how about a different question

Post #327,747 by boxley 6/10/10 6:04:48 PM Reply	how about a different question Is there going to be a piece of dirt on this planet where only jews can decide to kill jews? Cureently there is, a lot of reasonable majority folks think that the answer to that is no and are doing their best to insure that jews may only live with the grace of an intolerant majority. Why do they think that?
Post #327,751 by drook 6/10/10 6:58:38 PM Reply	As long as there are X and not-X in the world ... ... some X will try to kill some not-X. What you're asking for is a place with no Jews. They have a word for that: Ethnic cleansing. -- Drew
Post #327,753 by crazy 6/10/10 7:16:28 PM Reply	No, it's called rule of law As the majority, you see the problem as someone else's, and the choice doesn't include them surviving.
Post #327,760 by drook 6/10/10 8:17:31 PM Reply	I'm responding to Box's question "...where only jews can decide to kill jews" -- Drew
Post #327,769 by boxley 6/10/10 9:51:58 PM Reply	im not wanting to dismantle israel since that currently is the only place that jews decide why and when jews get killed. I am asking why the majority thinks that should be changed? You are part of that majority so I was asking you why people think that way. Not to kill all jews, just not allow them to have their own nation state and be dependent on the good will of the majority to stay alive? That is what I am asking.
Post #327,772 by drook 6/10/10 10:01:28 PM Reply	Show me where I said that Or are you asking me as the spokesman for the majority? Fine, I'll take a shot. (Note that I don't agree with any of this, but it's an easy argument to make.) Jews wanted their own land, because they were persecuted everywhere else. They got their own land, and they act no better than anyone else had. Besides, we fought WWII and kicked Germany's ass. If you were all just going to leave Germany anyway, why did we have to fight a war first? Easy, cheap, lazy thinking. But seems compelling to someone who doesn't know the history and doesn't care to look into it. Which is why I am asking. Because I want to understand. -- Drew
Post #327,775 by boxley 6/10/10 10:04:42 PM Reply	never said you believe that however you are asking a minority why the majority hates them? Perhaps they are too busy living and avoiding the majority to really care why, they just want to live
Post #327,800 by mhuber 6/11/10 4:07:46 AM Reply	We didn't kick Hitler's ass to rescue the Jews We did that to stop him conquering the world. Rescuing the remaining Jews was a nice side effect. The historical record on WW II is even clearer than Lincoln's many statements that he was preserving the Union, not freeing the slaves. --------------------------------------- I think it's perfectly clear we're in the wrong band. (Tori Amos)

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