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New Here's one I hadn't thought of
Drug testing. Pot is illegal in your state, it's legal five minutes away in the neighboring state. You pop positive on a test. Your defense is now, "Yeah, so?"
--

Drew
New doesn't matter
If your company had a federal contract, they have federal drug law standards.
If they have a "drug free workplace" standard, same. There is no defense against arbitrary workplace rules. Some will fire cigarette smokers, no appeal. If you are not part of a protected class and fired specifically for membership, you are screwed.

In his case he gets to determine his office's drug rule policy. He's an "owner". Most of us do not have that flexibility.

Same for mmj.
https://www.google.com/search?q=fired+medical+marijuana
Expand Edited by crazy Aug. 1, 2014, 03:17:18 PM EDT
New Ayup
BDS'd fire my elderly arse in a heartbeat to stay on the side of the angels as construed by the federal standards. If, as I'm now fairly confident, California legalizes in another couple of years, I'd bet the rent that the policy will remain quite implacably in force.

cordially,
New whenever I see BDS I read it as
Brain Damaged Software, my first non-Unix C compiler.
http://www.bdsoft.com/resources/bdsc.html
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/BDS_C
Expand Edited by crazy Aug. 1, 2014, 04:58:11 PM EDT
New Ed Ziemba..
A co-worker at BDS ... last-name; one I'd heard; odd-names I seem to recall better than most.

(You have to Find:(name) within that link) Was a 25 yo MIT grad; as you see in those few sentences: had he not drowned in a weird snorkeling accident ... In a Pond!? way-back:
Well.. if not hyperbole: imagine OS X vastly-earlier? Some Z-guy steals all of Jobs' early-thunder?

Strange Universe we inhabit: it forks; every mSec.
New InfoWorld had a short story on him.
August 17, 1981 issue.

It's amazing what those folks were able to do with such tiny amounts of memory.

Cheers,
Scott.
New Ever since WordStar in 58k..
have we not seen that slick tight code.. the brash young Billy crowed about, balloon into the n-million lines: in a bloody OS!? ... (not some gigundo-App.)

Sure, new high-res graphics etc. but in practice: has not practice become sloppier?, thus ever-bloated--with all the consequent problems of Finding, amidst tens-of-thousands: those regular 'buffer overflows, created by 'Team' fragmentation of every project?'? (and how many new grads of computer-munging have ever read The Mythical Man-Month?)

I mean: when Billy decided that "640K is LOTS of memory", (so let's make that the next-10-year Std) was not already.. Moore's Law a shibboleth?
20/20 hindsight and all, it's eerie to contemplate just this odd happenstance: an innocent 'BDS' TLA mentioned here, leading to comment about the random loss of just One promising innovator.

(Then I imagine all the talent (and their discoveries) adsorbed into M/Soft and, simply buried.)
All these Years! and M/Soft remains: the Pinnacle of sustained-Mediocrity. They HAD the Power to rapidly excel/advance on all fronts--controlled by an arrogant/rich child-dropout
whos aims were: merely to be The Monopolist. In that he succeeded as all of the world Lost (unknowable Things.)
(The World got.. DLL-Hell, bogus drivers-roulette, inane Naming of processes!--merely to be Different--and All Those Oversights in every design!)

It seems another clear indictment of the Vulture-capitalist process: which always places the Greediest/not the Smartest at the apex of all bizness pyramids :-/



{sigh} Can't we do Anything? beyond mere system-gaming cleverness, as Brilliance gets no Respect (certainly little Power.)
We won't handle the looming existential matters via this Model of stark-Incompetence. I wot.
New Good catch!
No wonder there was a vague recollection of BDS. But, back in those days, I used an assembler.
Alex

"There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."”

-- Isaac Asimov
New like here
http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/arizona/2014/08/05/pima-county-official-wants-to-stop-hiring-smokers/13626509/

And I am somewhat supportive of this. At my last job I paid an extra $100 per month for my health insurance for being a smoker. It does cost more to take care of us in the health system. I also knew my productivity was less due to me taking smoke breaks because I could not smoke in the building, which is why I actually quit smoking my final month when I was there. On the other hand, some people smoke strictly on off hours, maybe an occasional cigar or pipe and manage not to have it affect their job, and for those people, this sucks.
New On the other hand...
those smokers huddling outdoors get a chance to network with their kind. I had seen that pay off at IBM.
Alex

"There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."”

-- Isaac Asimov
New for sure
Even when I did not smoke, I would take an occasional outdoors break. At that point I could bullshit with top level execs with no boss mediation.
New Passed along.. +5 Smart
I think that's a valuable insight for anyone under the thrall of corporate--who wants to survive.
Think also that it's indicative of your ability to crunch some topic via an unusual overview (of what affects it.)
All this despite the alleged drain bamage you have suffered via science-experiments-on-self.

(Who Knows!? how affable, get-along puppy-friendly (and banal..) you might have become..) had you merely submitted to pop-ƒeare ... of anything not Authorized by er.. you know.
Personally I'lll trade insight for that warm-fuzzy-acceptance gained by reinforcing the mob/local or larger. Cheap endorphins are like Two-Buck chuck, I wot: ersatz.

Luck on Tues. ... ...
(Whatever happens, you know you couldn't have let Puritanism be a guide other-than: No! Don't conform to institutionalized sanctimony-in-all-things. Right?)



Law above fear, justice above law, mercy above justice, love above all.
New No idea level of drain bamage, but
On my 1st week of the job (8 years ago) I was talking to a very attractive blonde corp project manager at my 1st after work bar gathering. I was not touching anything in those days, so sipping coke while they all got trashed. I explain that I had over indulged in my youth, so I was staying away from it for now.

I assume she was in ass kiss mode, since she said it was probably a good thing I did so many drugs in my youth, it knocked off enough IQ points that I could deal with mere mortals at that point.

On the other hand, I felt I had merely hit the age that my testosterone was dropping and my verbal skills were increasing, along with a self confidence level achieved through many years of accomplishments, which allowed me to speak to her without being afraid. She was gorgeous. And fucking her boss' husband who also worked at the company. Damn, that was a blowup when it all came out.
New Heh..
Tardily..
it more and more seems that that Corporate Experience (which I have luckily evaded all-aong) creates its own Alt-liff wherein, the glands supersede all the pop-psych mores with a wink/nudge.
I (merely) suspect that this constitutes also some sort of just-revenge against the utter boredom of contemplating: that all one's daily efforts are sucked into the multiplying-riches of some of the more odious personalities on the planet.

er, Tit.. for Tat -tered-dreams of say, authentic compensation for efforts made? but only on behalf of the monumentally ungrateful, mentioned dregs of humanity.
Love. It. gratefully from ... ... afar.

(Unsure whether I could have coped with the onion layers there; still there was.. this grand-daughter (?) of Otto Hahn--Nobel chemist, discoverer of fission)
--so maybe all 'Enterprises' are alike. It's where we spit in the eye of the first Puritan ever spawned.
New Not how it works
It was quite common for 0 got hauled off to jail and charged with underage possession of alcohol.
     NYT 2014 = Cronkite 1968? - (rcareaga) - (84)
         Velly intellesting! - (folkert) - (3)
             Because money and land actually matter - (drook) - (2)
                 'zactly! -NT - (folkert)
                 +1 on that! - (a6l6e6x)
         What do I care what a bunch of damned yankees says about anything. - (mmoffitt) - (39)
             No one imagines anymore that you're persuadable - (rcareaga) - (38)
                 It is a personal idiom. - (mmoffitt) - (36)
                     Re: It is a personal idiom. - (pwhysall) - (1)
                         rofl. :-) -NT - (Another Scott)
                     and as an added bonus - (rcareaga) - (33)
                         Now now... - (folkert) - (1)
                             Ubi pus, ibi evacua -NT - (rcareaga)
                         I knew you were a closet bankster fan. - (mmoffitt) - (30)
                             Cherry-picking for fun and profit. - (malraux) - (29)
                                 Okay. Mea Culpa. - (mmoffitt) - (28)
                                     Not me. - (malraux) - (3)
                                         Vermont might be okay. - (mmoffitt) - (2)
                                             You don't think all of NY looks like NYC, right? -NT - (malraux) - (1)
                                                 Sure. Some of it looks like Buffalo. (just kidding) -NT - (mmoffitt)
                                     To paraphrase the late Herb Caen - (rcareaga) - (18)
                                         And support those living in MA, NJ, NY, etc sic nauseum. -NT - (mmoffitt) - (17)
                                             Walked right into that one, didn't you? - (rcareaga) - (16)
                                                 I ain't talkin' just about the taxes, Sparky. - (mmoffitt) - (15)
                                                     At least 4 billionaires live in Indiana. - (Another Scott) - (6)
                                                         Dang, 0.5 * MA billionaires. Thanks for the non-answer answer. -NT - (mmoffitt) - (5)
                                                             Anytime. - (Another Scott) - (4)
                                                                 You mean Aeroflot West? ;0) -NT - (mmoffitt)
                                                                 "From each according to his abilities . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (2)
                                                                     I have only one good reason. - (mmoffitt) - (1)
                                                                         Not for long - the Russians . . . - (Andrew Grygus)
                                                     Nice save: Not. -NT - (rcareaga)
                                                     talk about "disingenuous." - (rcareaga) - (5)
                                                         Dishonest? How so? - (mmoffitt) - (4)
                                                             hyperbole much? - (rcareaga) - (1)
                                                                 I have never exaggerated in my entire life! -NT - (malraux)
                                                             hookers and coke dealers dont contribute? disagree -NT - (boxley)
                                                             Re: Dishonest? How so? (You didn't need any hyperbole..) - (Ashton)
                                                     inexplicable dupe - (rcareaga)
                                     Jesusland? No thanks. -NT - (pwhysall) - (4)
                                         that may be overblown - (boxley) - (3)
                                             And daughters. And cousins. ;0) -NT - (mmoffitt) - (2)
                                                 They can stay home and meet daughters. And cousins. -NT - (drook) - (1)
                                                     I meant neighbor's daughter's and cousins. Oops. Forget it. You're right. ;0) -NT - (mmoffitt)
                 my new landlrd is a repo state rep - (boxley)
         Back on topic - (rcareaga) - (23)
             Question. - (mmoffitt) - (5)
                 Answer: Yes - (rcareaga)
                 nope, Washington Post - (crazy) - (3)
                     Gee, I'm convinced. A stoner made a blog post. -NT - (mmoffitt) - (2)
                         ah, ad hominem - (crazy) - (1)
                             But even so, I'll bite - (crazy)
             Apologies. I promise this is my first reply that will be on topic. - (mmoffitt) - (16)
                 tell you what, mmoffitt - (rcareaga) - (15)
                     Given the strain... - (folkert)
                     No offense, but I'll take Dr. Cohen's analysis over yours. - (mmoffitt) - (13)
                         I admired Cohen's work in the eighties - (rcareaga)
                         Cohen is in Putin's pocket. - (a6l6e6x) - (11)
                             With respect, I don't think so. - (mmoffitt) - (10)
                                 so you believe him - (crazy) - (8)
                                     Your contribution >/dev/null - (mmoffitt) - (6)
                                         as expected - (crazy)
                                         He may be (or have been) a good guy, but... - (Another Scott) - (4)
                                             The government in Kiev is no more legal than the "separatist" leadership. - (mmoffitt) - (2)
                                                 Lots of "look over there!!1" verbiage. - (Another Scott) - (1)
                                                     And Saddam has WMD. -NT - (mmoffitt)
                                             All Know the precedents for "our Nationals are being harassed in ___" - (Ashton)
                                     To quote you, "Hheheeee hahahahahaa." Useful idiots are delightful. - (mmoffitt)
                                 Well, he's now at minimum senile and can't think straight. -NT - (a6l6e6x)
         The times, they are achangin' - (crazy) - (15)
             Here's one I hadn't thought of - (drook) - (14)
                 doesn't matter - (crazy) - (12)
                     Ayup - (rcareaga) - (5)
                         whenever I see BDS I read it as - (crazy) - (4)
                             Ed Ziemba.. - (Ashton) - (2)
                                 InfoWorld had a short story on him. - (Another Scott) - (1)
                                     Ever since WordStar in 58k.. - (Ashton)
                             Good catch! - (a6l6e6x)
                     like here - (crazy) - (5)
                         On the other hand... - (a6l6e6x) - (4)
                             for sure - (crazy) - (3)
                                 Passed along.. +5 Smart - (Ashton) - (2)
                                     No idea level of drain bamage, but - (crazy) - (1)
                                         Heh.. - (Ashton)
                 Not how it works - (scoenye)

I like my women unassembled, without the hardware already bolted on.
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