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Post #157,633

5/29/04 8:30:34 PM

Nod.

We must treat the root causes, not the symptoms.

Imric's Tips for Living

Paranoia Is a Survival Trait
Pessimists are never disappointed - but sometimes, if they are very lucky, they can be pleasantly surprised...
Even though everyone is out to get you, it doesn't matter unless you let them win.

Nothing is as simple as it seems in the beginning,
As hopeless as it seems in the middle,
Or as finished as it seems in the end.

Post #157,678

5/30/04 6:04:17 AM

Pure Boolean. Again.

Note to obsessed programmers:

PEOPLE DO NOT BEHAVE LOGICALLY.
(Well, hardly ever, and then usually when planning their portfolio, not when reading their Good Books and actually acting on those. Etc.)

Captain Kirk has already explained it to us, in one of those (early) exchanges with a testy Spock.. commenting upon humans' massive predilection for every kind of -cide.

Exasperated, Kirk says, (IIRC)

YES, YES .. WE'RE KILLERS!
.. but each day we can get up and say,
'Today.. I Won't Kill'.

Now this conversation was fictional and set in a (hoped-for) future.. a really Large hope, given the proliferation of 'guns' of the nuclear sort - and with all the OVER-kill which a gun/nuke represents over, say

a slap in the face..

TODAY: We Know we're still iggerant adolescents with too fucking many toys; we entertain ourselves with infinite variations on mayhem, [mayhem + sex}, torture, rape, mass- and individual color-graphic Slaughter
[with/ without sex or separately].

We remain under the madness that is Puritanism, but hourly encouraged to indulge Every Fantasy via toys that all are only Too-eager to sell to All. For $$ - that makes it OK. Capitalismicide?

So in *this milieu* -As With Children, in all things-

AVAILABILITY MATTERS.

I hope this clears it up for you.

Ashton

PS - since Peter promised by proxy, The SUV Rant:

See, eventually it will reach the USSC -
(if it hasn't been folded into the RNC, officially):

The case of *All Drivers* on the roads [plaintiff] that:
the presence of trackless-tanks amidst ordinary cars == a unnecessary hazard to that class [All Drivers] ergo..

compensation followed by official disincentives to continue doing this anti-social type toy stuff of big kids playing in the world-as-[My]-sandbox.

Inevitable. Matches must be kept from toddlers, SUVs from 2 yos.
[2 yo: the age of Mine Mine]

A little Salon *Flash* to remind us - (Ashton) - (84) - May 28, 2004, 06:41:46 AM EDT

If I may paraphrase you: Love ....... It! - (Meerkat) - (1) - May 28, 2004, 06:47:16 AM EDT

not hardly - (boxley) - May 28, 2004, 10:09:04 AM EDT

What a load of cr@p. - (imric) - (81) - May 28, 2004, 09:30:21 AM EDT

That's one way of looking at it. - (pwhysall) - (25) - May 28, 2004, 04:23:51 PM EDT

Put a price tag on it and it's as good as sold... - (hnick) - May 28, 2004, 05:06:37 PM EDT

Chances of getting filled in here are much lower than there - (boxley) - (2) - May 28, 2004, 07:41:17 PM EDT

'filled in'? - (Silverlock) - (1) - May 28, 2004, 08:08:58 PM EDT

euphemism for getting the crap kicked out of you -NT - (boxley) - May 29, 2004, 10:07:27 AM EDT

And how many males have - (imric) - (20) - May 29, 2004, 08:09:56 AM EDT

Well, if your characters are so flawed... - (CRConrad) - (15) - May 29, 2004, 06:26:27 PM EDT

Did I? As if we stood on a par? No. - (imric) - (14) - May 29, 2004, 08:21:15 PM EDT

Re: Did I? As if we stood on a par? No. - (pwhysall) - (3) - May 30, 2004, 04:05:17 AM EDT

They do - (jake123) - (2) - May 30, 2004, 11:03:35 AM EDT

Wrong guns are designed only to kill humans - (boxley) - (1) - May 30, 2004, 11:27:12 AM EDT

The answer is "does not approve of any killing" - (jake123) - May 30, 2004, 11:33:27 AM EDT

Did I? Is that a cogent counter to my argument? No. - (CRConrad) - (9) - May 30, 2004, 05:44:42 PM EDT

No it's not enough. - (imric) - (2) - May 30, 2004, 07:04:14 PM EDT

You're misunderstanding me completely. (And intentionally?) - (CRConrad) - (1) - May 31, 2004, 03:30:50 AM EDT

+ OK... -NT - (imric) - May 31, 2004, 03:33:48 AM EDT

the big disconnect between us - (boxley) - (5) - May 30, 2004, 07:28:09 PM EDT

He has post Nazi PC disease - (deSitter) - (1) - May 30, 2004, 07:31:55 PM EDT

Oh, POAD, you frigging moron. - (CRConrad) - May 31, 2004, 03:47:31 AM EDT

You are totally wrong there, Box. (What else is new? :-) -NT - (CRConrad) - (2) - May 31, 2004, 03:44:47 AM EDT

after reading you reply to Imric on why you joined in - (boxley) - (1) - May 31, 2004, 10:38:54 AM EDT

Sure there is - (deSitter) - May 31, 2004, 11:01:37 AM EDT

Re: And how many males have - (deSitter) - (3) - May 30, 2004, 04:13:58 AM EDT

Top-notch! - (Ashton) - May 30, 2004, 05:29:10 AM EDT

Wow, an anagram! I guess that proves it then. ;) -NT - (FuManChu) - (1) - May 30, 2004, 02:08:01 PM EDT

There is no doubt - (deSitter) - May 30, 2004, 02:58:38 PM EDT

So then..EEZ-availability is entirely Irrelevant.___ I see. -NT - (Ashton) - (54) - May 28, 2004, 04:55:36 PM EDT

Yes. Coincidental. -NT - (imric) - (53) - May 29, 2004, 08:11:07 AM EDT

"Coincidence"??? Bullpucky! - (CRConrad) - (52) - May 29, 2004, 06:49:24 PM EDT

Ill start worrying when my chance of dying by a bullet - (boxley) - (2) - May 29, 2004, 06:53:05 PM EDT

That's silly. - (pwhysall) - (1) - May 30, 2004, 04:12:29 AM EDT

ROFL! I wont reduce my risk of puking blood in my own fat - (boxley) - May 30, 2004, 11:33:25 AM EDT

Re: "Coincidence"??? Bullpucky! - (admin) - (13) - May 29, 2004, 06:58:06 PM EDT

Yeah, possible, but I think that's discounted for already. - (CRConrad) - (2) - May 29, 2004, 07:04:01 PM EDT

Either way... - (admin) - (1) - May 29, 2004, 07:11:11 PM EDT

What do you mean by "problem"? - (CRConrad) - May 30, 2004, 06:19:00 PM EDT

Nod. - (imric) - (1) - May 29, 2004, 08:30:34 PM EDT

Pure Boolean. Again. - (Ashton) - May 30, 2004, 06:04:17 AM EDT

Oakland calling - (rcareaga) - (7) - May 30, 2004, 11:27:01 AM EDT

just be glad they are not using grenades or suicide bombers - (boxley) - (6) - May 30, 2004, 11:35:56 AM EDT

Whatever, Box. - (pwhysall) - (4) - May 30, 2004, 11:39:09 AM EDT

gee the guy that does that is - (boxley) - (3) - May 30, 2004, 11:41:14 AM EDT

I'd say that's part of the problem. - (inthane-chan) - (2) - May 30, 2004, 08:12:33 PM EDT

Um, I must pick that nit. - (Another Scott) - (1) - May 30, 2004, 08:38:11 PM EDT

No argument there. - (inthane-chan) - May 30, 2004, 09:05:22 PM EDT

Private ownership of guns banned in Chicago - (lincoln) - May 30, 2004, 08:33:17 PM EDT

Guns are not a cause. - (imric) - (34) - May 29, 2004, 08:29:31 PM EDT

Computers were designed for things other than virus creation - (Meerkat) - (27) - May 29, 2004, 08:45:16 PM EDT

'stuff'? - (imric) - (26) - May 29, 2004, 09:07:28 PM EDT

Completely not the point I was trying to get across. - (Meerkat) - (25) - May 29, 2004, 09:37:53 PM EDT

Missing mine. - (imric) - (24) - May 29, 2004, 09:43:40 PM EDT

Guns like computers are tools - (orion) - (23) - May 30, 2004, 01:13:01 AM EDT

Re: Guns like computers are tools - (pwhysall) - (22) - May 30, 2004, 04:03:00 AM EDT

You note the futility, but ... - (Another Scott) - (21) - May 30, 2004, 12:37:52 PM EDT

Militias != army !=police - (imric) - (20) - May 30, 2004, 03:01:44 PM EDT

I can't help it. - (mmoffitt) - (19) - May 31, 2004, 03:50:47 PM EDT

larn yersel history - (boxley) - (4) - May 31, 2004, 04:35:51 PM EDT

You want to check those dates again? - (mmoffitt) - (3) - May 31, 2004, 08:04:31 PM EDT

absolute bull puckey from a man who grew up in NC - (boxley) - (2) - May 31, 2004, 11:27:57 PM EDT

That we would owe to... - (mmoffitt) - (1) - June 1, 2004, 11:24:00 AM EDT

Somewhat OT: a single Frenchman - (admin) - June 1, 2004, 04:43:40 PM EDT

Sorry. Wrong. - (imric) - (13) - May 31, 2004, 07:36:51 PM EDT

Guess again. - (mmoffitt) - (11) - May 31, 2004, 08:09:23 PM EDT

Yeah, and what other 'perversions' have occured via SC? - (imric) - (10) - May 31, 2004, 08:47:29 PM EDT

Who said anything about the Army? - (mmoffitt) - (9) - May 31, 2004, 11:11:32 PM EDT

Compare 2nd Amendment to VA Bill of Rights from 6/12/1776 - (Another Scott) - (1) - May 31, 2004, 11:29:04 PM EDT

interesting - (jake123) - June 1, 2004, 01:20:17 PM EDT

So according to you the supreme court is never wrong? - (boxley) - May 31, 2004, 11:29:53 PM EDT

Militia - (bepatient) - (5) - May 31, 2004, 11:30:25 PM EDT

Did *you* understand the *original* definition? - (CRConrad) - (4) - June 1, 2004, 04:31:57 AM EDT

Nice try, but.. - (Ashton) - June 1, 2004, 06:03:54 AM EDT

No. - (imric) - (1) - June 1, 2004, 06:27:08 AM EDT

that is a very good point - (SpiceWare) - June 1, 2004, 09:50:31 AM EDT

Wanna read what started it? - (bepatient) - June 1, 2004, 02:24:35 PM EDT

Then.. in a Document renowned for its blinding clarity, - (Ashton) - May 31, 2004, 08:14:34 PM EDT

Re: Guns are not a cause. - (pwhysall) - (1) - May 30, 2004, 04:11:04 AM EDT

yes they both should be legal and cheap - (boxley) - May 30, 2004, 11:39:04 AM EDT

They don't have to be. Are you denying they are a means? - (CRConrad) - (3) - May 30, 2004, 06:24:58 PM EDT

Patriots. I understand him perfectly. - (deSitter) - (2) - May 30, 2004, 06:28:04 PM EDT

Aye. -NT - (imric) - May 30, 2004, 07:08:11 PM EDT

Yeah, yeah. All noble sentiments... - (CRConrad) - May 31, 2004, 03:41:28 AM EDT

Innovation from the rear again.
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