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New Re: Your research abilities are to be admired.
You might extend your lines of research to determine exactly whom it is useful to argue with.


There are some here, Moen one of them, with whom there is no point debating. They are often a good read if you are interested in the topic, but you would have a better chance of changing the Ten Commandments than their viewpoints.


I realize from reading a number of Rick's posts in the mailing list, that he is not someone whom you can get to capitulate or to change his view, and that was not my intent here either. I simply was challenged by him to validate where I "got my info" and I have done so. As I stated in another post, somewhere in here, the next move is his. I'm not interested in a huge flame war or long drawn out debate.

If you are in the pit fighting for points, rock on! If you are trying to establish a meeting of minds to come to conclusions on this, try scrabble with multi-universe dictionaries instead; has better probabilities for success. You cannot out-bombast Moen. Can't. It's a waste of bandwidth.


I'm not sure what "in the pit fighting for points" means, but if it means was I attempting to justify and back up my statements in here, yes, I was, and I feel that I have, no matter what Rick might come back with. I am not trying to outdo Rick, only clarify where my info came from, and as I said, I believe I have.

Please extend your talents and intellect into other topics. You?re pretty good.


Thanks, I'll try. :)

Please let this die on the vine. It?s over. Karsten will come back or not. It?s his choice. He must be aware that he is still welcome. He must be equally aware that some think he is a pain in the ass. He should be used to that by now.


Well, I am still interested in knowing what Karsten wants to "correct" regarding my statements, but as with Rick, the next move is Karsten's. I challenged him to come back here and tell me what he was wanting to tell me. Guess we'll see.

I only note parenthetically that I quite recently have DSL at home, so I can tolerate the right-shift with little pain. A couple of weeks ago, this would have been a severe pain in my ass. Mercy should be given to the low bandwidth guys. If you are going to continue, you might consider starting a new topic like, oh, ?YAN really BIG tempest in a teapot: be prepared to wait for loading?, 'cause this can grow indefinably. And it will.


Well, I thought at least TWICE about making a new thread, because I know people do not like the left shift, but last time I tried making a new thread, someone chewed me out for branching out the topic... so I'm not sure what the policy on that is. But if Rick comes in and replies, I'll probably start a new thread IF I deem there is anything worth replying to in his posts.

You have acquitted yourself well; now quit while it is still your choice. Please. You done good. It?s out of your hands. There are no more points to make. Let it wind out quietly and hopefully some dignity.


Thanks, and like I said, it's their move, not mine, I've accomplished my goal.

Nightowl >8#
"I learned to be the door, instead of the mat!" "illegitimi nil carborundum"

Comment by Nightowl
New The official policy...
on the subject of:

someone chewed me out for branching out the topic... so I'm not sure what the policy on that is.

Well there's two official policies on the subject:

1). You're damned if you do; and
2). You're damned if you don't

I don't think we're anywhere close to the left shift records we set with Bryce years ago.

BTW, there is no official policy, unless the LRPD chimes in with an astute observation.
New ObLRPD: But don't get all fretty-pants on us.
New ObLRPD: Loose the Hounds!
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     (Does) IT Eat Its Own? - (Ashton) - (103)
         Re: (Does) IT Eat Its Own? - (deSitter) - (2)
             Correction. - (Ashton) - (1)
                 Re: Correction. - (deSitter)
         Seconded - (jbrabeck)
         Aye. - (imric) - (2)
             Plea to all of Karsten's friends/followers - (jbrabeck) - (1)
                 Sent... - (imric)
         Re: (Does) IT Eat Its Own? - (Nightowl)
         My two cents ( was Re: (Does) IT Eat Its Own?) - (Nightowl) - (87)
             Banned? - (Andrew Grygus) - (2)
                 Happens a lot in the Yahoo Groups - (orion)
                 Re: Banned? - (Nightowl)
             More two cents - (orion)
             Correction: Nobody was banned - (rickmoen) - (82)
                 Karsten's reasons are in 125001 - (Another Scott)
                 Uh Rick? - (tuberculosis) - (1)
                     Yeah, you're right - (rickmoen)
                 Riiighhht - (bepatient) - (2)
                     Ah, here we have Mister Constructive! - (rickmoen) - (1)
                         Of course you aren't. - (bepatient)
                 Re: Correction: Nobody was banned - (Nightowl) - (74)
                     Re: Correction: Nobody was banned - (rickmoen) - (73)
                         Re: Correction: Nobody was banned - (Nightowl) - (1)
                             Re: Correction: Nobody was banned - (bepatient)
                         Unfortunately. - (bepatient) - (70)
                             Finally read it all ( was Re: Unfortunately.) - (Nightowl) - (67)
                                 Sadly, you've been mislead about what the issue was - (rickmoen) - (65)
                                     Rofl - (bepatient) - (2)
                                         Well, the mob mascot speaks! - (rickmoen) - (1)
                                             Nope, not at all. - (bepatient)
                                     Re: Sadly, you've been mislead about what the issue was - (Nightowl) - (61)
                                         Darn it. - (bepatient)
                                         Time for a new name: Raptor -NT - (drewk) - (10)
                                             Re: Time for a new name: Raptor - (Nightowl) - (9)
                                                 Compliment, definitely -NT - (drewk) - (1)
                                                     Re: Compliment, definitely - (Nightowl)
                                                 Raptor means... - (pwhysall) - (6)
                                                     Re: Raptor means... - (Nightowl) - (5)
                                                         Well, yes. - (pwhysall) - (4)
                                                             Re: Well, yes. - (Nightowl) - (3)
                                                                 This hasn't been ... - (drewk) - (2)
                                                                     +5 Inciteful -NT - (bepatient)
                                                                     Re: This hasn't been ... - (Nightowl)
                                         Nightey's FIRIN'! - (jb4) - (2)
                                             Wow.... I'm surprised ( was Re: Nightey's FIRIN'!) - (Nightowl) - (1)
                                                 of risks and risks - (cforde)
                                         You can admin my board anytime. :) -NT - (FuManChu)
                                         Okay... this is getting frightening.... - (folkert)
                                         We need more of this (new thread) - (drewk)
                                         Re: Sadly, you've been mislead about what the issue was - (rickmoen) - (42)
                                             Re: Sadly, you've been mislead about what the issue was - (deSitter)
                                             You can leave me out of this...you're dealing with the Owl. -NT - (bepatient) - (1)
                                                 Fear the ^(O,O)wl -NT - (deSitter)
                                             Re: Sadly, you've been mislead about what the issue was - (Nightowl) - (37)
                                                 Re: Sadly, you've been mislead about what the issue was - (rickmoen) - (12)
                                                     Re: Sadly, you've been mislead about what the issue was - (Nightowl) - (2)
                                                         Here you go, Rick! - (Nightowl)
                                                         Heads Up, Raptorous One (new thread) - (Ashton)
                                                     Small point - (drewk)
                                                     Here's another one for you, Rick! - (Nightowl) - (7)
                                                         Personally, I wish - (ChrisR) - (6)
                                                             Re: Personally, I wish - (Nightowl)
                                                             That has alwas been the consensus - (bepatient) - (4)
                                                                 This... - (folkert) - (3)
                                                                     One or 2 things come to mind. Smartypants. -NT - (bepatient)
                                                                     Any way to set up a web page... - (ChrisR) - (1)
                                                                         Maybe... - (folkert)
                                                 It get better and better - (broomberg) - (21)
                                                     Re: It get better and better - (Nightowl) - (20)
                                                         You go girl! - (static) - (19)
                                                             Re: You go girl! - (Nightowl) - (16)
                                                                 Mailing list. - (static) - (1)
                                                                     Re: Mailing list. - (Nightowl)
                                                                 The dates you're looking for... - (Yendor) - (13)
                                                                     Re: The dates you're looking for... - (Nightowl) - (11)
                                                                         I've GOT THEM! ( was Re: The dates you're looking for...) - (Nightowl) - (10)
                                                                             I admire your tenacity. - (static) - (9)
                                                                                 Re: I admire your tenacity. - (Nightowl) - (8)
                                                                                     Your research abilities are to be admired. - (hnick) - (7)
                                                                                         ObLRPD: Eat your failures. -NT - (hnick) - (2)
                                                                                             Re: ObLRPD: Eat your failures. - (Nightowl) - (1)
                                                                                                 Obligatory LRPD -NT - (ChrisR)
                                                                                         Re: Your research abilities are to be admired. - (Nightowl) - (3)
                                                                                             The official policy... - (ChrisR) - (2)
                                                                                                 ObLRPD: But don't get all fretty-pants on us. -NT - (Another Scott) - (1)
                                                                                                     ObLRPD: Loose the Hounds! -NT - (folkert)
                                                                     That reminds me, Rick... - (Nightowl)
                                                             I think I found it, Wade. ( was Re: You go girl!) - (Nightowl) - (1)
                                                                 That's how it began, yes. - (static)
                                                 Damn....You're good! - (jb4) - (1)
                                                     Re: Damn....You're good! - (Nightowl)
                                             Rick's Patented Strawman Attack(tm) -NT - (folkert)
                                 Hey, Nightey.....GREAT Post! - (jb4)
                             Not so fast, buddy - (rickmoen) - (1)
                                 That says it all, really. - (FuManChu)
                 thanx for adding monkeys, goats and footballs to the mix - (boxley)
         Whole thing was stupid - (tuberculosis)
         Well said, Ashton! - (a6l6e6x)
         I didn't get a vote, either. - (static)
         After some reflection on the question - (hnick) - (3)
             100% Correct. -NT - (pwhysall)
             ...and too stubborn to Let. It. Go. -NT - (Steve Lowe)
             Awomen. -NT - (Ashton)

It's administration policy.
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