Post #200,065
3/23/05 8:13:09 AM
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Right, like the $300,000 he took.
GMAFB. She wasn't dead when he left her. She will be shortly.
And I'll bet he constantly harped on her about being fat, too.
bcnu, Mikem
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Post #200,070
3/23/05 8:22:48 AM
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well she was a puker, finally getting her wish
all those years he visited, laughing and gloating at her, poking her with stick, yeah, thats the ticket that will get this overturned. Whatever it takes to attack someone whose actions you dont like. Politics of personaldestruction eh what? thanx, bill
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Post #200,075
3/23/05 8:30:41 AM
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Don't need to make stuff up.
He knocked up one woman (twice!) while married to another. Call me a puritan, but that's just plain old wrong. And much as many here would like it to be, permanent vegetative state and dead are not the same thing.
bcnu, Mikem
Eine Leute. Eine Welt. Ein F\ufffdhrer. God Bless America.
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Post #200,077
3/23/05 8:33:25 AM
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The body isn't dead
The person is.
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Post #200,088
3/23/05 9:18:55 AM
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A long time ago, ...
I was an orderly at a hospital in rural NC. We had a 37 year old male patient come in with a massive stroke. He was unresponsive, but breathing. This was back before HMO's, so he stayed on at the hospital for roughly a year. The whole time, unresponsive. He was breathing, but he was a turn every two hours, feeding tube, etc. patient. His wife visited frequently. Then, iirc almost a year after his admission she came in and sat with him for about 30 minutes. She left crying. After she left, the patient rose up in his bed briefly and then moaned horribly. Later I found out that his wife came to tell him she'd met some one else. We were encouraged by his movement because this is the first time any of us had seen him move and I'd been shaving him every day for almost a year. (Most of the time his pupils didn't respond to light stimulus). He eventually got to the point where he could move his head and shoulders as well as swallow, so we could feed him with a spoon. He was discharged to a nursing home. I still remember this guy 25 years later. I know his name and I'll never forget his reaction after his wife left.
I, like the rest of the medical staff, would have bet the ranch that he would never make any sort of recovery - the damage to his brain was extensive because of the stroke. But he recovered enough to respond to people, eat and he did regain some movement. It wasn't much of a life, but he was still alive.
bcnu, Mikem
Eine Leute. Eine Welt. Ein F\ufffdhrer. God Bless America.
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Post #200,093
3/23/05 9:32:21 AM
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There's a slight difference
Your patient "recovered enough to respond to people, eat and he did regain some movement". From what I've read, Terry won't.
I agree with you. I believe that letting her starve is wrong. But there should be some alternative. If her parents wish to keep her alive with feeding, they should be granted that permission.
I also agree with your assessment of her husband. Since he "gave up custody" to the courts, he should have divorced her, especially if he decided to establish a relationship with another woman.
There's no easy answer. I disagree with both extremes... save her at any cost and let her starve. I also think that Congress & Bush made a mistake in passing a bill specifically for one individual.
A good friend will come and bail you out of jail ... but, a true friend will be sitting next to you saying, "Damn...that was fun!"
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Post #200,108
3/23/05 10:27:38 AM
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I don't think we disagree at all.
bcnu, Mikem
Eine Leute. Eine Welt. Ein F\ufffdhrer. God Bless America.
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Post #200,101
3/23/05 9:57:09 AM
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Another Christian view
From the StarTribune.
[link|http://www.startribune.com/stories/1519/5307756.html|God is merciful enough to offer life beyond feeding tubes]
A good friend will come and bail you out of jail ... but, a true friend will be sitting next to you saying, "Damn...that was fun!"
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Post #200,140
3/23/05 2:00:16 PM
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Year? Because she died in 1990. (new thread)
Created as new thread #200139 titled [link|/forums/render/content/show?contentid=200139|Year? Because she died in 1990.]
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