I agree with your analysis in posts above.

Post #379,100 by Ashton 8/10/13 10:05:37 PM Reply	I agree with your analysis in posts above. Inevitably: one Must trust that.. [some] Other Persons are Trust-worthy as thee/close-enough. IF.. a one is paranoid about All Government PowerÂ (then s/he'd Better be paranoid about All Bizness Power and.. ALL The Financial Conmen too. (try and tell Them apart! from the less-venal ones, if there are two or three of those somewhere.) Yes, I Want to see the cynical/totalitarian-modeled ""Patriot"" Act annulled! Something Sane put-back --after much more debate than has yet occurred, something like Newly-THOUGHT-about/debated Laws whose Initial [not amended and amended and forgotten] Form is clearly expressed, whose Oversight-requirements are quite as clearly enumerated, and whose Oversight boards include a variety of literate citizens: who also Get Full Clearances after investigations du jour: their Need-to-Know matching All Areas of Each's actual responsibility--as they Must. For the Paranoid-unto Misanthropy -??- I believe that all these, even sincerely-Practiced Safeguards--as would be audited for compliance: by other mere Persons..??? Would Never Be Enough cha. cha. cha. No. point. in. debating. such: ask me about dealing with a (certified) paranoid schizophrenic, sometime. In the normal Gaussian of brain-wiring: it seems that we have minuscule info about the Range (even!) of mis-wirings possible, so ... ... 'Science' won't buy us a litmus for discerning Integrity + Sanity, (either.) Lastly, re. attitudes in this, as towards the [n + 100] intransigent Other Problems for which, because All 'Answers' necessarily try to encompass many contradictory ingredients --are necessarily complex, verbose and thus Not Simple: each person's attitude towards each complex 'Solution'/stab at one, is inevitably related to that person's personal assessment of the Question: Just How Corrupt IS Murica, anyway?? And if one says, "Totally!" then: what's left to 'discuss'? The Nihilists (like the Totally!-responders) will Grab Their Guns, the Wittgenstein faction their philosophical-puzzle dictionaries and Popper's folks--their language glossaries.. (And I shall, that day--attempt to rescue more cats/quicker; my allegiance is to their total guilelessness ... as no human possesses) *..as I ignore the 'people removing their clothes at bus stops', tune out everyone who begins any sentence, I Am Certain that ____* and probably limit my meeja inputs even further.** Luck to Us All, especially in a time where mis-Communication towers over mere occasional instances where.. it Does Not.
Post #379,102 by boxley 8/11/13 12:02:22 AM Reply	nsa needs an Angleton with brief only exceeded by director and a way to get around them if needed. Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free American and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 58 years. meep
Post #379,103 by Another Scott 8/11/13 12:15:21 AM Reply	Re: nsa needs an Angleton with brief only exceeded by direct http://en.wikipedia....eton#The_Molehunt Throughout the 1960s and 1970s Angleton privately accused various foreign leaders of being Soviet spies. He twice informed the Royal Canadian Mounted Police that he believed Prime Minister Lester Pearson and his successor Pierre Trudeau to be agents of the Soviet Union. In 1964, under pressure from Angleton, the RCMP detained John Watkins, a close friend of Pearson and formerly Canadian Ambassador to the Soviet Union; Watkins died during interrogation by the RCMP and the CIA, and was subsequently cleared of suspicion. Angleton accused Swedish Prime Minister Olof Palme, West German Chancellor Willy Brandt, and British Prime Minister Harold Wilson of using their access to NATO secrets to benefit the USSR. Brandt resigned in 1974, after one of his aides was found to be a mole from the East German secret police. Angleton came to suspect Secretary of State Henry Kissinger, who commented wryly that even the most brilliant and loyal officers should not spend their entire career in such pressurized and paranoid fields.[citation needed] Angleton also privately accused numerous members of Congress and President Gerald Ford of treason.[citation needed] Angleton's notorious pursuit of the "5th Man", who he believed had penetrated a secret agency in Washington, was solved, he believed, when DCI William Colby fired him.[citation needed] No one was above suspicion, and even Angleton himself was accused by others of working for the Soviets.[citation needed] Resignation[edit source \| editbeta] Angleton's resignation was announced on Christmas Eve of 1974, just as President Ford demanded that Colby report on the allegations and as various Congressional committees announced that they would launch their own inquiries. Three of Angleton's senior aides in counter-intelligence, his deputy Raymond Rocca, executive officer of the counter-intelligence division William J. Hood, and Angleton's chief of operations Newton S. Miller, were coaxed into retirement within a week of Angleton's resignation after it was made clear that they would be transferred elsewhere in the agency rather than promoted, and the counter-intelligence staff was reduced from 300 people to 80 people. Yeah, someone looking for Communists under every bed, suspicious of foreign leaders, accusing the president of treason, etc., is just what the NSA needs. Sure. :-/ Cheers, Scott.
Post #379,105 by boxley 8/11/13 12:57:50 AM Reply	on your way to imprision the CIC you find a lot of bad guys all of the sleazys checking on their baby mommas. Started a jacket on you because you told them to fuck off down the road in public. The real problem, humans having access to that kind of data. Oh hey, you can't search that without a supervisor signoff and a warrant. Okay, but the mount won't stay up Then do whatever you have to do, here is the root password and by the way, rm -rf the logs so they can't tell why we went down. I need my job security Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free American and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 58 years. meep
Post #379,107 by Ashton 8/11/13 2:16:18 AM Reply	Is that your bid for the Year's Silliest 'thought'?
Post #379,171 by Ashton 8/12/13 4:32:36 PM Reply	I retract above.. ("Do I contradict myself? Very well, I contradict myself; I contain multitudes ..." --Walt Whitman) OK, what we need then, given your encyclopædic Knowledge of the execrable degree-of-sloth common to all bit-biting-Bitches {??} IS >YOU< I propose this Joint Executive/Legislative Branches Resolution: As President, I announce today the appointment of The Security Ayatollah: for a Prosperous/Safe/Fun America. This Person [Name/location/data/picture withheld: for all reasons of his Personal Security] shall have Ultimate-veto over any existing Security Regulations affecting the States, the Nation, {all participating in the Coalition of the Willing}..So Long as He {..we let him} Lives. His compensation shall be adequate, with a basic ration of whale blubber for daily sustenance--Guaranteed. We [The Congress/The President] shall Get Back to Y'all.. after his revisions have been installed, his performance evaluated and The Country Remains un-Nuked. Thank You.. that will be all for this press conference..Bailiff! detain that man in the back row with the knapsack!!!

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