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Post #290,684 by pwhysall 8/12/07 1:02:16 AM Reply	So what? I don't particularly care why Crick and Watson did what they did - it could have been pride, a feeling of duty, idle curiosity or even an entry requirement of the local Badger Baiting and Bear Tossing Society. Similarly, the frame of mind of Newton as he put the finishing touches to Principia Mathematica isn't at all relevant to its content. He may well have considered himself to be a large, unfeathered chicken at the time. Peter [link\|http://www.no2id.net/\|Don't Let The Terrorists Win] [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal] [link\|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org\|Home] Use P2P for legitimate purposes! [link\|http://kevan.org/brain.cgi?pwhysall\|A better terminal emulator] [image\|http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h262/pwhysall/Misc/saveus.png\|0\|Darwinia\|\|]
Post #290,685 by Andrew Grygus 8/12/07 1:07:28 AM Reply	So what? With just logic you get nowhere. [link\|http://www.aaxnet.com\|AAx]
Post #290,687 by pwhysall 8/12/07 1:39:27 AM Reply	Demonstrably wrong. points at Voyager In terms of "getting somewhere", it's done pretty well... Logically designed and scientifically tested and built. And guess what? It worked. Peter [link\|http://www.no2id.net/\|Don't Let The Terrorists Win] [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal] [link\|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org\|Home] Use P2P for legitimate purposes! [link\|http://kevan.org/brain.cgi?pwhysall\|A better terminal emulator] [image\|http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h262/pwhysall/Misc/saveus.png\|0\|Darwinia\|\|]
Post #290,688 by Andrew Grygus 8/12/07 2:14:42 AM Reply	You're pointing to the how - not the why. [link\|http://www.aaxnet.com\|AAx]
Post #290,691 by pwhysall 8/12/07 2:59:39 AM Reply	Indeed I am. Peter [link\|http://www.no2id.net/\|Don't Let The Terrorists Win] [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal] [link\|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org\|Home] Use P2P for legitimate purposes! [link\|http://kevan.org/brain.cgi?pwhysall\|A better terminal emulator] [image\|http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h262/pwhysall/Misc/saveus.png\|0\|Darwinia\|\|]
Post #290,692 by Andrew Grygus 8/12/07 3:27:10 AM Reply	Hows can be exicuted with complete logic . . . . . but without a why there will not be a how at all. Whys are rather seldom based on logic, and the why behind Voyager certainly isn't. [link\|http://www.aaxnet.com\|AAx]
Post #290,693 by pwhysall 8/12/07 3:28:14 AM Reply	I never argued otherwise. Peter [link\|http://www.no2id.net/\|Don't Let The Terrorists Win] [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal] [link\|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org\|Home] Use P2P for legitimate purposes! [link\|http://kevan.org/brain.cgi?pwhysall\|A better terminal emulator] [image\|http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h262/pwhysall/Misc/saveus.png\|0\|Darwinia\|\|]
Post #290,694 by Andrew Grygus 8/12/07 4:06:04 AM Reply	And carefully kept your argument shallow . . . . . to avoid running into the inevitable contradiction. [link\|http://www.aaxnet.com\|AAx]
Post #290,695 by pwhysall 8/12/07 4:34:27 AM Reply	What contradiction? Or are you about to unveil some revelation that will show us all that crystal healing et al isn't a giant pile of bollocks? Peter [link\|http://www.no2id.net/\|Don't Let The Terrorists Win] [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal] [link\|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org\|Home] Use P2P for legitimate purposes! [link\|http://kevan.org/brain.cgi?pwhysall\|A better terminal emulator] [image\|http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h262/pwhysall/Misc/saveus.png\|0\|Darwinia\|\|]

Two words: Bad plastic - (Ashton) - (45) - Aug. 2, 2007, 08:59:12 PM EDT

That was a hell of a leap - (crazy) - (44) - Aug. 3, 2007, 07:21:28 PM EDT

I noticed that too. - (Andrew Grygus) - (43) - Aug. 3, 2007, 08:01:49 PM EDT

If an inverse relationship is already established - - (Ashton) - (42) - Aug. 4, 2007, 06:37:34 AM EDT

Why should it? Would you expect it to mention Voodoo? - (CRConrad) - (41) - Aug. 7, 2007, 08:51:52 AM EDT

Here, have some red meat - - (Ashton) - (40) - Aug. 9, 2007, 05:27:14 AM EDT

Recommended Reading - (pwhysall) - (39) - Aug. 9, 2007, 07:05:07 AM EDT

why are you forced to vaccinate yer kids then? - (boxley) - (3) - Aug. 9, 2007, 12:22:45 PM EDT

Completely different, Bill. - (pwhysall) - (2) - Aug. 9, 2007, 01:35:47 PM EDT

gwan ya think? By the by chicken blood by a voodoo priestess - (boxley) - (1) - Aug. 10, 2007, 09:12:23 PM EDT

Your scepticism is refreshing - (pwhysall) - Aug. 11, 2007, 02:09:54 AM EDT

I have a response prepared - (Lily) - (34) - Aug. 10, 2007, 08:21:29 PM EDT

I can save you time! - (pwhysall) - (26) - Aug. 11, 2007, 02:09:10 AM EDT

Oohh___I Loves didactic Certainty.. - (Ashton) - (25) - Aug. 11, 2007, 06:16:38 AM EDT

he is a brit who drives a beemer - (boxley) - (1) - Aug. 11, 2007, 09:07:50 AM EDT

What's your point? - (pwhysall) - Aug. 11, 2007, 10:23:08 AM EDT

Whatever. - (pwhysall) - (22) - Aug. 11, 2007, 10:25:53 AM EDT

Wait a minute - (Lily) - (21) - Aug. 11, 2007, 08:06:48 PM EDT

Leading edges and off the edge - (rcareaga) - (8) - Aug. 11, 2007, 09:24:45 PM EDT

'to the extent we desire Nature to yield reliable results' - (Andrew Grygus) - (5) - Aug. 11, 2007, 09:42:17 PM EDT

WHAT??? - (rcareaga) - (4) - Aug. 11, 2007, 09:52:57 PM EDT

You go to whoever's appropriate to your problem. - (Andrew Grygus) - (3) - Aug. 11, 2007, 10:08:36 PM EDT

OK, sure - (rcareaga) - (2) - Aug. 11, 2007, 10:20:24 PM EDT

Well, say you had some emotional issues or. . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (1) - Aug. 11, 2007, 11:16:09 PM EDT

As to Astrologers, Homeo - swan song, for here (new thread) - (Ashton) - Aug. 12, 2007, 07:49:16 AM EDT

Western medicine. (new thread) - (Lily) - Aug. 12, 2007, 12:41:37 PM EDT

Blood thirsty HMOs (new thread) - (Lily) - Aug. 12, 2007, 01:10:54 PM EDT

Re: Wait a minute - (pwhysall) - (11) - Aug. 12, 2007, 12:47:02 AM EDT

But the impetus behind all these things was illogical. -NT - (Andrew Grygus) - (9) - Aug. 12, 2007, 12:51:46 AM EDT

So what? - (pwhysall) - (8) - Aug. 12, 2007, 01:02:16 AM EDT

So what? With just logic you get nowhere. -NT - (Andrew Grygus) - (7) - Aug. 12, 2007, 01:07:28 AM EDT

Demonstrably wrong. - (pwhysall) - (6) - Aug. 12, 2007, 01:39:27 AM EDT

You're pointing to the how - not the why. -NT - (Andrew Grygus) - (5) - Aug. 12, 2007, 02:14:42 AM EDT

Indeed I am. -NT - (pwhysall) - (4) - Aug. 12, 2007, 02:59:39 AM EDT

Hows can be exicuted with complete logic . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (3) - Aug. 12, 2007, 03:27:10 AM EDT

I never argued otherwise. -NT - (pwhysall) - (2) - Aug. 12, 2007, 03:28:14 AM EDT

And carefully kept your argument shallow . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (1) - Aug. 12, 2007, 04:06:04 AM EDT

What contradiction? - (pwhysall) - Aug. 12, 2007, 04:34:27 AM EDT

You know- - (Lily) - Aug. 12, 2007, 03:27:05 PM EDT

Crystals aren't mysterous. - (Another Scott) - (4) - Aug. 11, 2007, 10:54:14 AM EDT

Crystals have their secrets too. - (Andrew Grygus) - (3) - Aug. 11, 2007, 12:09:27 PM EDT

Link? - (pwhysall) - (2) - Aug. 11, 2007, 01:40:02 PM EDT

Re: Link? - (Andrew Grygus) - (1) - Aug. 11, 2007, 02:12:21 PM EDT

A related history is here. - (Another Scott) - Aug. 11, 2007, 07:29:11 PM EDT

Tao of Physics? - (warmachine) - (1) - Aug. 11, 2007, 02:39:14 PM EDT

Re: Tao of Physics? - (Lily) - Aug. 11, 2007, 07:57:42 PM EDT

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