Post #290,680
8/12/07 12:47:02 AM
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Re: Wait a minute
So what you're saying is if it hasnt been discovered or explained already it doesnt exist?!? No. Listen, imagination is more important than knowledge. Einstein said so himself. It takes you to the leading edge of thought. Speculation and wonder is what drives us to discovery. Indeed. But Einstein worked out a lot of really hard and detailed mathematics to make his stuff go. The actual business of discovery involves a lot of hard work and rigorous, unglamorous science. Logic only takes you so far. Matter of fact, it usually only takes you to where you've already been. Actually, logic is what gave us all the scientific advances of the 20th century. Your moral assessment of the contribution of The Internet and The Telly to society aside, they were invented and implemented by scientists. Logic put a man on the moon, not someone examining their chakras and checking that their feng shite was in alignment. Who wants to stay stuck? Imagination can take you anywhere. So can LSD.
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Post #290,683
8/12/07 12:51:46 AM
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But the impetus behind all these things was illogical.
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Post #290,684
8/12/07 1:02:16 AM
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So what?
I don't particularly care why Crick and Watson did what they did - it could have been pride, a feeling of duty, idle curiosity or even an entry requirement of the local Badger Baiting and Bear Tossing Society.
Similarly, the frame of mind of Newton as he put the finishing touches to Principia Mathematica isn't at all relevant to its content. He may well have considered himself to be a large, unfeathered chicken at the time.
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Post #290,685
8/12/07 1:07:28 AM
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So what? With just logic you get nowhere.
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Post #290,687
8/12/07 1:39:27 AM
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Demonstrably wrong.
*points at Voyager*
In terms of "getting somewhere", it's done pretty well...
Logically designed and scientifically tested and built. And guess what? It worked.
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Post #290,688
8/12/07 2:14:42 AM
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You're pointing to the how - not the why.
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Post #290,691
8/12/07 2:59:39 AM
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Indeed I am.
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Post #290,692
8/12/07 3:27:10 AM
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Hows can be exicuted with complete logic . . .
. . but without a why there will not be a how at all. Whys are rather seldom based on logic, and the why behind Voyager certainly isn't.
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Post #290,693
8/12/07 3:28:14 AM
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I never argued otherwise.
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Post #290,694
8/12/07 4:06:04 AM
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And carefully kept your argument shallow . . .
. . to avoid running into the inevitable contradiction.
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Post #290,695
8/12/07 4:34:27 AM
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What contradiction?
Or are you about to unveil some revelation that will show us all that crystal healing et al isn't a giant pile of bollocks?
Peter
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Post #290,713
8/12/07 12:51:04 PM
8/12/07 3:27:05 PM
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You know-
Most of my academic career involved studying the sciences- physics, chemistry, and just about every branch of biology out there. I GET science. I LOVE science.
Each and every scientific advancement started with someone wondering "What if?"
That is the power of imagination.
So stop being trying to twist what I'm saying to fit your argument.
Edited by Lily
Aug. 12, 2007, 03:27:05 PM EDT
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