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New As I said, it's a pattern of abuse.
being able to login from dialup, or under different name, it would have been more obvious. As it stands... This particular incident would not be enough for me to conclude that Stryfe and Orion are one and the same. DSL provider and dial-up provider are the same, I take? Has Norm ever posted from dialup as Orion? How blatantly obvious was the other incident?
The other main incident was pretty much the same, as you can see from the link, except that Norm and Norm argued back and forth a number of times before he left. Other incidents involve the exact same posting style, names from comic books or from Norm's past (with the exception of the [link|/forums/render/user?username=jledbetter|jledbetter] account, that I know of), and IPs all from St. Louis. [link|/forums/render/user?username=Scott+Hacker|Scott Hacker] uses the same IP range as [link|/forums/render/user?username=HMinstermann|HMinstermann], and [link|/forums/render/user?username=jledbetter|jledbetter] uses the same dial-up ISP as [link|/forums/render/user?username=Stryfe|Stryfe].

I am playing Devil's advocate here. Let's see if other explanations are possible...
Other explanations are possible, although not probable. Occam's Razor suggests that Norm is trolling, not that there is a world-wide cabal of stalkers hell-bent on terrorizing him. Norm has a history of chatting back and forth to himself as well; cf. his Orion Blastar and cable4096 accounts on K5. He also likes to moderate himself up with his various accounts on K5 as well. There were also a couple of similar accounts created in the [link|http://twiki.iwethey.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/|TWikIWETHEY] system (one of which was named Andy Kaufmann IIRC; Kaufmann is a [link|http://pub75.ezboard.com/fantiiwetheyfrm16.showMessage?topicID=1.topic|favorite] of Norm's.

Here is the [link|http://profiles.yahoo.com/istryfe|Yahoo profile] Norm came up with. Note that "Last Updated" date is August 2000. Did Norm create this thing so far in advance?
There were a number of drive-bys at ezIWETHEY by Stryfes. One of whom posted from Thailand (where Norm's wife's family is from, I believe). All of them were from St. Louis. All of them used the same posting style (Norm's) and all of them had comic-book names (from the X-Men) or variations upon Norm's aliases.

Here is a home page of Stryfe, the Chaos Bringer, [link|http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Cavern/9664/| an X-Man character] (I seem to recall that Norm is partial to comics, can't provide any data).
See above. Cable/Stryfe/Orion are all from comics that he reads.

The only [link|http://www.netherworld.com/~mgabrys/clock/current.html|link] where iStryfe appears on Google (search for it). Could someone explain what they are trying to say? Note the date - a year before Last Updated on Yahoo.
I would guess that Norm has been drive-by trolling many groups. His modus operandi doesn't seem to change much.

I do think he has been harassed in the past by some of the Mac groups. There was one very credible visitation by such on ezIWETHEY. However, I was able to contact them via email; the situation was resolved. I think the harassment gave him the idea from which this current fantasy has sprouted.
Regards,

-scott anderson

"Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
New Mac-related links by Stryfe
A set of Mac [link|http://www.wodgraphics.com/Downloads.html|icons].
Mac fan [link|http://www.greatdave.org:7777/nekoninja/Gallery.html|art].
Ouch! Orion Blastar says he's a Mac [link|http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2002/11/30/211730/46|hacker].
Another Mac [link|http://216.239.39.100/search?q=cache:654HlaRcUSsC:207.208.148.74/index.shtml+stryfe+mac&hl=en&ie=UTF-8|advance] from Stryfe.
This is pure [link|http://pub23.ezboard.com/fgforceandwhitecapfrm1.showMessage?topicID=313.topic|insanity] (and it sounds like Norm, too).
There seems to be Merril Stryfe who enjoys Conter Strike game.

A piece of X-Man lore from [link|http://tgs.gargoyles-fans.org/cr/archive/2001/10-20-2001.html|here]:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
(and if you want to continue with Cable's storyline, you have to mention Cable's clone, Stryfe, who was Cable from an alternate reality; naturally, being a clone, he was evil. He also died and came back to life a dozen times or so. And, also, Cable had a son, Tyler, who eventually went crazy, dressed himself up in a costume and called himself Genesis, and tried to steal all of Apocalypse's power [get it? Apocalypse? Genesis? First and last books of the Bible?] before getting killed.).
<<<<<<<<<<<<<

There are around 150 links, I tried to filter them somewhat. Not quite sure what it means.
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We have only 2 things to worry about: That
things will never get back to normal, and that they already have.
     My apoligies - (orion) - (53)
         Well... - (folkert) - (1)
             I think us even a tad more forgiving. - (bepatient)
         Orion no need to apologize - (Scott Hacker) - (1)
             How about a fest... (new thread) - (folkert)
         Bugger off. - (pwhysall) - (48)
             Gee thanks - (orion)
             That's nicer than I would have said it. -NT - (n3jja) - (46)
                 Re: That's nicer than I would have said it. - (Azmodeuz) - (45)
                     Go for it. - (pwhysall) - (4)
                         wierd part? Norm doesnt have any friends(anymore) -NT - (boxley) - (3)
                             Oh yes I do - (orion) - (2)
                                 Understand 2 things I do not hate you and I am not angry - (boxley) - (1)
                                     Well I do not hate you nor am I angry at you - (orion)
                     Re: That's nicer than I would have said it. - (admin) - (31)
                         Re: That's nicer than I would have said it. - (bepatient) - (7)
                             Actually... - (admin) - (6)
                                 What's up with - (folkert) - (5)
                                     Not sure what you're asking about... -NT - (admin) - (3)
                                         Deese vohn... - (folkert) - (2)
                                             Orion told me about that - (andy kaufman) - (1)
                                                 Re: Orion told me about that - (orion)
                                     Oh, yeah. From the db library screw-up. - (admin)
                         Re: That's nicer than I would have said it. - (deSitter) - (22)
                             I have my doubts. - (admin) - (21)
                                 Ditto - (tuberculosis) - (19)
                                     The logs show that Norm == Stryfe with high probability - (admin) - (16)
                                         The Razor's edge - (bepatient)
                                         Could it be someone living nearby and using same ISP? - (Arkadiy) - (14)
                                             Different IP numbers - (admin) - (13)
                                                 Being ignorant in forensic networking... - (Arkadiy) - (11)
                                                     Check by network segment and provider -NT - (boxley) - (2)
                                                         Close location, same ISP - (Arkadiy) - (1)
                                                             well it really wouldnt matter which modem bank - (boxley)
                                                     I'll be posting the logs soon. - (admin) - (7)
                                                         If Norm said something about - (Arkadiy) - (6)
                                                             As I said, it's a pattern of abuse. - (admin) - (1)
                                                                 Mac-related links by Stryfe - (Arkadiy)
                                                             Norm's age in 2000 was 32, matching Yahoo profile. - (a6l6e6x) - (3)
                                                                 Re: hint... Indeed. -NT - (admin)
                                                                 Therefore, this post left blank. - (Ashton) - (1)
                                                                     I don't want the frelling attention! - (orion)
                                                 What pattern? - (orion)
                                     Re: Ditto - (deSitter) - (1)
                                         You're probably right - (tuberculosis)
                                 You are 100% corect in that opinion - (orion)
                     About the "Hooters" comment: - (admin) - (1)
                         pheer the admin ... - (drewk)
                     Asmodeus/Azmodeuz - (orion) - (5)
                         Chaos just follows you everywhere, doesn't it. - (tuberculosis) - (4)
                             Sure blame me - (orion) - (3)
                                 On invitations: - (admin) - (2)
                                     But I am not using - (orion) - (1)
                                         For the last time: - (admin)

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