Post #210,502
6/8/05 3:14:33 PM
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So I guess...
... I should insist that Southerners stop speaking with an accent when I'm talking to them, since obviously they're just trying not to communicate with me? After all, "y'all" isn't *my* normal usage, therefore they should accomodate me as their audience. How terribly provincial of you.
1) I guessed offside meaning passenger side as I read it. As it turns out, I was correct.
- but -
2) Who gives a rat's ass, other than the pathologically anal folk out there?
The true moral is that when speaking with Americans, you would expect to occasionally get questions as to your terminology. Not lectures about making sure you choose your colloquialisms for someone else.
The only question remaining is how do we measure the collective pole-up-the-ass you and Christian are sharing on this one... meters or yards?
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Post #210,504
6/8/05 3:16:47 PM
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Post #210,509
6/8/05 3:29:43 PM
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no.
It is clearly one rod, pole or perch[link|http://home.clara.net/brianp/lengths.html|.]
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Post #210,506
6/8/05 3:23:04 PM
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You're risking a barrage of Norse longboat vituperation. ;)
Hey, it's sort of interesting. What else are we going to talk about today, eh?
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Post #210,508
6/8/05 3:28:23 PM
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Keeps the LRPDs coming, dunnit?
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Post #210,511
6/8/05 3:38:51 PM
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thats knot a good measurement
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Post #210,526
6/8/05 5:17:34 PM
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Um, actually, I think that your guess was backwards
At least if I understood the dictionary definition right. When I park, the passenger is on the side with the curb, so that's nearside. The offside is the one that the driver is on. (Peter will correct me if I have that backwards, which event I presently give perhaps 30% odds of.)
As for who cares, perhaps nobody but it doesn't really matter to me. I'm not telling Peter what to do, I'm just giving him a data point on who will and will not understand those terms. He can do anything that he wants with that data point. A few of the options include taking it into consideration in the future, intentionally confusing people next time, using it to mock visiting tourists, or forget about it.
Do you have me confused with CRConrad?
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Post #210,527
6/8/05 5:25:42 PM
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I had it backwards, actually.
Nearside is passenger-side, which is the left-hand-side of the vehicle. So your nearside is my offside. Or something.
It's still very widely used over here, and not just in speech; you can go to any of a squillion car parts websites and buy offside doors and panels, and nearside arches and sideskirts.
Peter
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Post #210,531
6/8/05 5:51:31 PM
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what no fenders or wheel wells hood or trunk?
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Post #210,533
6/8/05 5:57:10 PM
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Confused? No.
Very similar, yes. Except that sometimes CRC is joking.
And as Peter mentioned, he told me which was which incorrectly before I posted.
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Post #210,539
6/8/05 6:28:51 PM
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Kind of invalidates your parallel, doesn't it though?
I mean, even if "y'all" isn't your own usage, it's eminently understandable, being an obvious contraction of "you" and "all".
So, do you *still* think that I (and Ben) "have a rod up my (our) backside(s)" for thinking Peter's terminology is less than perfectly effective in communication... When even *he* can't get it right?
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Post #210,540
6/8/05 6:30:11 PM
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It's called "hyperbole". HTH!
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Post #210,586
6/9/05 3:35:09 AM
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OK, that's another word for it. Thanks!
Thanks for admitting that objections to my point work only as hyperbole, not to be taken seriously.
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Post #210,601
6/9/05 8:15:55 AM
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Whatever gets you through the day.
True examples are hard to find, obviously, because by definition I don't know the words I won't know. I've run across it in the past, however, with regional differences in the US.
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Post #210,608
6/9/05 9:37:02 AM
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I think you're forgetting the most salient detail here...
AdminiScott writes: True examples are hard to find, obviously, because by definition I don't know the words I won't know. Sure, *you* don't know yet what words that you don't know you'll come across in the future. But this ("offside", that is -- not "y'all") was aparently not just an example of *you, the recipient*, not getting it right. I've run across it in the past, however, with regional differences in the US. What -- you've really come across cases where someone uses regional-dialect expressions that even *they, the speaker*, don't get right, often enough for it to be worth mentioning here? And, to get back to the point: If you really have encountered *that*, are you seriously claiming that you *didn't* think that was "excessive" use of regional dialect (in the sense of hindering communication with out-of-regionals like you)? I find it hard to believe that you really think the onus was on you to understand something that even the person who was saying it didn't understand. Is that really how you feel?
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Post #210,614
6/9/05 10:05:27 AM
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Ha, nice try.
You were bitching about this looooong before Peter realized he wasn't saying it correctly.
Thanks for playing, drive through.
Regards,
-scott anderson
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Post #210,659
6/9/05 2:55:56 PM
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Not even a "nice try" from you, though.
Too obvious a try at obfuscating the whole point of _this sub-sub-thread_: That your contention that it wasn't confusing was *wrong*, and that the fact that this was due to Peter himself getting it wrong rather proves my point, not yours.
And I could hardly have been "bitching" about *that* before you started the SST, which is so bleeding obvious that it makes your try not-even-nice.
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Your lies are of Microsoftian Scale and boring to boot. Your 'depression' may be the closest you ever come to recognizing truth: you have no 'inferiority complex', you are inferior - and something inside you recognizes this. - [link|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=71575|Ashton Brown]
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Post #210,673
6/9/05 4:14:30 PM
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Sorry, not my conversation, yours.
Regards,
-scott anderson
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Post #210,757
6/10/05 2:38:21 AM
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Ha ha, very funny. But, hey, if you're granting...
...me "ownership" of the whole conversation, then your behaviour above only becomes all the more egregious: In the future, don't be such an arsehole as to try to retroactively redefine what it's been about, mmkay? That sucks bad enough even if you're an equal "part-owner" of a conversation.
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(I live in Finland, and my e-mail in-box is at the Saunalahti company.)
Your lies are of Microsoftian Scale and boring to boot. Your 'depression' may be the closest you ever come to recognizing truth: you have no 'inferiority complex', you are inferior - and something inside you recognizes this. - [link|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=71575|Ashton Brown]
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Post #210,781
6/10/05 8:20:31 AM
6/10/05 8:22:40 AM
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No, you mistake my meaning.
The supposed "sub-sub-thread" about "That your contention that it wasn't confusing" is your conversation, not mine. In other words, I'm not involved in your "Peter was wrong himself, therefore I was right" construct, which was invented far after the fact to justify your *original* post -- regardless of your attempt to hijack my meaning.
And now I'm done with this completely, now that you've finished your descent into casuistry.
HTH!
Regards,
-scott anderson
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June 10, 2005, 08:22:40 AM EDT
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