Re: Well, I think it's pretty clear.

Post #8,842 by addison 9/13/01 9:56:29 AM Reply	Re: Well, I think it's pretty clear. Why bother with UN in the first place? Why bother with ELECTION/DEMOCRACY? What the hell is all those HUMAN RIGHTS when you're NOT willing to listen to DIFFERING opinion?! Who started the UN? Human rights? Considering you're claiming that the US is wrong for stopping mass genocide (Yugoslavia, Iraq), that's laughable. Democracy? Where are you from? I want to know if your country is democratic - AND if it helps other people. Who gave US the right to ignore the rest of the world's opinion? Its nuke? Its MILITARY might? Know what a bully is? Again - the US is standing in to protect the weak in these cases you're complaining about. The real question might be "Why isn't anybody else with us?" (And there are others). I don't see you folks crying for nukes on US when Timothy McVeigh bomb the fed building, or did I miss something? He's not fanatical? Not a terrorist? No thousands of DEFENSELESS innocents killed, INTENTIONALLY? Had McVeigh been a part of a much bigger body, where arrest was infeasible, I think you might have seen something else. Had he been financed by another country, you'd have seen something else. And McVeigh is dead. Killed with all the due process you can want. Of course, most of these countries you're defending - Yugoslavia, Iraq, the Middle East - HAVE NO DUE PROCESS. Well, there is one on paper. But nothing in reality. And reality is something I think you're very divorced from. Again, where are you from, and how much money did they get from the US last year? Addison
Post #8,852 by TTC 9/13/01 10:19:45 AM Reply	Re: Well, I think it's pretty clear. > Democracy? Where are you from? I want to know if your country is democratic - AND if it helps other people. > Singapore. Democracy, AFAIK, yes. Help, not much, but we try. > The real question might be "Why isn't anybody else with us?" (And there are others). That's exactly the question you have to ask. > Of course, most of these countries you're defending - Yugoslavia, Iraq, the Middle East - HAVE NO DUE PROCESS. Well, there is one on paper. But nothing in reality. Defending, I'm not. Again, I'm pointing out the obvious. You can choose to believe that everything that the US has done in Iraq and Yugoslavia is exactly that, protecting innocent civilians, preventing genocide. Many don't share that view. Many, especially those who are "involved" (much the same way as the victims' family are involved in the attack on America) view it as US terrorizing them. > Again, where are you from, and how much money did they get from the US last year? Singapore, the place where American Michael Fay was sentenced and had his sentence reduced due to political pressure from the US. But of course, we are the barbaric country for having canning and still have death sentences for murderers and drug traffickers. As to how much money, I am not sure, but US is definitely our largest export nation.
Post #8,855 by addison 9/13/01 10:26:49 AM Reply	Re: Well, I think it's pretty clear. The real question might be "Why isn't anybody else with us?" (And there are others). That's exactly the question you have to ask. It is. And usually the answer is because other countries don't want to get involved with the genocides. Like in Yugoslavia - where untold thousands of people were raped, tortured, slaughtered. And where was anybody? Like in Iraq, where the Kurds were being attacked - with chemical weaponry. Or is it OK for other countries to do that? We should vote in the UN and tell them to stop? Addison

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