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Post #227,872
by boxley
10/3/05 8:43:52 PM
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New my what a giant code word in your eye
I have said many times that the teaching of evolution should take place in the public schools, I was not talking about evolution at all, I am very comfortable with that theory. when I speak about secular humanism I am speaking about When I say "secular humanism", I'm referring to a specific philosophy of tolerance forced down a student's throat regardless of common sense or prevailing science like recycling. Perhaps a deep draught of read me in my posts is in order :-)
thanx,
bill
"the reason people don't buy conspiracy theories is that they think conspiracy means everyone is on the same program. Thats not how it works. Everybody has a different program. They just all want the same guy dead. Socrates was a gadfly, but I bet he took time out to screw somebodies wife" Gus Vitelli

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Post #227,879
by ben_tilly
10/3/05 9:01:34 PM
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New Sorry...
I just googled for the phrase and ran across a number of Creationist sites ranting about secular humanism and really talking about evolution. Then jumped to a wrong conclusion.

As I said, I'm fine with not teaching secular humanism. I'm even mildly in support of that.

Cheers,
Ben
I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
     Vatican 'to ban new gay priests' - (warmachine) - (57) - Sept. 23, 2005, 08:07:23 PM EDT
         Little difference . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (1) - Sept. 23, 2005, 08:17:29 PM EDT
             'Damn you, jams! You said honor wasn't LIKE pie!' -NT - (Ashton) - Sept. 23, 2005, 10:12:17 PM EDT
         A simple ploy to shift blame from priests to gay people. -NT - (Meerkat) - (1) - Sept. 24, 2005, 10:06:04 PM EDT
             exactly pedophiles attack both sexes - (boxley) - Sept. 24, 2005, 10:57:19 PM EDT
         ObLRPD: Relax... you're quite safe here. -NT - (admin) - (10) - Sept. 25, 2005, 10:57:23 PM EDT
             To be in England, in the summertime... close to the edge. -NT - (Ashton) - (9) - Sept. 26, 2005, 03:33:04 AM EDT
                 The next steps I'm real fuzzy on. -NT - (Meerkat) - (8) - Sept. 27, 2005, 08:17:13 AM EDT
                     Yeah, *that's* a perfectly valid reason... -NT - (admin) - (7) - Sept. 27, 2005, 08:22:11 AM EDT
                         Must have been the broomberg effect. -NT - (a6l6e6x) - (6) - Sept. 27, 2005, 08:41:54 AM EDT
                             None of that ersatz churning someother dairies get away with -NT - (Ashton) - (5) - Sept. 27, 2005, 04:12:15 PM EDT
                                 You tread on my patience -NT - (jb4) - (4) - Sept. 27, 2005, 05:26:12 PM EDT
                                     Fun is fun to have. -NT - (Ashton) - (3) - Sept. 27, 2005, 06:46:52 PM EDT
                                         Interstate Face Stab -NT - (inthane-chan) - Sept. 27, 2005, 07:11:08 PM EDT
                                         You don't get syphilis that way. -NT - (Meerkat) - (1) - Sept. 30, 2005, 08:51:44 AM EDT
                                             In case of the cool beverage, the insulative effect - (Ashton) - Sept. 30, 2005, 08:29:52 PM EDT
         Comments from an insider - (ubernostrum) - (41) - Sept. 30, 2005, 12:50:27 AM EDT
             I don't know about 'fashionable' - (Ashton) - (39) - Sept. 30, 2005, 01:07:37 AM EDT
                 G.K. Chesterton: - (ubernostrum) - (38) - Sept. 30, 2005, 09:46:30 AM EDT
                     Yes, it is a silly place we inhabit - (Ashton) - Sept. 30, 2005, 08:43:54 PM EDT
                     So much for the Age of Enlightenment - (warmachine) - (34) - Oct. 1, 2005, 07:39:03 AM EDT
                         Best model for this behaviour I've heard - (Ashton) - Oct. 1, 2005, 10:32:31 PM EDT
                         No... - (ubernostrum) - (32) - Oct. 2, 2005, 07:23:29 PM EDT
                             I guess religion is doomed then. (Sorry.) -NT - (Another Scott) - (1) - Oct. 2, 2005, 07:33:59 PM EDT
                                 Well. - (ubernostrum) - Oct. 2, 2005, 08:58:53 PM EDT
                             The quotation mentions the church, not god. - (warmachine) - (20) - Oct. 2, 2005, 08:46:05 PM EDT
                                 The quotation says - (ubernostrum) - (19) - Oct. 2, 2005, 08:53:33 PM EDT
                                     Read it again. Still mentions church, not god. - (warmachine) - (18) - Oct. 3, 2005, 02:35:05 AM EDT
                                         Nothing whatsoever to do with moral guidance - (ubernostrum) - (17) - Oct. 3, 2005, 02:50:33 AM EDT
                                             A reasonable argument if only one religion existed - (warmachine) - (16) - Oct. 3, 2005, 03:18:35 AM EDT
                                                 so humanism is a religion? Even the secular branch? - (boxley) - (8) - Oct. 3, 2005, 08:13:15 AM EDT
                                                     Fulfils the same functions without the supernatural ****. - (warmachine) - Oct. 3, 2005, 08:18:20 AM EDT
                                                     Who has denied it? - (ben_tilly) - (6) - Oct. 3, 2005, 04:29:54 PM EDT
                                                         those that practice it in the classroom deny its a religion -NT - (boxley) - (5) - Oct. 3, 2005, 04:35:53 PM EDT
                                                             Which of *us* does that? - (ben_tilly) - (4) - Oct. 3, 2005, 04:54:32 PM EDT
                                                                 one of you, as in one of you secular humanists - (boxley) - (3) - Oct. 3, 2005, 05:07:45 PM EDT
                                                                     Interesting use of code words there - (ben_tilly) - (2) - Oct. 3, 2005, 05:35:15 PM EDT
                                                                         my what a giant code word in your eye - (boxley) - (1) - Oct. 3, 2005, 08:43:52 PM EDT
                                                                             Sorry... - (ben_tilly) - Oct. 3, 2005, 09:01:34 PM EDT
                                                 Ah, so you're taking it as a dilemma - (ubernostrum) - (6) - Oct. 3, 2005, 12:41:44 PM EDT
                                                     Wot, no philosophies that aren't to blame? - (warmachine) - (5) - Oct. 3, 2005, 01:54:24 PM EDT
                                                         OK, seriously. - (ubernostrum) - (4) - Oct. 3, 2005, 04:55:49 PM EDT
                                                             The church was not strengthened, it was weakened less. - (warmachine) - (3) - Oct. 3, 2005, 05:39:42 PM EDT
                                                                 I see. - (ubernostrum) - (2) - Oct. 3, 2005, 11:58:46 PM EDT
                                                                     More illustrative example - (warmachine) - (1) - Oct. 4, 2005, 02:57:28 AM EDT
                                                                         You still don't get it. - (ubernostrum) - Oct. 4, 2005, 03:33:43 AM EDT
                             Skip this...go to next post. Goofed! -NT - (imqwerky) - Oct. 3, 2005, 12:30:23 AM EDT
                             Original Sin: "I poked a badger with a spoon!" - (imqwerky) - (7) - Oct. 3, 2005, 12:29:22 AM EDT
                                 Eating of the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge, - (Andrew Grygus) - (1) - Oct. 3, 2005, 12:44:41 AM EDT
                                     Dunno about that 'Celebration' - (Ashton) - Oct. 3, 2005, 06:28:37 AM EDT
                                 Yes, he'd have retrofitted nastier DNA changes. - (warmachine) - (4) - Oct. 3, 2005, 02:52:44 AM EDT
                                     you still have no understanding of Job - (boxley) - (3) - Oct. 3, 2005, 08:19:11 AM EDT
                                         "About" "What" "Really" "Happened" sez it all; it's a FABLE! -NT - (Ashton) - (2) - Oct. 3, 2005, 05:59:27 PM EDT
                                             that much sex and violence? prolly fact based -NT - (boxley) - (1) - Oct. 3, 2005, 08:44:27 PM EDT
                                                 {chortle} - ya Got moi! -NT - (Ashton) - Oct. 3, 2005, 09:25:14 PM EDT
                     Let's look at a more complete excerpt. - (Another Scott) - (1) - Oct. 3, 2005, 06:14:54 PM EDT
                         But not complete-enough? - (Ashton) - Oct. 3, 2005, 09:49:46 PM EDT
             Shouldn't you write "It's a pack of lies!"? -NT - (warmachine) - Sept. 30, 2005, 02:38:33 AM EDT

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