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Post #387,705
by rcareaga
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3/18/14 11:13:14 PM
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New Putin's take
Disagreeable, but not altogether delusional.

http://www.nytimes.c...imea.html?hp&_r=0

cordially,
Post #387,751
by Ashton
3/20/14 1:15:37 AM
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New I knew a 'relative' of the co-author
of this piece, one Dalyta derVartanyan (a Princess, of her tribe.. I was told.)
She married a physicist I knew, (one whose social graces reminded me of a character in Breakfast at Tiffany's--the geekish '2nd-richest guy' Ms. Golightly was then pursuing.)
(Irrelevant to This 'Vartanyan' ... but I always look for synchroniciity, though--what else is 'memory' good for?)

There aren't enough hours/day for me to make substantial use of the cornucopia of info within The Times--so Thanks for culling this one.
(I met, chatted with one of your ex-Pats way-back--Cinco de Mayo celebration, IIRC. He corrected my impoverished elocution of my fav Russki saying, re. Kapitalichiiskaya.. Cousin?)

I derive from this (artfully concise) article that, much as in the dis-USA, the mythos of Capitalism is in danger of corrupting itsy-South Ossetia, as it has Putin's Russia.
That assumption leads to the obvious: unless/until both S.O. and Russia supersede un-regulated US-vulture-Kapitalismo, re. their social-financial principles:
Nothing useful will be buildable-upon. In either country.

Dunno the Russian word for corruption, but the piece illustrates how it cancels-out even the most sincere offers/actions of assistance.
Just like Here.

One can only empathize with the denizens of both, currently mis-guided 'Nations'. We are such babies, despite all that (unread) History.
{{sigh}}

     Who do these Russians in Crimea think they are? - (mmoffitt) - (50) - March 17, 2014, 12:14:14 PM EDT
         Serious question:How was the Black Sea Fleet ever threatened -NT - (Another Scott) - (10) - March 17, 2014, 12:49:53 PM EDT
             It wasn't. - (mmoffitt) - (9) - March 17, 2014, 02:23:31 PM EDT
                 <sigh> - (Another Scott) - (5) - March 17, 2014, 02:52:33 PM EDT
                     You mean she isn't one? -NT - (mmoffitt) - March 17, 2014, 04:00:49 PM EDT
                     Back at you. - (mmoffitt) - (3) - March 18, 2014, 12:21:25 PM EDT
                         Read my post, and the linkies, again please. :-) -NT - (Another Scott) - (2) - March 18, 2014, 12:31:59 PM EDT
                             Wikipedia? That's your sole source? </me falls over> - (mmoffitt) - (1) - March 18, 2014, 12:33:55 PM EDT
                                 Wikipedia has cites. HTH. -NT - (Another Scott) - March 18, 2014, 02:02:52 PM EDT
                 Counterpoint. - (Another Scott) - March 17, 2014, 04:10:10 PM EDT
                 You're buying into Yanukovych spin. - (a6l6e6x) - (1) - March 17, 2014, 11:18:37 PM EDT
                     One thing I do know. - (mmoffitt) - March 18, 2014, 11:53:46 AM EDT
         BS! They reneged on Ukraine's nuclear arms agreement. - (a6l6e6x) - (4) - March 17, 2014, 12:57:00 PM EDT
             I understand that. - (mmoffitt) - March 17, 2014, 02:12:13 PM EDT
             Plan B: - (pwhysall) - (2) - March 17, 2014, 06:18:57 PM EDT
                 Putin seems to have realized that. - (Another Scott) - (1) - March 17, 2014, 06:44:24 PM EDT
                     Money talks, Russkies walk - (pwhysall) - March 18, 2014, 02:58:39 AM EDT
         Boundaries rejiggered - (rcareaga) - (15) - March 18, 2014, 10:28:50 PM EDT
             Putin's take - (rcareaga) - (1) - March 18, 2014, 11:13:14 PM EDT
                 I knew a 'relative' of the co-author - (Ashton) - March 20, 2014, 01:15:37 AM EDT
             my take - (boxley) - (12) - March 18, 2014, 11:13:47 PM EDT
                 The Red Army - (rcareaga) - March 19, 2014, 12:55:20 AM EDT
                 "owns the euro fuel supply" - (pwhysall) - March 19, 2014, 02:46:44 AM EDT
                 Agreed that one has to worry about uncontrolled escalation. - (Another Scott) - (9) - March 19, 2014, 08:25:36 AM EDT
                     Re: escalation and Sochi. - (mmoffitt) - (5) - March 19, 2014, 09:57:56 AM EDT
                         One can always make arguments to justify one's actions. - (Another Scott) - (4) - March 19, 2014, 11:03:23 AM EDT
                             I'm not saying the Russians are heroes. - (mmoffitt) - (3) - March 19, 2014, 11:20:52 AM EDT
                                 Agreement. But that's not the topic, is it? :-) -NT - (Another Scott) - (2) - March 19, 2014, 11:24:13 AM EDT
                                     Fine. We're picking nits now are we? :0) -NT - (mmoffitt) - (1) - March 19, 2014, 11:29:03 AM EDT
                                         That's what we do, especially in this forum! :-) -NT - (Another Scott) - March 19, 2014, 11:49:38 AM EDT
                     Ukraine would resist all right - (boxley) - March 19, 2014, 01:11:10 PM EDT
                     all sorts of sound reasons for behaving rationally - (rcareaga) - (1) - March 19, 2014, 03:32:19 PM EDT
                         On that note, let us Here embark upon a similar - (Ashton) - March 19, 2014, 05:31:08 PM EDT
         Putin the revanchist - (rcareaga) - (17) - March 19, 2014, 09:10:36 PM EDT
             Even accepting all of that... - (Another Scott) - (16) - March 19, 2014, 11:04:05 PM EDT
                 delving into a little history - (boxley) - (2) - March 20, 2014, 12:24:42 AM EDT
                     Jeez, Box! - (Ashton) - (1) - March 20, 2014, 12:41:37 AM EDT
                         I keep telling y'all... - (folkert) - March 20, 2014, 11:45:55 AM EDT
                 Interesting times.. - (Ashton) - March 20, 2014, 12:26:16 AM EDT
                 Imagine Canada - (rcareaga) - (11) - March 20, 2014, 01:36:49 AM EDT
                     One could imagine that. - (Another Scott) - (10) - March 20, 2014, 07:23:21 AM EDT
                         my scenario was deliberately lurid - (rcareaga) - (9) - March 20, 2014, 10:00:48 AM EDT
                             On Canada... - (Another Scott) - March 20, 2014, 10:37:38 AM EDT
                             If we suppose that Putin's take on our corrupt authoritarian - (Ashton) - (7) - March 21, 2014, 05:54:18 AM EDT
                                 The likelihood of the Maritimes joining the US in the event - (jake123) - (6) - March 22, 2014, 09:29:46 AM EDT
                                     Maritimes? not likely. I could see Alberta maybe - (boxley) - (2) - March 22, 2014, 12:40:21 PM EDT
                                         Right now Alberta is in a class of its own` - (jake123) - (1) - March 22, 2014, 12:45:55 PM EDT
                                             Very interesting. Thanks. -NT - (Another Scott) - March 22, 2014, 01:24:00 PM EDT
                                     Robertson Davies on Canada - (rcareaga) - (2) - March 22, 2014, 12:50:40 PM EDT
                                         Excellent. Thanks. -NT - (Another Scott) - March 22, 2014, 01:23:40 PM EDT
                                         {{Chortle, long guffaw..}} -NT - (Ashton) - March 22, 2014, 06:09:03 PM EDT

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