Thanks for a cant-free report. Circle-jerk present.

Post #83,858 by Ashton 2/24/03 7:04:39 PM Reply	Thanks for a cant-free report. Circle-jerk present. It does support the rationale for 'remedying' Iraq's non-compliance in the ways noted. But a circle jerk ensues: It is The United Nations' ox which has been gored. The Dubya cabal has had Iraq in its sights since Daddy made a bad call, in 20/20 hindsight (this allegation is of the sort.. the usual never-to-be proven-in a Court of Law kind). Additionally, various and unsatisfying allegations attempting to connect Saddam with Al-Q have been floated, along with other allegations, with the net result of this Admin attempting to portray Iraq as ~ The Next Best Target in (our self-defined set of) Evil States / the Domino theory of Vietnam redux. Ergo: IF the UN cannot be coerced, cajoled, convinced! to support this planned invasion and the US goes ahead anyway: We shall be as guilty of 'noncompliance with the law' as is Iraq demonstrated to be. (Of course we can always say - as Dubya has effectively 'said': So What? OUR* Decision is that Iraq Makes Us Feel UnSafe. And this is enough to justify our doing Anything, anyWhere anyTime.*) Take yer pick; WHICH "UN Rulez" you wanna go by today.. Phony 'votes of Congress to abrogate Its Own Constitutional authority' == Responsibility, notwithstanding. Ditto on previous UN Resolutions defining what "breach of sanctions" might mean. IF THE UN won't agree and support this invasion Today? See above. Ashton
Post #83,861 by Brandioch 2/24/03 7:31:23 PM Reply	See the Halliburton thread. [link\|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=83744\|Here] Oh my. It seems to be this very same thread. Because Iraq did not comply to the the LETTER of the resolutions, we are allowed to kill Iraqi children. Nay! We MUST kill Iraqi children. Now, Halliburton followed the LETTER of the law and managed to turn a profit helping evil Saddam but that is okay, because it they found a loophole in the law. If Iraq is WRONG for NOT following the LETTER of the UN resolutions -THEN- The US is WRONG for NOT following the LETTER of the UN resolutions. We are preparing to break the law and kill innocent children to "get" Saddam because he broke the law. But Saddam's "breaking" of the law did NOT result in anyone in any other country being killed. The USofA's "breaking" of the law will.
Post #83,871 by dmarker 2/24/03 8:12:26 PM 2/25/03 2:05:18 AM Reply	Yup Ash - good call - could see where this thread was head Feel sorry for Silverlock - it is hard to get a good grip on interaction where the other person distorts the points to the extent that occured here Am wondering how long it will tak Silverlock to conclude that there is nothing one can learn other than coping with irritation & annoyance from interacting with BP on topics related to politics. The perceptions & thinking mips just aren't there for BP. Twisting & distorting what others say seems to be BPs standard tactic in difficult matters. That gets to be downright annoying after a short while. Anyway, lets observe the next such match - perhaps we can create a score table. <grin> Doug M Edited by dmarker Feb. 25, 2003, 02:05:18 AM EST Expand All History
Post #83,951 by bepatient 2/25/03 2:32:25 AM Reply	Sad. Yes you. Sad. You see. I retracted here. We may still disagree...but it maintained at least a note of ci Why? Because Silver acted like an adult. Something you and your new buddy can't seem to do. You feel more inclined to play these games. Can't enter this conversation. Because you know I am correct. As far as the main discussion, I am absolutely correct. Its ok. You don't have to admit it. I know it would be painful. You can invent motive, talk about spirit, dance around all you like...but the initial statement re: the legality was >false<. So instead you feel content to play this little infantile game. Just as well. Cry me a river. You were born...and so you're free...so Happy Birthday! _{Laurie Anderson} [link\|mailto:bepatient@aol.com\|BePatient]

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