifle and get the feel for the sights, scope, and recoil. The .22 will be like a cap-gun in recoil and you can use it to improve your aim until you can buy the higher caliber rifles and gun. Find a place somewhere that lets you try out the guns at a shooting range, try asking security guards where they train at. At the bottom of this post I included an NRA link to find a shooting range near you.

Better yet rather than buy a gun, go to the local arcade that has gun video games and practice with them first, no recoil. Play the game with your wife so she can learn too. Learn how the scope or slot works on a gun, aim the slot just under the target until you can hit it just right. Bass Pro Shops have rifle games, play Skeet shoot, Duck Hunt, Bear Hunt, to get the aiming right. Then when you start to get good, think about buying a gun.

You obviously want something that has stopping power, the ultimate for that is the Browning .50, but it takes great strength to handle the recoil. The Dirty Harry Special is the .45 Magnum, again with a heavy recoil. Won't be much left of anyone you shoot with those pistols. .38 Specials are nice, but you have to learn how a Revolver works and you are limited to just 6 shots. Make sure you learn how to brace yourself for firing one of the heavy guns, and that you learn your breathing control. Take a Hunter Safety course given by Rangers that will teach you gun safety, you will learn the NRA's Ten Commandments of handling a gun from that.

M1 Carbine was the rifle my father used in the Navy, not sure if they sell it to the public. Use whatever rifle they use on Dears or Bears, those are legal. Learn how the bolt action works, or get a Semi-Automatic Rifle if you don't want to mess with a bolt. Remember that it isn't how quick you shoot that counts, it is the accuracy.

You may want to visit the NRA website at:
[link|http://www.nra.org/|http://www.nra.org/]

This will help you find a shooting range:
[link|http://www.nra.org/frame.cfm?url=http://www.nrahq.org/shootingrange/findlocal.asp|http://www.nra.org/f...nge/findlocal.asp]

Tons of other interesting links. Also consider buying a few gun magazines to check out the articles and advertisement.

Good luck.



"Lady I only speak two languages, English and Bad English!" - Corbin Dallas "The Fifth Element"

New nononononononononononono!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
problem is
short range in house multiple attackers best effect
shotgun, rest is discussion of loads and gauge

intermediate range is a lot of attackers within 200 yards
lots to discuss but 223 ammo is plenty and a lot of guns take it

long range 200 yard plus, heavier cartridge straight shooting gun
30-06 or 7mm rifle an M1 is ideal or most good 30-06

real long range 600yards plus a sharps buffalo gun or replica you can purchase, 50 caliber lottsa powder

real close range, within touching distance
pistol various caliber most subjective.

At the video store its a game, this is real, every shot can kill a human being. Get used to the heviest recoil you can stand and fire often. My wife grew up hunting and she didnt get her 410 over and under 22 until she could handle a 3 inch 12 guage without snivelling.

This isnt pretend,
If you pull out a weapon be prepared to fire it
do not fire unless you are willing to kill another human intentionally
be damn sure what you are doing.
please dont be a poster boy for gun control

thanx,
bill
"You're just like me streak. You never left the free-fire zone.You think aspirins and meetings and cold showers are going to clean out your head. What you want is God's permission to paint the trees with the bad guys. That wont happen big mon." Clete
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         Re: Picking some guns... - (Yendor)
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                             Finished. - (inthane-chan) - (2)
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             Burma shave... -NT - (hnick)
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                 Kids are a major consideration too - (Andrew Grygus) - (7)
                     Finally... - (jbrabeck) - (2)
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                             General civil unrest - (jake123)
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                                 in a real world - (boxley)
             And who says.... - (folkert)
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                 Fluffy, White, boy... - (folkert) - (1)
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