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Post #312,832 by beepster 8/20/09 12:51:56 PM Reply	Excuse me, but the point is that these concerns are NOT BEING ADDRESSED. So why do you then go ask me to find people addressing them? They aren't being denied. They are getting care in the more expensive emergency centers. So getting them coverage is supposed to save money. How, if we need to add expense to expand the area of coverage they are not receiving (primary) to offset the coverage they are (urgent care). Where's the savings? I will choose a path that's clear. I will choose freewill.
Post #312,838 by jake123 8/20/09 1:05:27 PM Reply	That's all well and good but somehow Everybody Else does what you're saying won't work, does it for less, and gets better outcomes. What is so esp. incompetent about Americans that they can't do it too?
Post #312,840 by drook 8/20/09 1:16:55 PM Reply	Addressing != asking Opponents of the Democratic plans keep shouting "No!" at the top of their lungs. To hear them talk, when they bother to make a coherent point (which may happen more than half the time, but it doesn't make the news) we have the best possible system in the world. Except, you know, don't let more people into it because there isn't enough of it to go around as it is. My question is, if the current system is already stretched beyond capacity, where were all these screaming people last year? Where were the organized protests against the inadequacies of the system last year? If people are quiet when a Republican proposes something, but scream in protest when a Democrat proposes the same thing, do you see why I might suspect that their concern isn't with the substance of the issue but with party politics? That's why Barney Frank's response was so dead-on. He called the woman out as someone who wasn't experiencing the same reality as him, and who wasn't interested in an honest debate. She, like everyone else who didn't speak up until the Democrats started pushing reform, didn't have any credibility. That's why yes, it does matter who is asking the questions. It's not worth the effort to debate policy with someone who is focused on ideology. -- Drew
Post #312,874 by beepster 8/20/09 9:58:23 PM Reply	So instead its better to just think everyone is that way...and not address any substantive issues. Okee dokee. I will choose a path that's clear. I will choose freewill.

Arguments against, at their most basic - (beepster) - (54) - Aug. 19, 2009, 10:39:30 AM EDT

Baum doesn't like Obama. Film at 11:00. ;-) - (Another Scott) - (53) - Aug. 19, 2009, 10:52:42 AM EDT

Completely different discussions - (beepster) - (52) - Aug. 19, 2009, 02:43:00 PM EDT

Where did "unpatriotic" come from? - (drook) - (32) - Aug. 19, 2009, 11:15:56 AM EDT

Pelosi. -NT - (beepster) - (31) - Aug. 19, 2009, 12:17:01 PM EDT

And what was the quote again? - (Another Scott) - (30) - Aug. 19, 2009, 12:22:17 PM EDT

Re: And what was the quote again? - (beepster) - (29) - Aug. 19, 2009, 12:38:15 PM EDT

Now you're just stirring the pot ... you're not that stupid - (drook) - (27) - Aug. 19, 2009, 12:49:17 PM EDT

If we want to focus - (beepster) - (26) - Aug. 19, 2009, 01:05:39 PM EDT

That's not what Pelosi was talking about - (drook) - (25) - Aug. 19, 2009, 01:14:58 PM EDT

Oh I get it know - (boxley) - (2) - Aug. 19, 2009, 01:47:18 PM EDT

Discuss != ammend -NT - (drook) - Aug. 19, 2009, 01:58:03 PM EDT

Eh? - (Another Scott) - Aug. 19, 2009, 02:03:13 PM EDT

I don't care - (beepster) - (21) - Aug. 19, 2009, 02:41:45 PM EDT

What *is* your central point? - (drook) - (20) - Aug. 19, 2009, 03:11:15 PM EDT

Re: What *is* your central point? - (beepster) - (19) - Aug. 19, 2009, 04:29:56 PM EDT

Why not? - (drook) - (1) - Aug. 19, 2009, 04:52:04 PM EDT

Re: Why not? - (beepster) - Aug. 20, 2009, 10:44:21 AM EDT

Ok.... - (Another Scott) - (15) - Aug. 19, 2009, 05:48:48 PM EDT

30 years my ass - (boxley) - (4) - Aug. 19, 2009, 08:30:37 PM EDT

Ronnie took office in January 1981. HTH. -NT - (Another Scott) - (3) - Aug. 19, 2009, 08:34:13 PM EDT

with a democratic led house and senate - (boxley) - (2) - Aug. 19, 2009, 09:28:01 PM EDT

The sea changed when Ronnie came in. - (Another Scott) - (1) - Aug. 19, 2009, 09:46:16 PM EDT

So you are talking in a macro sense - (boxley) - Aug. 20, 2009, 08:32:12 AM EDT

On #2 - (beepster) - (9) - Aug. 20, 2009, 11:57:47 AM EDT

dont confuse the issue with facts -NT - (boxley) - (1) - Aug. 20, 2009, 12:04:29 PM EDT

Just think - (beepster) - Aug. 20, 2009, 12:47:26 PM EDT

So we don't have enough doctors? - (drook) - (5) - Aug. 20, 2009, 12:30:22 PM EDT

Sure offer free medical school for a term of public health - (boxley) - Aug. 20, 2009, 12:50:16 PM EDT

Excuse me, but - (beepster) - (3) - Aug. 20, 2009, 12:51:56 PM EDT

That's all well and good - (jake123) - Aug. 20, 2009, 01:05:27 PM EDT

Addressing != asking - (drook) - (1) - Aug. 20, 2009, 01:16:55 PM EDT

So instead - (beepster) - Aug. 20, 2009, 09:58:23 PM EDT

I'll play, for a while... - (Another Scott) - Aug. 20, 2009, 12:41:54 PM EDT

On "limiting malpractice". - (Another Scott) - Aug. 20, 2009, 09:46:46 AM EDT

Re: And what was the quote again? - (folkert) - Aug. 19, 2009, 01:10:24 PM EDT

He's answered the criticisms many times. - (Another Scott) - (18) - Aug. 19, 2009, 11:20:58 AM EDT

I'm still confused - (drook) - (16) - Aug. 19, 2009, 11:29:36 AM EDT

Me too. - (Another Scott) - (14) - Aug. 19, 2009, 11:46:06 AM EDT

You know what I think? - (jake123) - (1) - Aug. 19, 2009, 11:57:37 AM EDT

I think that won't happen. - (Another Scott) - Aug. 19, 2009, 12:14:40 PM EDT

Re: Me too. - (beepster) - (11) - Aug. 19, 2009, 12:33:08 PM EDT

People on the Hill say lots of things they don't believe. - (Another Scott) - (9) - Aug. 19, 2009, 02:00:28 PM EDT

That's pretty basic - (beepster) - (7) - Aug. 19, 2009, 02:51:37 PM EDT

I'm having a vision ... - (drook) - (4) - Aug. 19, 2009, 03:16:17 PM EDT

you expected something different? - (boxley) - Aug. 19, 2009, 04:13:09 PM EDT

Your point being? - (beepster) - (2) - Aug. 19, 2009, 04:15:17 PM EDT

naw, then he would have to admit - (boxley) - Aug. 19, 2009, 04:29:54 PM EDT

Republicans have mastered the Big Lie - (drook) - Aug. 19, 2009, 06:16:59 PM EDT

Why? - (Another Scott) - (1) - Aug. 19, 2009, 04:00:08 PM EDT

Re: Why? - (beepster) - Aug. 19, 2009, 04:31:21 PM EDT

More on pages... - (Another Scott) - Aug. 22, 2009, 12:30:58 AM EDT

Re: Me too. - (lincoln) - Aug. 19, 2009, 04:47:51 PM EDT

Sure its possible - (beepster) - Aug. 19, 2009, 12:24:56 PM EDT

I didn't know there was one I should be following - (beepster) - Aug. 19, 2009, 12:23:11 PM EDT

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