You finally answered me, thanks
We killed Christ, and STILL refuse to accept him into our hearts, how dare we!
You mentioned that before, but didn't make it clear that you think that's the central issue.
I never suggested Jews did anything to deserve what's been done to them. My original question was:
So assuming it's true that Jews are the most persecuted people in the world, and assuming it's not mostly a case of seeing what you're looking for ... why are Jews persecuted? I'm really interested in the answer, because I can't think of one.
You responded six times before ever suggesting that it had anything to do with Jesus.
Jesus!
No Jesus, no peace.
Then asked a question about the pedophile priest scandal. It looked like misdirection. I didn't get that you were saying that lack of belief in Jesus was the central issue. Because, you know, you didn't say that.
Was this it?
And yes, I'm aware of the many splits within the the cult of Jesus. You guys war with each other all the time. But it seems you can occasionally agree on a common enemy.
Was that where you were making it clear what you thought was the central issue?
If I'm supposed to pick up on hints and implications, then maybe you can pick up on my direct statement:
People who hate Jews don't hate them because of blood libel; they believe the blood libel because they hate Jews.
Maybe I'm wrong. You obviously think so, but it took this long for you to finally state your opinion clearly.
When people believed the Earth was flat, the Earth hadn't done anything to "deserve" that belief. But there was a reason for it. Jews haven't done anything to deserve what they've gotten, but I assume there has to be a reason for it. And I've been trying as hard as I can to understand what that reason is.
The blood libel stuff is so obviously crap that I find it hard to accept that intelligent people would believe it. Most of the so-called reasons are obviously crap. Can mass stupidity really stay this organized for this long?
The reasons having to do with human nature make more sense to me:
* Jews value thinking for yourself and standing apart from people who don't. Man is a herd animal, so outsiders and individualists will always be targets.
* Jews have been successful enough for long enough -- because they value thinking for yourself? -- that there are a bunch of them all around the world. So when the local majority is looking for someone to beat up on, there's a good chance there are Jews around.
Both points raised in this thread, by the way.
And after talking around the issue for two days, you finally tell me what you think: It's because Jews killed Jesus.
Maybe it's a combination of all three reasons, and many more besides. And maybe on a day-to-day basis it doesn't matter what the reason is: It happens and Jews need to defend themselves.
But if the fighting is ever going to end, doesn't there need to be some common understanding of what the fight is actually about?
