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by folkert

2/4/09 11:57:38 PM

and... *AND*

2 of the Big 3 that got a "bailout" are ramping up legal fights to shoot down those fuel economy standards... with our own damn money we just gave them!

I call WTF!?

gore is in DC again - (boxley) - (79) - Jan. 27, 2009, 12:57:06 PM EST

Re: gore is in DC again - (beepster) - (78) - Jan. 27, 2009, 05:23:01 PM EST

Nah! Other states would parrot California. - (a6l6e6x) - Jan. 27, 2009, 05:35:04 PM EST

disagree california is the 8th largest economy in the world - (boxley) - Jan. 27, 2009, 07:57:41 PM EST

you can't really believe this - (rcareaga) - (75) - Jan. 27, 2009, 08:43:26 PM EST

What's not to believe - (beepster) - (74) - Jan. 27, 2009, 09:38:52 PM EST

You apparently don't understand the law in this case. - (Another Scott) - (70) - Jan. 27, 2009, 09:55:53 PM EST

I understand. - (beepster) - (69) - Jan. 27, 2009, 10:19:00 PM EST

If wishes were horses... - (Another Scott) - (61) - Jan. 27, 2009, 11:05:26 PM EST

Settled law is only settled until its changed. - (beepster) - (60) - Jan. 27, 2009, 11:38:46 PM EST

So everything not prohibited should be required? -NT - (drook) - (59) - Jan. 27, 2009, 11:59:21 PM EST

? - (beepster) - (58) - Jan. 28, 2009, 12:00:34 AM EST

Don't know what point you were trying to make - (drook) - (57) - Jan. 28, 2009, 12:32:04 AM EST

Lead - (beepster) - (5) - Jan. 28, 2009, 01:05:17 AM EST

Now: two standards; future: two standards - no fragmentation -NT - (drook) - (4) - Jan. 28, 2009, 01:13:29 AM EST

Not how it works - (beepster) - (3) - Jan. 28, 2009, 01:57:39 AM EST

"Similar Legislation" != "Similar Standards" - (Another Scott) - (2) - Jan. 28, 2009, 07:13:29 AM EST

Of course I am -NT - (beepster) - (1) - Jan. 28, 2009, 07:38:42 AM EST

The obdurate path is never an easy one.. -NT - (Ashton) - Jan. 28, 2009, 04:56:34 PM EST

Les'see - where does BeeP usually stand on "State's Rights"? - (CRConrad) - (50) - Feb. 4, 2009, 11:30:49 AM EST

National versus State versus Local - (beepster) - (48) - Feb. 4, 2009, 11:58:54 AM EST

But with gas, don't we *need* different formulations? - (drook) - (8) - Feb. 4, 2009, 12:25:31 PM EST

That's what I'm saying - (beepster) - (7) - Feb. 4, 2009, 07:52:16 PM EST

Okay - (drook) - (6) - Feb. 4, 2009, 10:21:41 PM EST

sigh - (beepster) - (4) - Feb. 5, 2009, 02:01:06 AM EST

Not invention, logical extension -NT - (drook) - (3) - Feb. 5, 2009, 08:50:26 AM EST

Who's logic? - (beepster) - (2) - Feb. 5, 2009, 04:40:22 PM EST

Power comes from the # of dollars, not the margins. - (Another Scott) - (1) - Feb. 5, 2009, 06:02:50 PM EST

I don't think so - (beepster) - Feb. 6, 2009, 08:23:25 AM EST

part of the problem we had in atlanta was the lack of - (boxley) - Feb. 5, 2009, 09:23:08 AM EST

Didn't hear you harping on Bush for this, though. - (CRConrad) - (38) - Feb. 5, 2009, 04:00:11 AM EST

sigh redux -NT - (beepster) - (37) - Feb. 5, 2009, 07:21:28 AM EST

Yes, I guess sigh is all you can do - not having any answer. -NT - (CRConrad) - (36) - Feb. 6, 2009, 02:50:09 AM EST

Sure I have one - (beepster) - (35) - Feb. 6, 2009, 08:35:08 AM EST

Here's the problem with the way you present your agruments - (drook) - (34) - Feb. 6, 2009, 09:45:25 AM EST

But I think his point is... - (folkert) - Feb. 6, 2009, 09:51:37 AM EST

Bwah ha ha ha - (beepster) - (32) - Feb. 6, 2009, 10:18:32 AM EST

You're conflating things again... - (Another Scott) - (9) - Feb. 6, 2009, 11:45:10 AM EST

Am I. - (beepster) - (8) - Feb. 6, 2009, 05:54:01 PM EST

the stimulus to you and I was not a mistake - (boxley) - Feb. 6, 2009, 06:31:24 PM EST

Black or white, again ... strawman much? - (drook) - (5) - Feb. 6, 2009, 07:54:06 PM EST

Excuse me? - (beepster) - (4) - Feb. 6, 2009, 08:15:03 PM EST

What did you mean by strings, then? - (drook) - (3) - Feb. 6, 2009, 09:18:54 PM EST

Your point? - (beepster) - (2) - Feb. 6, 2009, 10:34:27 PM EST

Thought it was obvious, but okay - (drook) - (1) - Feb. 6, 2009, 10:58:45 PM EST

Block grants happen all the time - (beepster) - Feb. 6, 2009, 11:14:29 PM EST

Year by year, you sound more and more like... - (CRConrad) - April 22, 2009, 08:03:14 AM EDT

That's not a problem with government per se - (jake123) - (2) - Feb. 6, 2009, 11:46:06 AM EST

Double edge on healthcare. - (beepster) - (1) - Feb. 6, 2009, 05:58:18 PM EST

get rid of the last 8 months of life would slice our - (boxley) - Feb. 6, 2009, 06:33:19 PM EST

Wait, Greg was right, that *is* your point? - (drook) - (18) - Feb. 6, 2009, 12:14:37 PM EST

Can't or won't? - (beepster) - (17) - Feb. 6, 2009, 06:10:28 PM EST

Right - (drook) - (16) - Feb. 6, 2009, 07:58:55 PM EST

Sure I do. - (beepster) - (15) - Feb. 6, 2009, 08:19:47 PM EST

Repairing the National Mall is infrastructure... - (Another Scott) - (13) - Feb. 6, 2009, 08:31:33 PM EST

Re: Repairing the National Mall is infrastructure... - (beepster) - (12) - Feb. 6, 2009, 10:38:34 PM EST

Some of them screamed about everything, at various points. - (Another Scott) - (11) - Feb. 6, 2009, 10:51:12 PM EST

His plan was garbage too - (beepster) - (10) - Feb. 6, 2009, 11:18:42 PM EST

You're not paying attention. See HR 1 preamble text again. -NT - (Another Scott) - (9) - Feb. 6, 2009, 11:22:04 PM EST

Re: You're not paying attention. See HR 1 preamble text aga - (beepster) - (8) - Feb. 7, 2009, 10:13:52 AM EST

Eh? - (Another Scott) - (7) - Feb. 7, 2009, 11:03:04 AM EST

75% spend within 18 months. - (beepster) - (6) - Feb. 7, 2009, 12:30:28 PM EST

More words, please. - (Another Scott) - (5) - Feb. 7, 2009, 12:51:07 PM EST

Re: More words, please. - (beepster) - (4) - Feb. 7, 2009, 01:11:04 PM EST

:-) -NT - (boxley) - Feb. 7, 2009, 03:04:56 PM EST

That's a number proposed by a citizen on a web page. - (Another Scott) - (2) - Feb. 7, 2009, 03:32:26 PM EST

Thanks for weasel wording for him. -NT - (beepster) - (1) - Feb. 7, 2009, 05:07:02 PM EST

Thought the weasel was the Patron Saint of Reactionaries :-0 -NT - (Ashton) - Feb. 7, 2009, 07:10:22 PM EST

Right, again - (drook) - Feb. 6, 2009, 09:22:18 PM EST

Now, now -- it's hard to be an Ayn-Marxist - (Ashton) - Feb. 4, 2009, 05:08:27 PM EST

There should be a number of gasoline mixes . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (6) - Jan. 27, 2009, 11:13:35 PM EST

and grousing from buyers - (beepster) - Jan. 27, 2009, 11:43:16 PM EST

You're talking about practical reasons for different mixes. - (static) - Jan. 28, 2009, 01:08:00 AM EST

hows that groundwater poisoning working out? -NT - (boxley) - (3) - Jan. 28, 2009, 08:55:26 AM EST

Stupidity re chemistry goes with general dumbth. Move, then? -NT - (Ashton) - (2) - Jan. 28, 2009, 05:20:53 PM EST

dont let science and mtbe get in your way -NT - (boxley) - (1) - Jan. 28, 2009, 08:35:56 PM EST

Don't let snide intransigence get in yours :-0 -NT - (Ashton) - Jan. 30, 2009, 03:21:08 PM EST

You're aware that the "boutique" fuel problem was addressed? - (Another Scott) - (2) - Feb. 4, 2009, 10:54:09 PM EST

That can't be true - (drook) - (1) - Feb. 4, 2009, 11:29:07 PM EST

and... *AND* - (folkert) - Feb. 4, 2009, 11:57:38 PM EST

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