OK - this is the thing - Norman Look HERE.

Post #78,329 by tuberculosis 1/31/03 7:32:32 AM Reply	OK - this is the thing - Norman Look HERE. Remember Hypercard? This is Hypercard on steroids and its cross platform. Simple programming language - visual design - run it on Linux, Mac OS X, Windows, whatever. There's a free starter version - somewhat limited - but it will cost money to get runtimes for various platforms. [link\|http://www.runrev.com/\|http://www.runrev.com/] It might be just your thing though. Let us know how it works out. I think that it's extraordinarily important that we in computer science keep fun in computing. When it started out, it was an awful lot of fun. Of course, the paying customer got shafted every now and then, and after a while we began to take their complaints seriously. We began to feel as if we really were responsible for the successful, error-free perfect use of these machines. I don't think we are. I think we're responsible for stretching them, setting them off in new directions, and keeping fun in the house. I hope the field of computer science never loses its sense of fun. Above all, I hope we don't become missionaries. Don't feel as if you're Bible salesmen. The world has too many of those already. What you know about computing other people will learn. Don't feel as if the key to successful computing is only in your hands. What's in your hands, I think and hope, is intelligence: the ability to see the machine as more than when you were first led up to it, that you can make it more. --Alan Perlis
Post #78,354 by CRConrad 1/31/03 10:19:11 AM Reply	That's exactly the same as Kylix / Delphi That, too, is free for Linux (for GPLed apps) and costs a little (US$100 Personal, US$250 Proffesional) on Windows... And Norm is such a fucking cheapskate whiner that he can't even consider that; he wants it ALL for FREE, you see. If I were Marlowe, I'd say, "I say:" Hope he fucking starves to death. [link\|mailto:MyUserId@MyISP.CountryCode\|Christian R. Conrad] (I live in Finland, and my e-mail in-box is at the Saunalahti company.) Your lies are of Microsoftian Scale and boring to boot. Your 'depression' may be the closest you ever come to recognizing truth: you have no 'inferiority complex', you are inferior - and something inside you recognizes this. - [link\|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=71575\|Ashton Brown]
Post #78,570 by orion 1/31/03 11:09:25 PM Reply	But there are free things out there it is just really hard to find them, which is why I've asked. See how I've found things like Revolution, Squeak, and others. I might just invest $100 in Delphi Personal after I've saved up some money, but right now I do not have the money to buy it. I won't have any until June, thanks to the five month waiting list for disability. Unless you'd rather I cheat Borland and visit Astalavista.com and search for a Delphi Trial Crack patch? Thought not, I'd rather pay for my software than pirate it. I won't stave to death, if I have to I'll eat rice and eggs or rice and salt, to stay alive. I might just shed some pounds while I am at it. So far I have skipped a few meals every week or so. Or I just eat light, like one Yogurt, or a PBJ sandwhich, or a 59 cent can of soup or Spaghetti Rings, instead of a full meal. I even learned how to make a Poor Man's Pizza/Burrito by using flour tourtias, cheese, and lunchmeat and a Microwave. Just spread the cheese and lunch meat on the tourtia, and then heat for 2 minutes, and then eat as a Pizza or roll it over as a burrito. I can get all of this stuff at the "Stock Up Stores" like Aldi's or Save-A-Lot that sell food really cheap. I went from 280 pounds down to 258 now. I still can lose about 100 pounds before I get healthy again. Sometimes I splurge and heat up a frozen pizza. :) [link\|http://pub75.ezboard.com/bantiiwethey\| New and improved, Chicken Delvits!]
Post #78,567 by orion 1/31/03 11:00:34 PM Reply	Re: OK - this is the thing - Norman Look HERE. Thanks I am downloading now and will take a look at it later. [link\|http://pub75.ezboard.com/bantiiwethey\| New and improved, Chicken Delvits!]

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