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New Re: Picking some guns...
I agree with Another Scott...Take a class. If not two, for the different types of firearms you mentioned. Shooting a rifle != shooting a pistol.

You also should be able to go down to $YOUR_LOCAL_GUN_SHOP and try out their rental guns there. I know mine here in IL do that...So long as you have a valid FOID (Firearm Owner's ID) card.

That being said, I love my [link|http://www.glock.com/g35.htm|Glock .40 caliber semi-auto]. I don't get to take it out enough.

I'm only 5-10, so I felt that the .40 was enough; both .45's I tried felt like overkill, if you will. I squeeze shots two at a time anyway, and 2 from a .40 is enough to stop an intruder. Your little lady might think that the .40's a bit much. In that case, I would suggest the [link|http://www.glock.com/10.htm|10mm] or [link|http://www.glock.com/9x19.htm|9mm] pistols. My brother has a 9mm (I think the [link|http://www.glock.com/g17l.htm|G17L]), and he likes it. I find it a bit under-powered. If I want to stop an intruder from abusing me/my GF/her kids, then I want something I *KNOW* can stop 'em (tempered by my feelings of what's too powerful -- which is why I have the .40 instead of the .45.)

One thing that you'll need to know about Glock firearms is that there is *no external safety*. If your hand is positioned correctly and you squeeze the trigger, it *WILL* fire. There's no button to push on the side of the fun. No handle-pressure-mechanism. If you squeeze it, it will fire. The only safety is on the trigger itself. If you depress that little catch on the trigger and continue squeezing, off it goes. Some people have a serious problem with this. I personally like it, as it's one less thing to fuck with when I'm awakened by an intruder at 3am.

Update: [link|http://www.glock.com/_safe_action_.htm|More info about Glock's Safe Action System] and [link|http://www.glock.com/trigger_safety.htm|their trigger safety mechanism].
-YendorMike

[link|http://www.hope-ride.org/|http://www.hope-ride.org/]
Collapse Edited by Yendor Nov. 3, 2003, 02:35:52 PM EST
Re: Picking some guns...
I agree with Another Scott...Take a class. If not two, for the different types of firearms you mentioned. Shooting a rifle != shooting a pistol.

You also should be able to go down to $YOUR_LOCAL_GUN_SHOP and try out their rental guns there. I know mine here in IL do that...So long as you have a valid FOID (Firearm Owner's ID) card.

That being said, I love my [link|http://www.glock.com/g35.htm|Glock .40 caliber semi-auto]. I don't get to take it out enough.

I'm only 5-10, so I felt that the .40 was enough; both .45's I tried felt like overkill, if you will. I squeeze shots two at a time anyway, and 2 from a .40 is enough to stop an intruder. Your little lady might think that the .40's a bit much. In that case, I would suggest the [link|http://www.glock.com/10.htm|10mm] or [link|http://www.glock.com/9x19.htm|9mm] pistols. My brother has a 9mm (I think the [link|http://www.glock.com/g17l.htm|G17L]), and he likes it. I find it a bit under-powered. If I want to stop an intruder from abusing me/my GF/her kids, then I want something I *KNOW* can stop 'em (tempered by my feelings of what's too powerful -- which is why I have the .40 instead of the .45.)

One thing that you'll need to know about Glock firearms is that there is *no external safety*. If your hand is positioned correctly and you squeeze the trigger, it *WILL* fire. There's no button to push on the side of the fun. No handle-pressure-mechanism. If you squeeze it, it will fire. The only safety is on the trigger itself. If you depress that little catch on the trigger and continue squeezing, off it goes. Some people have a serious problem with this. I personally like it, as it's one less thing to fuck with when I'm awakened by an intruder at 3am.
-YendorMike

[link|http://www.hope-ride.org/|http://www.hope-ride.org/]
     Picking some guns... - (inthane-chan) - (83)
         Take a class, both of you. Try them there. -NT - (Another Scott) - (1)
             In the planning. Just wanted some input. -NT - (inthane-chan)
         Home defense... - (admin) - (10)
             Re: Home defense... - (Yendor) - (1)
                 Actually, I'm not being entirely accurate - (admin)
             Agreed. #1 is a dog, #2 is a pump shotgun - (bbronson) - (7)
                 Problem with a s.a.w. for home use - (drewk) - (6)
                     Don't forget the ... - (folkert) - (4)
                         Besides, when the Angry Mob[tm] comes for me ... (9k image) - (drewk) - (3)
                             Oh, that's better than the hvy weapon I was considering - (bbronson) - (2)
                                 But if they're just too aggressive . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (1)
                                     Hmm, too close to baby-bathwater. Except as last gasp -NT - (bbronson)
                     I thought it could use a bipod, too -NT - (bbronson)
         Think about the purpose - (Silverlock)
         Re: Picking some guns... - (Yendor)
         Long and Short guns and hall clearers - (boxley)
         Stopping power - (deSitter) - (7)
             Rifles specifically for "distance" application. - (inthane-chan) - (6)
                 Are you gonna be on the news soon? - (deSitter) - (5)
                     No intention whatsoever. - (inthane-chan) - (4)
                         I take it from that comment... - (ben_tilly) - (3)
                             Finished. - (inthane-chan) - (2)
                                 I meant your worry about general civil disturbance... -NT - (ben_tilly) - (1)
                                     Well, yeah. Just wanted to add that disclaimer as well. :D -NT - (inthane-chan)
         Was cleaning the bedroom closet earlier this year . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (1)
             sorry pal but these days, your place is a called a compound -NT - (boxley)
         Start off with a low recoil gun for training - (orion) - (1)
             nononononononononononono!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - (boxley)
         Gun Ad - (Arkadiy) - (6)
             The thing about guns is... - (inthane-chan) - (4)
                 I keep a sword around, actually... -NT - (admin) - (2)
                     Does my ceremonial Army saber count? - (jbrabeck) - (1)
                         If you can stick things with it, sure... - (admin)
                 louisville slugger at points of entry - (boxley)
             Burma shave... -NT - (hnick)
         Of course, you must realize . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (10)
             Good story. I'm glad it turned out well! - (Another Scott) - (8)
                 Kids are a major consideration too - (Andrew Grygus) - (7)
                     Finally... - (jbrabeck) - (2)
                         I figure if general civil unrest breaks out... - (inthane-chan) - (1)
                             General civil unrest - (jake123)
                     A friend of mine has had a lot of guns - (boxley) - (3)
                         Having been a kid once . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (2)
                             Of course, kids aren't responsible enough for firearm use - (orion) - (1)
                                 in a real world - (boxley)
             And who says.... - (folkert)
         Thoughtful replies, as befits zIWE - (Ashton)
         question to all - (rcareaga) - (30)
             I chalk it up to paranoia - (orion) - (10)
                 Fluffy, White, boy... - (folkert) - (1)
                     Relax - (orion)
                 Re: I chalk it up to paranoia - (dmcarls) - (7)
                     Taser, a good product. - (orion)
                     Look at the Damn thing... - (folkert)
                     Remember this company? - (dmcarls) - (4)
                         Let's go with this - (deSitter) - (3)
                             nonononono!!!!!!! AAARRGGGGHH!!!!!!! /me drops and shudders -NT - (boxley)
                             I prefer... - (inthane-chan) - (1)
                                 Polka style too. -NT - (inthane-chan)
             Rand-om thoughts... - (folkert)
             Nope, just a believer. - (Yendor) - (12)
                 Couple of points. - (pwhysall)
                 Oh, Geez. Not that again! - (mmoffitt) - (10)
                     Well... - (folkert) - (1)
                         Wasn't Terry somebody... - (mmoffitt)
                     Miller case extremely doubtful - (Yendor) - (5)
                         Also, further reading on the definition of a Militia: - (Yendor) - (1)
                             Only two years left on my militia duty - (ChrisR)
                         Point being... - (pwhysall) - (1)
                             Exactly. - (mmoffitt)
                         ROFL! - (mmoffitt)
                     arnt you the same guy that whined about the USSC and bush? -NT - (boxley) - (1)
                         They're supposed to determine the law, not elections. -NT - (mmoffitt)
             A government must live in fear . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (3)
                 Re: A government must live in fear . . - (deSitter) - (2)
                     No... they have not... - (folkert) - (1)
                         Re: No... they have not... - (deSitter)
             I fear the other gun nuts more - (ChrisR)
         Here's where to look 'em all up - (CRConrad) - (4)
             HA... Some Wimp!! guffaw! -NT - (folkert)
             Yeah, I'm familiar with the GAU-8/A - (inthane-chan)
             Not at all - (drewk) - (1)
                 <voice type="JORGHAN VONSTRANGLE"> - (folkert)

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