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Post #312,785 by drook 8/19/09 3:16:17 PM Reply	I'm having a vision ... Someone convinces Obama to strong-arm the Democratic Senators to pass ... something. A few months later primary season starts. Republicans point to the 60/40 passage of the health care bill and say, "After all their talk of change and bipartisanship, Democrats rammed through a proposal without listening to what Real Americans™ had to say." Democrats lose three seats in the Senate. Yeah, you're right. Republicans have no power here. -- Drew
Post #312,787 by boxley 8/19/09 4:13:09 PM Reply	you expected something different? If not in power you are the power of no
Post #312,788 by beepster 8/19/09 4:15:17 PM Reply	Your point being? If this is so good and necessary(and well done), then the democrats should be hailed as "visionary leaders" and will win even more seats. I will choose a path that's clear. I will choose freewill.
Post #312,789 by boxley 8/19/09 4:29:54 PM Reply	naw, then he would have to admit that the huge democratic majority in this country isnt
Post #312,801 by drook 8/19/09 6:16:59 PM Reply	Republicans have mastered the Big Lie They will keep describing the evil intent, the poor execution, the failed initiatives of the Democrats, whether they exist or not. Since the beginning of this administration, they have been determined shoot down anything the Democrats want, no matter how popular it is. Then just keep lying about what it really was. And yes, the "death panel" bullshit is a perfect example. They supported the substance of it last year, now suddenly it's evidence of evil. -- Drew

Arguments against, at their most basic - (beepster) - (54) - Aug. 19, 2009, 10:39:30 AM EDT

Baum doesn't like Obama. Film at 11:00. ;-) - (Another Scott) - (53) - Aug. 19, 2009, 10:52:42 AM EDT

Completely different discussions - (beepster) - (52) - Aug. 19, 2009, 02:43:00 PM EDT

Where did "unpatriotic" come from? - (drook) - (32) - Aug. 19, 2009, 11:15:56 AM EDT

Pelosi. -NT - (beepster) - (31) - Aug. 19, 2009, 12:17:01 PM EDT

And what was the quote again? - (Another Scott) - (30) - Aug. 19, 2009, 12:22:17 PM EDT

Re: And what was the quote again? - (beepster) - (29) - Aug. 19, 2009, 12:38:15 PM EDT

Now you're just stirring the pot ... you're not that stupid - (drook) - (27) - Aug. 19, 2009, 12:49:17 PM EDT

If we want to focus - (beepster) - (26) - Aug. 19, 2009, 01:05:39 PM EDT

That's not what Pelosi was talking about - (drook) - (25) - Aug. 19, 2009, 01:14:58 PM EDT

Oh I get it know - (boxley) - (2) - Aug. 19, 2009, 01:47:18 PM EDT

Discuss != ammend -NT - (drook) - Aug. 19, 2009, 01:58:03 PM EDT

Eh? - (Another Scott) - Aug. 19, 2009, 02:03:13 PM EDT

I don't care - (beepster) - (21) - Aug. 19, 2009, 02:41:45 PM EDT

What *is* your central point? - (drook) - (20) - Aug. 19, 2009, 03:11:15 PM EDT

Re: What *is* your central point? - (beepster) - (19) - Aug. 19, 2009, 04:29:56 PM EDT

Why not? - (drook) - (1) - Aug. 19, 2009, 04:52:04 PM EDT

Re: Why not? - (beepster) - Aug. 20, 2009, 10:44:21 AM EDT

Ok.... - (Another Scott) - (15) - Aug. 19, 2009, 05:48:48 PM EDT

30 years my ass - (boxley) - (4) - Aug. 19, 2009, 08:30:37 PM EDT

Ronnie took office in January 1981. HTH. -NT - (Another Scott) - (3) - Aug. 19, 2009, 08:34:13 PM EDT

with a democratic led house and senate - (boxley) - (2) - Aug. 19, 2009, 09:28:01 PM EDT

The sea changed when Ronnie came in. - (Another Scott) - (1) - Aug. 19, 2009, 09:46:16 PM EDT

So you are talking in a macro sense - (boxley) - Aug. 20, 2009, 08:32:12 AM EDT

On #2 - (beepster) - (9) - Aug. 20, 2009, 11:57:47 AM EDT

dont confuse the issue with facts -NT - (boxley) - (1) - Aug. 20, 2009, 12:04:29 PM EDT

Just think - (beepster) - Aug. 20, 2009, 12:47:26 PM EDT

So we don't have enough doctors? - (drook) - (5) - Aug. 20, 2009, 12:30:22 PM EDT

Sure offer free medical school for a term of public health - (boxley) - Aug. 20, 2009, 12:50:16 PM EDT

Excuse me, but - (beepster) - (3) - Aug. 20, 2009, 12:51:56 PM EDT

That's all well and good - (jake123) - Aug. 20, 2009, 01:05:27 PM EDT

Addressing != asking - (drook) - (1) - Aug. 20, 2009, 01:16:55 PM EDT

So instead - (beepster) - Aug. 20, 2009, 09:58:23 PM EDT

I'll play, for a while... - (Another Scott) - Aug. 20, 2009, 12:41:54 PM EDT

On "limiting malpractice". - (Another Scott) - Aug. 20, 2009, 09:46:46 AM EDT

Re: And what was the quote again? - (folkert) - Aug. 19, 2009, 01:10:24 PM EDT

He's answered the criticisms many times. - (Another Scott) - (18) - Aug. 19, 2009, 11:20:58 AM EDT

I'm still confused - (drook) - (16) - Aug. 19, 2009, 11:29:36 AM EDT

Me too. - (Another Scott) - (14) - Aug. 19, 2009, 11:46:06 AM EDT

You know what I think? - (jake123) - (1) - Aug. 19, 2009, 11:57:37 AM EDT

I think that won't happen. - (Another Scott) - Aug. 19, 2009, 12:14:40 PM EDT

Re: Me too. - (beepster) - (11) - Aug. 19, 2009, 12:33:08 PM EDT

People on the Hill say lots of things they don't believe. - (Another Scott) - (9) - Aug. 19, 2009, 02:00:28 PM EDT

That's pretty basic - (beepster) - (7) - Aug. 19, 2009, 02:51:37 PM EDT

I'm having a vision ... - (drook) - (4) - Aug. 19, 2009, 03:16:17 PM EDT

you expected something different? - (boxley) - Aug. 19, 2009, 04:13:09 PM EDT

Your point being? - (beepster) - (2) - Aug. 19, 2009, 04:15:17 PM EDT

naw, then he would have to admit - (boxley) - Aug. 19, 2009, 04:29:54 PM EDT

Republicans have mastered the Big Lie - (drook) - Aug. 19, 2009, 06:16:59 PM EDT

Why? - (Another Scott) - (1) - Aug. 19, 2009, 04:00:08 PM EDT

Re: Why? - (beepster) - Aug. 19, 2009, 04:31:21 PM EDT

More on pages... - (Another Scott) - Aug. 22, 2009, 12:30:58 AM EDT

Re: Me too. - (lincoln) - Aug. 19, 2009, 04:47:51 PM EDT

Sure its possible - (beepster) - Aug. 19, 2009, 12:24:56 PM EDT

I didn't know there was one I should be following - (beepster) - Aug. 19, 2009, 12:23:11 PM EDT

No, m'lord.
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