And the Thousand Year Reich would have corrected itself . .

Post #7,179 by Andrew Grygus 8/30/01 2:16:16 AM Reply	And the Thousand Year Reich would have corrected itself . . . . eventually, so it was a mistake to have fought it, no? [link\|http://www.aaxnet.com\|AAx]
Post #7,181 by Ashton 8/30/01 6:03:23 AM Reply	Touch\ufffd____cackle___cackle_____Market Forces for Dummies\ufffd Gotta love the Authoritative Explanations in those dusty Adam Smith tomes, for all those MBA Principles governing er Kapitalism in delicto flagrante!* (Never mind that guy behind the curtain! / those 'laws on the books' / er 'enforced' only after the $$ have long-gone to the Usual Pockets.) Yup: Market Forces at Work\ufffd as the sheep shearing is over for the season.. * "Tui grosnya Kapitalistichiskaya svinya!" Cackle.. Cackle.. Cackle.. Cackle.. Cackle.. Cackle.. Cackle.. Cackle.. Cackle.. Cackle.. Cackle.. Cackle.. Cackle.. Cackle.. Cackle.. Cackle.. Cackle.. Cackle.. Cackle.. Cackle.. Cackle.. Cackle.. Cackle.. Cackle.. Cackle.. Cackle.. Cackle.. Cackle.. Cackle.. Cackle..
Post #7,188 by addison 8/30/01 9:38:10 AM Reply	Markets, Andrew, not Governments. Governments skew the whole situation to hell. Markets. Not Government. Sorry to interrupt the ob-nazi-reference. Addison
Post #7,197 by inthane-chan 8/30/01 10:39:19 AM Reply	False Godwin. It's not there yet - you aren't comparing each other to Nazis. "He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." - Friedrich Nietzsche
Post #7,210 by addison 8/30/01 11:19:19 AM Reply	False False godwin. I didn't call Godwin. :) I merely referenced the nazi reference, and said it was obligatory. :) Addison
Post #7,211 by Andrew Grygus 8/30/01 11:32:44 AM Reply	I fail to see the difference. Whenever businesses have been given free reign they seek to become (and sometimes have become) the government of their domain. Microsoft most certainly has in mind being more powerful than any government, and for a while there thought it already was. Bill Gates is reputed to have said so and placed himself as more powerful than the President. Business today seeks to transcend the traditional controls by "internationalization", become an international government not bound by any jurisdiction restricted by boarders and superseeding any regional governments in the same way governments have traditionally superseeded business by having greater scope. In the other direction, governments steadily evolve to totalitarianism and serving a small elite, just like businesses. In fact, on that path you will hear many claims of making government more "efficient" (totalitarian) by applying "sound business principles". So, again, I see no basic difference. They are the same thing, and if not restrained by an aroused public, become totalitarian states. [link\|http://www.aaxnet.com\|AAx]
Post #7,216 by Andrew Grygus 8/30/01 11:57:39 AM Reply	The one sentence version A government is a business who's market is providing and running civic facilities (generally as a monopoly). Now I see even less difference. [link\|http://www.aaxnet.com\|AAx]
Post #7,229 by addison 8/30/01 1:28:37 PM Reply	I agree, its a failing. :) Government's aren't directly constrained and controlled by market forces. While market forces can cause disruption (chaos, overthrow, coup) - they do not directly change the force that a government can exert. As opposed to a business/monopoly. If everybody stopped buying Microsoft tomorrow, they'd disappear. Addison

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