One can always make arguments to justify one's actions.

http://www.cfr.org/a...ances-1994/p32484

[Russia, UK, USA] Confirm the following:

1. The Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the United States of America reaffirm their commitment to Ukraine, in accordance with the principles of the Final Act of the Conference on Security and Cooperation in Europe, to respect the independence and sovereignty and the existing borders of Ukraine;

2. The Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the United States of America reaffirm their obligation to refrain from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of Ukraine, and that none of their weapons will ever be used against Ukraine except in self-defence or otherwise in accordance with the Charter of the United Nations;

It's pretty hard to square that with what Putin did.

The Black Sea was a bathtub as far back as 1905 - http://books.google....nned%20in&f=false . If a serious war ever breaks out, Russia's ships there will be stuck. The BSF is a convenient, but transparent, excuse.

FWIW.

Cheers,
Scott.

Post #387,722 by Another Scott 3/19/14 11:03:23 AM Reply	One can always make arguments to justify one's actions. http://www.cfr.org/a...ances-1994/p32484 [Russia, UK, USA] Confirm the following: 1. The Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the United States of America reaffirm their commitment to Ukraine, in accordance with the principles of the Final Act of the Conference on Security and Cooperation in Europe, to respect the independence and sovereignty and the existing borders of Ukraine; 2. The Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the United States of America reaffirm their obligation to refrain from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of Ukraine, and that none of their weapons will ever be used against Ukraine except in self-defence or otherwise in accordance with the Charter of the United Nations; It's pretty hard to square that with what Putin did. The Black Sea was a bathtub as far back as 1905 - http://books.google....nned%20in&f=false . If a serious war ever breaks out, Russia's ships there will be stuck. The BSF is a convenient, but transparent, excuse. FWIW. Cheers, Scott.
Post #387,723 by mmoffitt 3/19/14 11:20:52 AM Reply	I'm not saying the Russians are heroes. Just that we aren't either.
Post #387,724 by Another Scott 3/19/14 11:24:13 AM Reply	Agreement. But that's not the topic, is it? :-)
Post #387,727 by mmoffitt 3/19/14 11:29:03 AM Reply	Fine. We're picking nits now are we? :0)
Post #387,729 by Another Scott 3/19/14 11:49:38 AM Reply	That's what we do, especially in this forum! :-)

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