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New Let's look at a more complete excerpt.
[link|http://www.dur.ac.uk/martin.ward/gkc/books/everlasting_man.html#intro|The Everlasting Man]:

The point of this book, in other words, is that the next best thing to being really inside Christendom is to be really outside it. And a particular point of it is that the popular critics of Christianity are not really outside it. They are on a debatable ground, in every sense of the term. They are doubtful in their very doubts. Their criticism has taken on a curious tone; as of a random and illiterate heckling. Thus they make current and anti-clerical cant as a sort of small-talk. They will complain of parsons dressing like parsons; as if we should be any more free if all the police who shadowed or collared us were plain clothes detectives. Or they will complain that a sermon cannot be interrupted, and call a pulpit a coward's castle; though they do not call an editor's office a coward's castle. It would be unjust both to journalists and priests; but it would be much truer of journalist. The clergyman appears in person and could easily be kicked as he came out of church; the journalist conceals even his name so that nobody can kick him. They write wild and pointless articles and letters in the press about why the churches are empty, without even going there to find out if they are empty, or which of them are empty. Their suggestions are more vapid and vacant than the most insipid curate in a three-act farce, and move us to comfort him after the manner of the curate in the Bab Ballads; 'Your mind is not so blank as that of Hopley Porter.' So we may truly say to the very feeblest cleric: 'Your mind is not so blank as that of Indignant Layman or Plain Man or Man in the Street, or any of your critics in the newspapers; for they have not the most shadowy notion of what they want themselves. Let alone of what you ought to give them.' They will suddenly turn round and revile the Church for not having prevented the War, which they themselves did not want to prevent; and which nobody had ever professed to be able to prevent, except some of that very school of progressive and cosmopolitan sceptics who are the chief enemies of the Church. It was the anti-clerical and agnostic world that was always prophesying the advent of universal peace; it is that world that was, or should have been, abashed and confounded by the advent of universal war. As for the general view that the Church was discredited by the War--they might as well say that the Ark was discredited by the Flood. When the world goes wrong, it proves rather that the Church is right. The Church is justified, not because her children do not sin, but because they do. But that marks their mood about the whole religious tradition they are in a state of reaction against it. It is well with the boy when he lives on his father's land; and well with him again when he is far enough from it to look back on it and see it as a whole. But these people have got into an intermediate state, have fallen into an intervening valley from which they can see neither the heights beyond them nor the heights behind. They cannot get out of the penumbra of Christian controversy. They cannot be Christians and they can not leave off being Anti-Christians. Their whole atmosphere is the atmosphere of a reaction: sulks, perversity, petty criticism. They still live in the shadow of the faith and have lost the light of the faith.


He's a bright guy, no doubt, but he seemed to be pretty good at building strawmen. At least in this introduction. I'll admit to not having read much more of him than this paragraph.

Cheers,
Scott.
New But not complete-enough?
~Sorta cute but, still begs a couple Big issues - not merely re the Catholic variants and their antagonists. Issues -

1) As to "effects of the countless duelling religio sects, contemporary and historical" - and the putatve effect their duelling has, in catalyzing the nuts within each one's Gaussian: to Act Violently to suppress / eliminate heretics / opposition / even Moderation itself.

2) More particularly: the tendency of a great many of these extant sects to use the phrase ... to believe the phrase ... thence to Believe!
[some variation of]

*MINE* (Ours!) is The One Truth, Set-in-Concrete For All Time ..and also, BTW -
[And, I assert that this most often: Is taken as inseparable corollary]

- all Others are not merely less-true or less-True: They. Are. Wrong.

I might add a 3) but it's too much work. It would be about the ignorant-hubris thus sanctimony of so much of what passes for 'religion' in 'the West' + the tolerated Delight in that ignorance of so much else that has been discovered:

all as manifest in the sorts of barely-religio- smarminess of the Usual Tee Vee suspects; then the rampant Godliness-on-sleeve of the present Trotskyites and their oozing Judgmental Righteousness cha cha cha

But I won't go into that. The first two shall have to suffice ;-)

     Vatican 'to ban new gay priests' - (warmachine) - (57)
         Little difference . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (1)
             'Damn you, jams! You said honor wasn't LIKE pie!' -NT - (Ashton)
         A simple ploy to shift blame from priests to gay people. -NT - (Meerkat) - (1)
             exactly pedophiles attack both sexes - (boxley)
         ObLRPD: Relax... you're quite safe here. -NT - (admin) - (10)
             To be in England, in the summertime... close to the edge. -NT - (Ashton) - (9)
                 The next steps I'm real fuzzy on. -NT - (Meerkat) - (8)
                     Yeah, *that's* a perfectly valid reason... -NT - (admin) - (7)
                         Must have been the broomberg effect. -NT - (a6l6e6x) - (6)
                             None of that ersatz churning someother dairies get away with -NT - (Ashton) - (5)
                                 You tread on my patience -NT - (jb4) - (4)
                                     Fun is fun to have. -NT - (Ashton) - (3)
                                         Interstate Face Stab -NT - (inthane-chan)
                                         You don't get syphilis that way. -NT - (Meerkat) - (1)
                                             In case of the cool beverage, the insulative effect - (Ashton)
         Comments from an insider - (ubernostrum) - (41)
             I don't know about 'fashionable' - (Ashton) - (39)
                 G.K. Chesterton: - (ubernostrum) - (38)
                     Yes, it is a silly place we inhabit - (Ashton)
                     So much for the Age of Enlightenment - (warmachine) - (34)
                         Best model for this behaviour I've heard - (Ashton)
                         No... - (ubernostrum) - (32)
                             I guess religion is doomed then. (Sorry.) -NT - (Another Scott) - (1)
                                 Well. - (ubernostrum)
                             The quotation mentions the church, not god. - (warmachine) - (20)
                                 The quotation says - (ubernostrum) - (19)
                                     Read it again. Still mentions church, not god. - (warmachine) - (18)
                                         Nothing whatsoever to do with moral guidance - (ubernostrum) - (17)
                                             A reasonable argument if only one religion existed - (warmachine) - (16)
                                                 so humanism is a religion? Even the secular branch? - (boxley) - (8)
                                                     Fulfils the same functions without the supernatural ****. - (warmachine)
                                                     Who has denied it? - (ben_tilly) - (6)
                                                         those that practice it in the classroom deny its a religion -NT - (boxley) - (5)
                                                             Which of *us* does that? - (ben_tilly) - (4)
                                                                 one of you, as in one of you secular humanists - (boxley) - (3)
                                                                     Interesting use of code words there - (ben_tilly) - (2)
                                                                         my what a giant code word in your eye - (boxley) - (1)
                                                                             Sorry... - (ben_tilly)
                                                 Ah, so you're taking it as a dilemma - (ubernostrum) - (6)
                                                     Wot, no philosophies that aren't to blame? - (warmachine) - (5)
                                                         OK, seriously. - (ubernostrum) - (4)
                                                             The church was not strengthened, it was weakened less. - (warmachine) - (3)
                                                                 I see. - (ubernostrum) - (2)
                                                                     More illustrative example - (warmachine) - (1)
                                                                         You still don't get it. - (ubernostrum)
                             Skip this...go to next post. Goofed! -NT - (imqwerky)
                             Original Sin: "I poked a badger with a spoon!" - (imqwerky) - (7)
                                 Eating of the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge, - (Andrew Grygus) - (1)
                                     Dunno about that 'Celebration' - (Ashton)
                                 Yes, he'd have retrofitted nastier DNA changes. - (warmachine) - (4)
                                     you still have no understanding of Job - (boxley) - (3)
                                         "About" "What" "Really" "Happened" sez it all; it's a FABLE! -NT - (Ashton) - (2)
                                             that much sex and violence? prolly fact based -NT - (boxley) - (1)
                                                 {chortle} - ya Got moi! -NT - (Ashton)
                     Let's look at a more complete excerpt. - (Another Scott) - (1)
                         But not complete-enough? - (Ashton)
             Shouldn't you write "It's a pack of lies!"? -NT - (warmachine)

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