with a democratic led house and senate
which stayed that way except for 2000-2002. legislation is the business of the senate and congress, the executive carries out the legislation so bzzzt, try it again
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The sea changed when Ronnie came in.
It's not just the number of people on each side of the aisle.
When Ronnie won, the whole debate changed. He convinced the political establishment that cutting taxes, greatly expanding the military, "getting government out of the way", etc., etc. was the way to go. That mindset continued under Clinton, with only slight modification. It was only when W made a mess of Iraq, of New Orleans, of the budget, etc., and when the economy imploded and all that his party-mates could offer was more of the same, only then did enough of the conventional wisdom change for the foundation for a future not built on Reaganomics to get a toe-hold. Compare major legislation in the 95th Congress (1977-1978) - http://en.wikipedia....Major_legislation - with that from the 109th (2005-2006)- http://en.wikipedia....Major_legislation - to see how much has changed. E.g. Clean Water Act versus Terri Schiavo.... The ship of state turns slowly. But it's turning. Cheers, Scott. |
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So you are talking in a macro sense
where reagan took over from an economy in shambles, a foreign policy that was useless. Turned it around. Clinton tried to carry that forward and bush payed lip service to it then destroyed it. I will agree with that.
Lets see what this sea change brings. thanx, bill |
Arguments against, at their most basic
- (beepster)
- (54)
- Aug. 19, 2009, 10:39:30 AM EDT
Baum doesn't like Obama. Film at 11:00. ;-)
- (Another Scott)
- (53)
- Aug. 19, 2009, 10:52:42 AM EDT
Completely different discussions
- (beepster)
- (52)
- Aug. 19, 2009, 02:43:00 PM EDT
Where did "unpatriotic" come from?
- (drook)
- (32)
- Aug. 19, 2009, 11:15:56 AM EDT
Pelosi.
-NT
- (beepster)
- (31)
- Aug. 19, 2009, 12:17:01 PM EDT
And what was the quote again?
- (Another Scott)
- (30)
- Aug. 19, 2009, 12:22:17 PM EDT
Re: And what was the quote again?
- (beepster)
- (29)
- Aug. 19, 2009, 12:38:15 PM EDT
Now you're just stirring the pot ... you're not that stupid
- (drook)
- (27)
- Aug. 19, 2009, 12:49:17 PM EDT
If we want to focus
- (beepster)
- (26)
- Aug. 19, 2009, 01:05:39 PM EDT
That's not what Pelosi was talking about
- (drook)
- (25)
- Aug. 19, 2009, 01:14:58 PM EDT
Oh I get it know
- (boxley)
- (2)
- Aug. 19, 2009, 01:47:18 PM EDT
Discuss != ammend
-NT
- (drook)
- Aug. 19, 2009, 01:58:03 PM EDT
Eh?
- (Another Scott)
- Aug. 19, 2009, 02:03:13 PM EDT
I don't care
- (beepster)
- (21)
- Aug. 19, 2009, 02:41:45 PM EDT
What *is* your central point?
- (drook)
- (20)
- Aug. 19, 2009, 03:11:15 PM EDT
Re: What *is* your central point?
- (beepster)
- (19)
- Aug. 19, 2009, 04:29:56 PM EDT
Why not?
- (drook)
- (1)
- Aug. 19, 2009, 04:52:04 PM EDT
Re: Why not?
- (beepster)
- Aug. 20, 2009, 10:44:21 AM EDT
Ok....
- (Another Scott)
- (15)
- Aug. 19, 2009, 05:48:48 PM EDT
30 years my ass
- (boxley)
- (4)
- Aug. 19, 2009, 08:30:37 PM EDT
Ronnie took office in January 1981. HTH.
-NT
- (Another Scott)
- (3)
- Aug. 19, 2009, 08:34:13 PM EDT
with a democratic led house and senate
- (boxley)
- (2)
- Aug. 19, 2009, 09:28:01 PM EDT
The sea changed when Ronnie came in.
- (Another Scott)
- (1)
- Aug. 19, 2009, 09:46:16 PM EDT
So you are talking in a macro sense
- (boxley)
- Aug. 20, 2009, 08:32:12 AM EDT
On #2
- (beepster)
- (9)
- Aug. 20, 2009, 11:57:47 AM EDT
dont confuse the issue with facts
-NT
- (boxley)
- (1)
- Aug. 20, 2009, 12:04:29 PM EDT
Just think
- (beepster)
- Aug. 20, 2009, 12:47:26 PM EDT
So we don't have enough doctors?
- (drook)
- (5)
- Aug. 20, 2009, 12:30:22 PM EDT
Sure offer free medical school for a term of public health
- (boxley)
- Aug. 20, 2009, 12:50:16 PM EDT
Excuse me, but
- (beepster)
- (3)
- Aug. 20, 2009, 12:51:56 PM EDT
That's all well and good
- (jake123)
- Aug. 20, 2009, 01:05:27 PM EDT
Addressing != asking
- (drook)
- (1)
- Aug. 20, 2009, 01:16:55 PM EDT
So instead
- (beepster)
- Aug. 20, 2009, 09:58:23 PM EDT
I'll play, for a while...
- (Another Scott)
- Aug. 20, 2009, 12:41:54 PM EDT
On "limiting malpractice".
- (Another Scott)
- Aug. 20, 2009, 09:46:46 AM EDT
Re: And what was the quote again?
- (folkert)
- Aug. 19, 2009, 01:10:24 PM EDT
He's answered the criticisms many times.
- (Another Scott)
- (18)
- Aug. 19, 2009, 11:20:58 AM EDT
I'm still confused
- (drook)
- (16)
- Aug. 19, 2009, 11:29:36 AM EDT
Me too.
- (Another Scott)
- (14)
- Aug. 19, 2009, 11:46:06 AM EDT
You know what I think?
- (jake123)
- (1)
- Aug. 19, 2009, 11:57:37 AM EDT
I think that won't happen.
- (Another Scott)
- Aug. 19, 2009, 12:14:40 PM EDT
Re: Me too.
- (beepster)
- (11)
- Aug. 19, 2009, 12:33:08 PM EDT
People on the Hill say lots of things they don't believe.
- (Another Scott)
- (9)
- Aug. 19, 2009, 02:00:28 PM EDT
That's pretty basic
- (beepster)
- (7)
- Aug. 19, 2009, 02:51:37 PM EDT
I'm having a vision ...
- (drook)
- (4)
- Aug. 19, 2009, 03:16:17 PM EDT
you expected something different?
- (boxley)
- Aug. 19, 2009, 04:13:09 PM EDT
Your point being?
- (beepster)
- (2)
- Aug. 19, 2009, 04:15:17 PM EDT
naw, then he would have to admit
- (boxley)
- Aug. 19, 2009, 04:29:54 PM EDT
Republicans have mastered the Big Lie
- (drook)
- Aug. 19, 2009, 06:16:59 PM EDT
Why?
- (Another Scott)
- (1)
- Aug. 19, 2009, 04:00:08 PM EDT
Re: Why?
- (beepster)
- Aug. 19, 2009, 04:31:21 PM EDT
More on pages...
- (Another Scott)
- Aug. 22, 2009, 12:30:58 AM EDT
Re: Me too.
- (lincoln)
- Aug. 19, 2009, 04:47:51 PM EDT
Sure its possible
- (beepster)
- Aug. 19, 2009, 12:24:56 PM EDT
I didn't know there was one I should be following
- (beepster)
- Aug. 19, 2009, 12:23:11 PM EDT